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ONE PIECE 615 Spoiler ワンピース ネタバレ

2011 February 13

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ONE PIECE 615 Spoiler Summaries

Credits: Nuriko
Verification: Confirmed
Trans : Aohige_AP

第615話〝マトマトの呪い〟

扉絵

世界の甲板から「コルボ山」

ブルック「ちょっとちょっとルフィさん!!」

右大臣「おい待てメガロ!!」

「どこへ行くのだああああああ!!!!」

しらほし(お父様・・お兄様・・・お城の皆様お許しくださいませ・・)

(無断で外出致します!お夕食までには帰ります!!)

ルフィ「いくぞ散歩!!」

右大臣「何だというのだメガロ!」

「硬殻塔の扉を開け放って行くとは姫に何かあったら・・・」

「ガイコツ急げ姫の安全確認を!!」

ブルック「ちょっとホネ使いが荒いですよ!」

右大臣「!!?いなーーーーーーーい!!しらほし姫がいない!!!!」

ブルック「え!?人魚姫さんいないんですか!!?」

右大臣「おおお!!大変だ!!国家的一大事だ!一体いつ!何者の仕業だ!これは誘拐事件に他な らん!」

海賊「魚人島と竜宮城をつなぐ連絡廊・・・その開閉スイッチはどこにある・・・」

ブルック「え!?スイッチ!!?」

右大臣「ガイコツ!とにかくネプチューン様の下へ急げ!この事態をすぐに報告せねば!」

海賊「やるしかねぇんだおれ達は・・・・命令通り・・・ヤツらの言う事を聞く他・・・生き残る術がねぇ・・ 」

「早く教えろ・・・・」

「でなきゃ殺されちまうんだよ!!!」

ブルック「何の話ですかあああ!!?」

【魚人島「サンゴが丘」】

チョッパー「おいサンジ!!なんで結局兵士全員やっつけちゃうんだよー!」

サンジ「くっそー竜宮城へ行くチャンスだったのにコイツら手錠するなんて言い出すから・・」

チョッパー「みろ周りのやつらがおれ達を白い目で見てるぞ!深海魚のような白目で!」

サンジ「ガタガタいうな!やっちまったモンはしょうがねぇだろ!」

チョッパー「やっちまう前に考えろよ!」

サンジ「おめぇも半分やっちまったろ!カンフーで!!」

「アレ・・中々強かったな・・」

チョッパー「そ!そんな事言われても嬉しくねーぞコノヤロー」

キャー!!

海岸から血まみれの人が!!

お前確か魚人街の奴じゃないか!どうした!?

すぐに医者を!!!

チョッパー「ん?おれ医者だぞ!?」

サンジ「え!?ハチ!?」

「どうしたお前!!!」

はっちゃんの体に無数の矢が刺さって血まみれで倒れている

チョッパー「おいハチ!!なんだそのケガ!何があったんだよお!」

ハチ「・・・おお・・お前らか・・・会えてよかった・・麦わらはいるか・・?」

チョッパー「ここにはいねぇよ!ちょっと待ってろすぐ手当するから!」

ハチ「仲間達を集めろ・・急げ・・ハァ・・ハァ・・」

「お前ら・・もうこの島にかかわらねぇ方がいい・・魚人島をでろ・・・」

「今からこの島に新魚人海賊団が攻め込んでくる・・・」

「リュウグウ王国は崩壊するんだ・・・」

【数時間前 魚人街「ノア」】

デッケン「いいかホーディジョーンズの傘下の海賊達よ!お前達は幸せ者だ!この歴史的作戦の協力者となれる のだからな!」

海賊「バンダーデッケンってあのフライングダッチマン号の・・・!?」

デッケン「バホホホ!安心しろ!その子孫だ!ゴーストじゃねぇ」

「だがおれもまた呪われている」

「魚人にして泳げねぇ・・・おれがそのマトマトの呪いと共に引き受けた悪魔の力!見せておこう !」

ハチ「ホーディ!!!」

「ニューおまえら本気でやるのか!バカなマネはやめろ!」

ホーディ「ハチさん・・・」

ハチ「ESなんて身を滅ぼすだけの薬だ」

「魚人が魚人島を潰してどうする、大騎士ネプチューンを甘く見るな!」

ホーディ「ハチさん・・・勘弁してくれませんか・・・」

「もうアンタの意見は聞きたくねぇんだ、とてもおれの憧れたアーロン一味の幹部とは思えねぇ」

「アンタはフヌけちまった・・もう世代替えですよ・・・」

「人間達に思い知らる為には魚人島が必要でネプチューンは邪魔なんだ!」

「至高の種族が我らだってのはアンタらの教えだぜ!!?」

ハチ「だけどアーロンさんは負けた!デッケン!ヒョウゾウ!お前らまで何だ!当時アーロンさんの呼びかけに も応じなかったおめーらが!!」

「なんで今若ぇコイツらに手を貸してんだ!」

ヒョウゾウ「手を貸す?・・雇われたんだおれは金でなぁ」

「アーロンの奴は金離れが悪くおれを雇いきれなかった・・・」

「ガキのころからお前はおれに手も足もでなかった」

「お前止まりの剣士しか連れて行けなかったアーロンは気の毒だったなぁ」

デッケン「バホホホ!!アーロン一味のハチか!こりゃ懐かしい!」

「おめぇんとこの船長は当時このおれさえも手下にしようとしたんだバキャ言っちゃいけねぇ!」

「おれは人の下にはつかねぇ男よ!ホーディはその返をわかってる!!」

ホーディ「・・・アーロンさんには尊敬すべき野心と行動力があった・・だが同時に彼は粗暴で器用さに欠けて た」

「あんたらが海で暴れ回ってた頃おれ達は海賊になりたくても歳のたらねぇガキだった」

「その世代が成長した集まりだ・・・だから用意は周到前車の轍は踏まねぇ」

「おれはアーロン一味の意思を継ぐ男だ・・・その憧れの一味の元幹部が」

「このおれの計画に異論を唱えるなんて気が萎えるじゃないですか」

「くしくも今魚人島にはアンタの野望を打ち砕いた」

「麦わらのルフィってのが来てるってのに・・アンタは何ともおもわねぇのか?」

ハチ「あいつは元アーロン一味のおれに友達と言ってくれた・・・」

「命の恩人でもある!すぐに会いにいきてぇけど!!」

「アーロンの意思がここに生きている限りおれはあいつらに合わせる顔がねぇ!」

ホーディ「人間が友達なんてクソかネプチューンみてぇな事言いやがって」

「アンタにゃもう幻滅だよ」

デッケン「ロックオンだハチ・・・」

デッケンがハチに触れる

デッケン「バホホホ・・海賊の流儀を忘れちまったのか?」

「言いたいことがあるんなら暴力で解決しなきゃダメだぜ、のハズだ!!」

デッケンのナイフがハチに刺さる

ハチ「ぎゃあ!!」

デッケン「ついさっきおれがお前に触れた時からお前はおれの的になった」

「おれが何をどこへ飛ばそうともそれはまるで生きた鳥の様に」

「まっしぐらにお前という的を目指す」

「勿論それを防ぐ方法はいくつかある」

「試してみるがいい」

ハチ「よせ!そんなに矢を!!」

「おめーの能力なら噂で知ってる!おいホーディ!これじゃ死んじまう!」

「デッケンを止めてくれ!」

ホーディ「言ったでしょうハチさん」

「バンダーデッケンはおれの部下じゃねぇ」

「これは対等な海賊同盟なんです」

「第一、お前はもう目障りなんだよ!腰抜け野郎!!!」

ハチ「くそ!!!」

デッケン「そら!!いけ!!!!」

矢をはなつ

ハチが逃げる

デッケン「バホホホホホ!!いいぞ!逃げろ!逃げろ!だがどこまでも追撃するぞ!」

ハチ「くるなあ!くそお!水中でも関係ねぇのか!?」

「ぎゃあああああああああああ!!!!」

デッケン「バホホホ・・・メモリーできるの的は手のひらの数・・・二か所だ」

「10年前から洗ってもいねぇこの右手はリュウグウ王国王女しらほし姫本人に触れた時のメモリ ー」

「おわかりか!?おれの投げかける愛も凶器も!標的を地獄の底まで追い詰める!これがおれの能 力だ!」

ホーディ「さて人間の海賊達!デッケンの能力はよくわかったろう」

「そこで作戦の第一段階だ・・・」

「侵入不可能と言われる竜宮城だが・・・」

「10年間そこへ侵入物を投げ込み続けた男こそ・・・」

「あのバンダーデッケンだ!」

「つまりお前らが侵入物となりデッケンに投げられ・・竜宮城の人魚姫に向かって飛べ!」

「実際行きつく先は強固な塔の壁だが・・」

「そして内部から門を開きおれ達を迎え入れるのがお前らの任務」

海賊「バカな・・そんなことしたら・・おれ達その壁にぶつかって死んじまう!」

ホーディ「そうだとも」

「だからお前ら人間の軽い命を使うんだよ!!」

「お前らはここじゃ奴隷以下の価値だ!」

「ぶつかって生きてた奴が任務を果たせ!うまく行ったら自由の身にしてやろう!」

「任務を事態するなら今シャボンの外へ出してやる下等種族共!!」

【竜宮城北東「硬殻塔」への通路】

右大臣「急げガイコツ!王の元へ!」

海賊「待て・・通路を開かねぇとおれ達はホーディに殺される・・・」

右大臣「ネプチューン様!!!!!!!!」

「誘拐事件であります!!姫が何者かに連れ去られました!!」

ブルック「あと塔の方に海賊さんが降ってきまして!とにかく敵襲ですよ!!」

ネプチューン「誘拐じゃとおおお!!!しらほし・・!?どこの誰にじゃああああ!」

ゾロ「こんな時に敵襲か・・どうしろってんだ・・」

ウソップ「なんで今なんだ!おれ達も籠城中の敵襲だぞ!ど・・ど・・どうする!?いや!やっぱ答えなくてい い!」

ゾロ「斬ろう」

ウソップ「答えなくていいっつったろおおお!!」

場面かわり

ルフィ「もうサメから出てもいいんじゃねぇか?」

しらほし「い・・いえわたくしまだこの中の方が・・」

ルフィ「どうだ?10年降りの外!」

しらほし「ドキドキします・・わたくしとても悪いことを・・・」

ルフィ「悪いわけねぇだろ外に出るだけでよー変なやつだなお前ー」

しらほし「この様な事を・・冒険というのでしょうか?」

ルフィ「あはははうん・・・ドキドキするならそりゃ冒険だな」

「そんで海の森っつったか・・それなんだ?おもしれぇもんあるのか?」

しらほし「お墓です!建ってからまだ一度も訪れてないお墓があるんです・・・」

「10年間ずっと・・・一番行きたかった場所です・・・」

【深海〝海の森〟】

ジンベエ「もう10年か・・魚人島を騒然とさせた・・・」

「あの白昼の暗殺事件から・・・早いものだ・・・」

「王子達は今や屈強な戦士に成長された・・・・しらほし姫は未だ塔の中じゃが・・・」

「しかし皆あんたの理想を・・・忘れちゃあおりませんよ・・・・」
「オトヒメ王妃・・・!!!」

第615話終わり

Chapter 615: The curse of Target-target (Mato-mato)
cover story: From the deck of the world: Colbo Mountain

Brook: Hey, hey! Luffy-san!!
Right minister: Wait, Megalo!! Where are you going!?
SHirahoshi: (I’m sorry father, brother… forgive me everyon in the castle…!)
Luffy: Let’s go out for a stroll!!

Right minister: What is up with you, Megalo!? To leave the door to the princess wide open… what if something happens to the princess!?
Skeleton!! Hurry and check up on the princess!!
Brook: Gosh, you’re really whipping this ol’ bone to work!
right minister: She’s not HEEEEREE!!!! Princess Shirahoshi isn’t here!!!!
Brook: What!? The mermaid princess is missing?
right minister: This is a crisis!! A national crisis!! Who did this and when!? This has to be a kidnapping!!

Pirates: The corridor connecting Fishman Island and the Ryuugu Palace… where’s the opening switch for it…
Brook: Huh? Switch?
Right minster: Skeleton!! Hurry to your majesty Neptune!! We must report this immediately!!
Pirates: We have to do it… as they say…. The only way for us to live is to listen to them…
Hurry, tell us…. if you don’t, they’ll kill us!!!
Brook: What are you talking about!?

Fishman Island Coral Hill (Sango hill)
Chopper: Hey Sanji!! Why did you beat up all the soldiers!?
Sanji: Damn, that was a great chance to go to Ryuugu Palace… but they said they’re gonna cuff me…
Chopper: Look at everyone staring us in doubt!! Their eyes look like deep sea fishes!!
(In Japanese, disgusted eyes is expressed as “white eyes”, he says their eyes are so white they look like deep sea fish’s)
Sanji: Shut it!! What’s done is done!
Chopper: Well THINK before you DO!
Sanji: Look, you took out half of them!! With Kung-fu! That was… pretty strong.
Chopper: Oh… damn you, I’m not happy for that comment!! (Chopper’s old happy line)

Citizen: Kyaaa!! A bloodied man from the shore!!
Hey, you’re from the fishman island… what happened!? Get us a doctor!
Chopper: Huh? Hey, I’m a doctor!
Sanji: Huh!? Hachi!!! What happened to you!!

Hacchan is found lying on the ground with countless arrows on his body
Chopper: Hey Hachi!! What’s with that injury!!!

Hachi: Oh… it’s you guys, good to see you… is Straw Hat here….?
Chopper: He’s not here right now!! Wait a sec, I’ll treat you!
Hachi: Gather your crew.. hurry…… you guys shouldn’t get involved with this island anymore… leave Fishman Island…
Soon the New Fishman Pirates are going to invade this land….
The kingdom of Ryuugu is going to collapse….

Few hours ago in the Fishman town of Noa

Decken: Listen up, pirates under Hodi Jones!! You are lucky ones!! You’ll be able to assisst us in this history defining operation!!
Pirate: The Vander Decken, from the Flying Duchman!?
Decken: Bahohohoho!! The decendant of!! I’m no ghost!!
However, I’m cursed as well….
Although I’m a fishman, I can’t swim…. the power of the devil I gained in return from the curse of Mato-mato!! Have a look at its power!!

Hachi: Hodi!!
Hodi: Hachi-san….
Hachi: The drug ES will do nothing but destroy you…!
What’s the use of fishmen destroying fishman island!! Don’t underestimate the Great Knight Neptune!!

Hodi: Hachi-san…. please, leave us alone…
We don’t want to listen to you anymore… I can’t believe you’re a lieutenant of Arlong Pirates I looked up to…!!
You’ve gone soft…. it’s time for a new generation to step in…!
For the humans to know their place, We need Fishman Island, and Neptune is in our way!
You guys are the ones that taught us that we’re the superior race!!

Hachi: But Arlong lost!! Decken! Hyozou!! What’s up with you guys!?
You guys didn’t heed the call of Arlong back then!! Why are you lending hand to these young ones!?

Hyozou: Lend hand….? I was hired. With money.
Arlong was too tight with his wallet, and couldn’t keep me around…
Since you were a child, you didn’t stand a chance at me.
I feel sorry for Arlong that he couldn’t bring with him a better swordsman than you.

Decken: Bahohoho!! Hachi of the Arlong pirates!? Haven’t seen you in a while!
Your captain tried to make me his underling, you gotta be kidding me!
I don’t work under anyone!! Hodi understands that!

Hodi: Arlong-san had ambition and decisiveness I looked up to..!!
But he was unruly and lacked the sophistication…
When you guys were out there wrecking havoc in the seas, we were too young to be pirates despite our wish..!!
That generation has grown into this crowd… that’s why we’re prepared! We won’t make the same mistake!
I inherit Arlong Pirates’ will…. And to have one of the lieutenant of that pirate object to my plans, that’s very disheartening
And by coincidence, the very man who crushed that dream, Straw Hat Luffy, is here on this island… do you not feel anything about that?

Hachi: He told me I’m his friend, a former Arlong Pirate… and he saved my life!! I want to see him right away!!
But as long as Arlong’s will lives on here, I can’t show myself to him!!
Hodi: Humans as friends? You sound like that damn Neptune!! You disgust me.
Decken: Locked on, Hachi.

Decken touches Hachi

Decken: Bahohoho!! Have you forgotten the ways of piracy?
If you want to make a point… do it with violence!! I think.

Hachi is stabbed by Decken’s knife

Hachi: Gyaaa!
Decken: I touched you, now you’re my target. No matter what I fling at any direction, like a living bird it will home in to you, the target.
Of course there are ways to stop them. Try them out.

Hachi: No stop!! Not that many arrows!!!
I’ve heatd of your powers…!! Hey Hodi, he’s gonna kill me!! Stop Decken!

Hodi: Didn’t I say it, Hachi-san? Vander Decken isn’t working under me. We’re in a pirate alliance.
Besides, you’re but an annoyance now!! Coward!!

Hachi: Damn it!!

Decken: There!! Go!!!

He sends the arrows flying
Hachi runs

Decken: Bahohoho!! Go ahead, run! Run!! But they will chase you anywhere!!
Hachi: Stop!!! Damn, they come even under water!? Gyaaaaa!!!

Decken: Bahohoho… the targets I can memorize are limited to two… the same number as palm of my hand
This right hand I haven’t even washed in ten years…. memorized Princess Shirahoshi.
Do you understand? The weapon, the love, whatever I throw!! Will chase after my target to the depth of hell!! This is my power!!

Hodi: Alright humans!! You understand Decken’s power now?
So here’s the first part of the plan…. The Ryuugu Palace is known to be inpenetrable…
But the man who kept throwing objects penetrating its defence for ten years… is this man Vander Decken!
So… you’ll become the penetrating weapons and be thrown by Decken… and fly towards the Mermaid Princess!
Where you will actually land is a hard wall of the tower….
Then you’ll open the gates from inside, and let us in! That is your mission!
Pirate: Ridiculous…. we’d die hitting that wall!
Hodi: Of course you will. That’s why we’re going to use you humans, with your expendable lives!!
You are worth less than slaves here!!
Those who lived after hitting the wall, complete your mission!! If all goes well, we’ll let you free!
If you wish to decline the mission, I’ll throw you all out of this bubble!! Worthless inferior race!!

Ryuugu Palace North-East, the passage to Hardshell Tower

Right minister: Hurry skeleton! To the king!
Pirates: Wait.. if you don’t open the passage, we’ll be killed by Hodi…
Right minister: King Neptune!!! It’s a kidnapping case!! The princes has been abducted!!
Brook: And there are pirates raining down on the tower!! We’re under attack!!
Neptune: Kidnap!!!? Shirahoshi!! Who did this!!!
Zoro: Invasion at time like this…? What are we to do…?
Usopp: Why NOW! We’re holed up here in the palace too!! Wh-what should we do!? No wait don’t answer that.
Zoro: Let’s slice them up.
Usopp: I SAID DON’T ANSWER IT!!

Scene changes

Luffy: Don’t you think you can come out of the shark now?
Shirahoshi: N… no, I’d rather stay inside yet…
Luffy: How is it? The first time outside in ten years!
Shirahoshi: My heart is thumping… I’m doing something terrible…
Luffy: No you’re not, you’re just going outside! You’re weird…
Shirahoshi: Is this what they call… adventure?
Luffy: Hahahaha, yeah I guess, if your heart is thumping, that must be adventure.
And you said Forest of Sea? What is that? Is there something interesting there?
Shirahoshi: It’s a graveyard!! There’s a grave I haven’t been able to visit ever since it was made…
For ten years, I’ve always wanted to go there…

Deep Sea: Forest of Sea

Jinbe: It’s been ten years…. since the incident that rocked the Fishman Island…
The assassination in mid daylight… time goes by fast.
The princes’ have all grown to be strong warriors… But Princess Shirahoshi is still in the tower…
But none of us have forgotten your ideals….

Queen Otohime!!

Trivia: The “Fencing style” used by Brook is an unnamed form of swordsmanship that resembles classical fencing. Brook’s signature attack as of yet is known as 鼻唄三丁:矢筈斬り, “Hanauta Sanchou: Yahazu Giri”, loosely translated into “Three-Verse Humming: Arrow-Notch Slice”. The attack is the fastest cutting technique of his kingdom’s assault squad.

1,335 Responses to “ONE PIECE 615 Spoiler ワンピース ネタバレ”

  1. Mugiwara - February 18, 2011 at 2:58 am #

    i wonder wat happened to jinbei’s crew? since he’s at the forest of the sea alone. maybe he lost his crew or left to be part of the strawhat crew? yes yes i know many people will respond saying enough with this jinbei as next crew member but im just guessing based on these facts. but in my opinion i dont think a new crew member will come in this arc because i cant see any of the people introduced as part of the crew, except jinbei. so rely i think we’ll get a new member when the crew is in the new world.

    • Yohohoho - February 18, 2011 at 3:11 am #

      I am not against your guess on Jimbei joining the SH. It would be actually cool.

      But Jimbei left his crew a long time ago, before he even met luufy. The crew maybe the Old fishmen pirates or he may have never assemble a crew in the first place. Seeing how he use to be a shikibukai and noone came to help him.

      I maybe wrong.

      • Mugiwara - February 18, 2011 at 3:17 am #

        well he left with all the fishman pirates so it would be natural they would join a crew. http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/609/7
        but then again i could also be wrong cuz they all coulda just left and went there own ways.
        but like i said i right now the only new crew member i could see right now is jinbei, other wise i think the new crew member will come in the new world

      • Yohohoho - February 18, 2011 at 3:22 am #

        O dam. I missed that. So other fishmen left with Jimbei.

        Ok maybe.

    • sirArde - February 18, 2011 at 3:41 am #

      i think hes not alone..maybe the grave of the queen is in the sacred place of the forest sea. maybe the other fishmen is in the camp near the grave.
      so only jinbe is the only one being shown.

  2. monkeyDdragon - February 18, 2011 at 3:27 am #

    hope that it will an epic battle

    • sirArde - February 18, 2011 at 3:50 am #

      Yeah it will be..beacuse it is OP.
      im against to them saying that caribou is the only villain.
      and it all will be fixed by Hodi & Decken understand that not all the humans were bad.
      what about the prediction’s of Madame..it wasn’t just a fluke..
      it was true that FI will be destroyed. so there was a huge battle..
      it wasn’t just between caribou and luffy and the FI will be destroyed.
      wew..think about it guys!
      it is OnePiece a lot of conflicts in the story. it won’t be settle like that.

      • Perverted Imp--Kram - February 18, 2011 at 3:55 am #

        i do agree …hahahah….just like what happen in the marine ford…^^

      • MDL - February 19, 2011 at 12:17 am #

        your really thinking caribou is strong enough to be fighting against luffy and destroying the “WHOLE” FI..?

        maybe destroy couple of houses.. but not the whole FI island..

  3. hapontukin - February 18, 2011 at 4:12 am #

    poor HACHI he always gets beat up

  4. Luffy Critic - February 18, 2011 at 7:34 am #

    Caribou has a bounty higher than zoro. But it doesn,t necessarily mean that he is stronger than zoro(maybe before the time skip) But who knows, he wont have that high bounty for nothing.

    • Rayleigh - February 18, 2011 at 11:32 am #

      Goverment count the bounty from people’s threat to the goverment….not from their strength…….as example is Nico Robin….even as a child…..her bounty is high because she can read ancient text……..

      And this goes for Caribou too…..he is Marine killer……..maybe he kills more Marine than all of StrawHat’s….

      • Luffy Critic - February 18, 2011 at 12:14 pm #

        Correct, that’s why i said it doesn’t necessarily meant.

      • lol - February 19, 2011 at 5:33 am #

        no straw hat didnt kill any marine..maybe the only one is akainu..only if luffy hold his grudge for what akainu was done..

    • mRp - February 18, 2011 at 4:45 pm #

      i dont know about that but 220m bounty its kinda low in the state Luffy,Zorro,Sanji are right now i think they can take down any 300m bounty pirate.

    • MDL - February 19, 2011 at 12:15 am #

      caribou is just a murderer..

      thats why he got a high bounty.. he might of killed a lot of innocent people…

      i think one of the super novas was brutal too thats why he got a high bounty…

      think it was kid.

      but luffy got a high bounty cuz he breaks down hella marine base…

    • Reese - February 19, 2011 at 3:34 pm #

      uhh zoro’s bounty is 140 million. while cariboo is like 128?

      • Monkey D Dragon - February 19, 2011 at 6:40 pm #

        Nope you’re wrong its 160 and 220 but after this arc i think the bounties of the strawhats will rise again because they have reappeared and stronger then ever

      • MDL - February 19, 2011 at 7:37 pm #

        @monkey d dragon…

        they havent really done anything… except destroyed 2 of the kuma’s copy.

        and they wont rise after the FI unless the WG gets involved… and see the fishman get really destroyed by the SH

  5. monkey d. munyit - February 18, 2011 at 8:14 am #

    im 1st for the chapter 616!!! yeahhhh!! loser..

  6. Sakanade - February 18, 2011 at 8:25 am #

    How the hell did the princess hide inside that shark!?

    • monkeyDdragon - February 18, 2011 at 9:06 am #

      maybe the shark has a big enough mouth that the princess can be fitted………….

  7. Jaksmania - February 18, 2011 at 11:01 am #

    I still cant figure out y Jimbei ask Luffy dun fight Hodi, is it possible Hodi is Jimbei’s son? since he inherit the Fishman Pirate.

    I agreed with some ppl that Carribou will be the main villain here, He’s strong (a logia user) and smart (prefer to be a hostage on board since he knew it will be pointless to fight SHs team alone).

    One more thing about the fortune teller, we stll not sure which side shes in, shes might the antagonist also in this arc, said to everyone that luffy will destroy FI, since shes already see that Luffy will save Ryugu Kingdom & FI. So she hopes, everyone will not trust Luffy’s team anymore even the kingdom itself. She might be the one who killed the queen also or make/kick Jinbei out from FI

    • one piece - February 18, 2011 at 11:21 am #

      good one

    • Rayleigh - February 18, 2011 at 11:38 am #

      Because Jinbei know how strong Luffy and Hodi are…..he know that if they have fight in FI…..FI will be destroyed…..

      • Jaksmania - February 18, 2011 at 11:52 am #

        In the first place, Jinbei should knew already that Hodi is a dangerous figure for FI, with or w/o fighting Luffy, Hodi already destroying FI in the long term by his rebellion and humans.

        My point is why he’s not stop this Hodi or partner with Luffy when Luffy comes to FI, instead of ask Luffy leave FI and dun fight Hodi.

        There’s something good behind Hodi background, that wise character like Jimbei let Hodi exist in FI and let himself be an outcast from Fisherman Island.

      • Jaksmania - February 18, 2011 at 11:54 am #

        rebellion and hating humans (mistypo)

    • MDL - February 19, 2011 at 12:12 am #

      i think we already talked about the father and son thing.

      but you think caribou will be the main villain??

      ye hes logia and all but hes nothing compare to luffy…

      he might be the last person the SH will be chasing after they beat hodi/vander cuz caribou took hella mermaids…

  8. one piece - February 18, 2011 at 11:23 am #

    chopper might be able to help hachi, i think he will save him

  9. zero_ichi - February 18, 2011 at 2:54 pm #

    with all complicated political situation in FI, i’m almost certain that jinbei will never be SH’s crew. he will be an allies for luffy. jimbei will stay in FI after Hodi and Vanderdecken defeated and re-established FI after total destruction. [jinbei(knight of the sea) is similar to Ganfor (knight of the sky)

    but now i’m affraid Hachi might become the new crew member.

    • MDL - February 19, 2011 at 12:08 am #

      hachi is dying right now..well not literly dying but fucked up so he wont be joining the crew… when the crew leaves he’ll be on hes cruches saying good bye

      • zero_ichi - February 19, 2011 at 1:19 am #

        all of us want to see SH development after time skip. so its time for chopper to show his medical skill after 2 years study, even dying man could easily recover with dr.chopper’s help.

  10. bj - February 18, 2011 at 3:00 pm #

    hachi has turned into a bitch why does he underestimate the strawhat crew so much…he wants them to run away and maybe becuz it isnt their fight but he should realize he is wasting his words..luffy didnt hesitate to hit a tenryubito so what does hachi think luffy will do to vander dekken and hodi? its far too late to be tellin them to run..luffy is gna go berserk when he finds out what they did to hachi…

    • mRp - February 18, 2011 at 5:00 pm #

      Im very excited to see the three monster trio fight , I wanna see Luffy go Haki on Hodi, or to see a pirate ship cut down in one hit from Zorro , or to see a brutal kick from Sanji.The battle will be Luffy-Hodi, Zorro-Hyozu(dont know how it spells)and Decken-Sanji (the fight of Love).:d:))=))

      • bleach-has-become-gay - February 18, 2011 at 5:31 pm #

        actual im gona be happier to see the ovas transformation over the past 2 years

      • ozneit - February 19, 2011 at 12:04 am #

        3 monster trios..

        1 monster trio is luffy-zorro-sanji..

        the other 2 trio are?

      • MDL - February 19, 2011 at 12:06 am #

        i just wanna see the anime… after the 2 year time skip…

        i wanna see sanji’s blue walk

  11. nick - February 18, 2011 at 5:20 pm #

    I don’t think luffy will go crazy over hachi the reason he went berserk last time it’s because it happened in front of it’s eyes, if hatchi die that’s another story.

  12. idon'tknow - February 18, 2011 at 5:45 pm #

    new crew member will be from CP9

  13. kakashi - February 18, 2011 at 6:13 pm #

    GUYS I HAVE ANOTHER MIND BVLOWING THEORY LIKE THE TWO FAMOUS ONES I HAVE ALREADY SPREAD LIKE VIRUS – NAMELY THAT SABOO=KAIDO AND TOBI=OBITO. I THINK HACHI IS ITACHI. SEE??? THIS ONE IS EVEN MORE MIND BLOWING BECAUSE I HAVE CROSSED MANGAS!!!

    NOW OF COURWSE I HAVE HUNDREDS OF PROOF…. BUT I DONT NEED THAT DO I?? MYLOYAL FOLLOWERD OF THE OTHER THEORIES WILL DEFINITELY FOLLWO THIS ONE AS WELL AND MAKE UP THEIR OWN EVIDENCE!

    VIVA ONEPIECE AND NARUTO.

    • Naruto D Ichigo - February 18, 2011 at 7:18 pm #

      Well said brotha!!!
      lol Sarcasm at it’s best.
      Kakashi sure is a smooth talker!!!

      • strawhat pirate10 - February 18, 2011 at 9:45 pm #

        ok i know some people get tirewd of hearing about the next crew member but this is wat i think Hodi will be the next crew member

        this is y i think that Oda said it was going to be a enemy and it has never been dun since he is the boss ok this is wats going to happen while Luffy and Hodi fighting Hodi go start talking bout how humans are inferior and they going to show hie background (like all members) and after Luffy beat Hodi up ha going to be banished from the kingdom and Luffy go develope a liking to him so Luffy go ask him to be part of thr crew at first he going to refuse (like most charcters) but soon hegoing to say yea

        an thank about this his fighting style will be unique and his personality

    • kakashi - February 18, 2011 at 11:18 pm #

      hahah… thanks Naruto D Ichigo. 8| on the name! :P

    • Rayleigh - February 19, 2011 at 3:21 am #

      Well….if Tobi=Obito….i agree about that….but if Kaido=Sabo…..it’s totally impossible…..haha

      • Hm... - February 19, 2011 at 10:09 am #

        U gotta be kitten me?!

      • kakashi - February 19, 2011 at 8:32 pm #

        @Rayleigh… i cant tell if u r being sarcastic or wat?? do u honestly believe tobi=obito??? come on!

      • Rayleigh - February 20, 2011 at 6:26 am #

        Hahaha…easy guys…..even it’s little….it’s have possibility that Tobi=Obito……..look at Sasuke…he is stronger than Kakashi now because Sasuke is an original Uchiha and Kakashi lacks of training, what he do just reading a pervert book….beside….Tobi at the same age as Kakashi…..he is an Uchiha too. Why not he is stronger than Sasuke ?? If he training as hard as Sasuke…..it possible….

        and why Tobi just use his right eye ?? Can you explain ??

      • kakashi - February 20, 2011 at 8:17 pm #

        yes… but remember the Naruto birth flashback??? there we see kakashi is having sharingan already…
        http://www.mangareader.net/93-55464-3/naruto/chapter-502.html

        if tobi was indeed obito, how come he was a full blown adult wen he fought Yondaime? i may concede that tobi might have had zetsu steal obito’s other eye, but how come a lame ass character like obito becomes so insanely powerful?? it wud be a much better story if it were just Madara and there was even no other surprise.

        just saying… anyway we are in OP thread hehe.

      • Rayleigh - February 20, 2011 at 8:45 pm #

        Yeah….i know about that….that’s make me confussed…..but i’m still thinking how come Madara still alive…….how old is he ?? I think the oldest man in Naruto is Kakuzu……

      • kakashi - February 20, 2011 at 11:32 pm #

        i am betting that madara is still alive because of zetsu’s powers.

  14. strawhat pirate10 - February 18, 2011 at 9:46 pm #

    ok i know some people get tirewd of hearing about the next crew member but this is wat i think Hodi will be the next crew member

    this is y i think that Oda said it was going to be a enemy and it has never been dun since he is the boss

    ok this is wats going to happen while Luffy and Hodi fighting Hodi go start talking bout how humans are inferior and they going to show hie background (like all members) and after Luffy beat Hodi up ha going to be banished from the kingdom

    Luffy go develope a liking to him so Luffy go ask him to be part of thr crew at first he going to refuse (like most charcters) but soon hegoing to say yea

    an thank about this his fighting style will be unique and his personality

    • kakashi - February 18, 2011 at 11:17 pm #

      if, and i stress the if, Oda did say that new nakama is gonna be an enemy, then i guess the hodi theory takes on a little more weight. the only reason i am ready to believe it s because Oda always does unpredictalbe yet, in hindsigh – entirely reasonable things with characters and their fates.

      but i searched the net for that quotation, but couldnt find it. anyway, i also heard frm other ppl in this forum that its gonna be an old enemy… so in that case i desperately hope for either croc or lucci just coz i like them.

      • zero_ichi - February 19, 2011 at 1:42 am #

        why you suggesting hammers to be next crew?, they need fishman to fill empty position which is “swimmer” guys. if oda truly said the next crew will be an old enemy, so the chance left to hachi.

        oh yea, the next crew member should be less power than monster trio right? if you agree, it puts enel, luccy, crocodile off limit isnt it?.

      • bj - February 19, 2011 at 9:21 am #

        i have said this b4 that whoever started that rumor that oda said the next nakama will me an old enemy is full of it…i keep telling ppl not to believe what they read on this forum or any chat room…honestly the guy probably just heard that on another site and decided to say it here and now everybody is running around saying it…like u i too have searched for that quote and i was unablet to find it…then i thought to myself, when has Oda ever released such information regarding a new character?? i dnt think that has ever happened and i dnt think its happening now…please lets put this rumor to rest…it doesnt mean the next nakama wont be a former enemy but i dnt believe that is from oda’s mouth..

    • jamali304 - February 19, 2011 at 11:16 am #

      i prefer mermaid will join straw hat crew…straw hat crew already have robot, skeleton..why not next crew will be mermaid…maybe other next crew is sea giant…

      • Rayleigh - February 20, 2011 at 8:47 pm #

        Why not a giant mermaid….?? :D It’s two in one….

  15. Choppa - February 19, 2011 at 12:47 am #

    i think when chopper transform to jumping point now he can do moonwalk, but i don’t have any other ideas about the other points

    pleas help me!

    • MDL - February 19, 2011 at 2:28 am #

      moonwalk…?

      doubt it… thats not like oda naming moves almost the same…

      sanji got blue walk… and you think oda would give chopper moonwalk? dont think so…

    • crocodile - February 19, 2011 at 9:15 am #

      yeaah choper can do moon walk better than michael jackson,…)

  16. dyll47 - February 19, 2011 at 1:25 am #

    “Three weeks after the war, Crocodile and Daz Bones are seen on an unidentified island in the Grand Line. Looking over the newspaper, he remarks that Luffy and Jinbei, right after having been saved, are committing foolish acts. Bones comments that they must have some sort of plan or they’re just being crazy, and then states that Luffy suffered “wounds” that don’t heal quickly. Crocodile contradicts Bones’ remark replying that his (Crocodile’s) “wounds” are already healed, and that he’s heading back to the New World as proof. Crocodile invites his former subordinate to come with him and Bones accepts without hesitation.”

    -from one piece wiki..

    i really hope croc will be their new crew.
    he mentioned that his “wounds” are already healed.it could mean that he no longer has grudges on luffy.so if they would meet in the new world, there’s a huge chance for him to join the crew.
    i know luffy mentioned a crew of 10.and daz bones decided to go with croc.so if croc joins the SH, it would make them 11.but who cares? luffy never said that he only wants a crew of 10.he just said that “probably”, a crew of 10 will do (or something like that).so having 11 isn’t out of the possibilities.
    or maybe daz and croc would separate in the new world for some reason.maybe they just agreed to go there together and go on separate ways after they reach new world.

    • ozneit - February 19, 2011 at 2:01 am #

      i heard they got married..

    • MDL - February 19, 2011 at 2:27 am #

      i doubt croc/daz would seperate they dont have anyone else to back them up… they need each other…

      and im sure oda wouldn’t let 2 people join right in the same time… so it cant be croc if hes with daz.

    • lecas - February 19, 2011 at 7:43 am #

      luffy said i need ten men..

    • bj - February 19, 2011 at 9:36 am #

      come on guy u kno that what u are saying has absolutely no chance of happening right?? i think u are giving ur fantasies excuses to become reality…u can rationalize any way u want but crocodile joining the strawhat crew will never happen and whoever thinks so should think abt paying more attention to the flow of the series…and besides for all of u who want to see old characters come back and join the crew, u are so boring i need a nap after reading ur insane theories…thats so boring..this is one of the greatest stories ever told and u ppl want to recycle characters? fuck that i want new and more awesome characters..the one piece world is far to big to be digging up ancient history.. i respect that u ppl have boners for crocodile and rob lucci and arlong or whichever boring choices you all have made but their time is over…it was fun while it lasted now get over it…i hope that when this is all over and luffy chooses his next nakama that u ppl will put these silly fantasies to rest for good…you all are throwing out these names of ur favorite old characters without even offering an opinion of the role they would play on the ship..or have ur monster hard ons cuased u to forget that every member has a role to play…and if u thinking of sayin zoro doesnt have a job then ur a moron becuz obviously his role is as the first mate…the one luffy can depend on to step up when he cant and to be the voice of reason for luffy..like when usopp tried to re-join the crew in water 7 without an apology and zoro wouldnt let him…even other crew are confused why zoro would follow another person instead of being a captain himself..zoro us the perfect first mate

      • MDL - February 19, 2011 at 4:41 pm #

        @bj agree with you..

        it was fun at first when the rumor got out and everyone started saying hella characters but its been 3 chapters seens the rumor came out… and its the same old shit… gets pretty boring when you read… arlong,croc,luci,gin 100 times…

        and everyone can pick out someone to join the SH and back it up with something…it hasn’t happend in one piece so you can think about it but oda wont do it…

        like i can say one of the supernovas joining cuz they lost there crew in the new world and then then SH run into them and then he joins the SH…

        everyone can make something up to back it up but it wont happen that quickly…

    • bj - February 19, 2011 at 9:54 am #

      and also what grudge did croc have against luffy..im sure he left all his grudges at impel down or else he wouldnt have worked with him…i think his wounds were whitebeards death and never having been able to fight with him again…even tho he wanted to defeat him i think he respected whitebeard a lot…maybe he kinda felt like he could have done more during the war…and obviously bones’ statment abt luffy was referring to the wounds caused by losing his brother..

      • kakashi - February 19, 2011 at 12:53 pm #

        i have been searching the net about this supposed comment by Oda that the new nakama is gonna be an old enemy boss… all i found was zilch. i think it may have been made just before the impel doen arc. there we saw luffy ally himself with the former enemy Corc (even Mr 2 and Mr 3 and Buggy count as old enemies and now allies). so i think this is just a rumor that has spread like wild fire just because it is so exciting.

  17. Zoro - February 19, 2011 at 3:57 am #

    why do u guys keep thinking hodi is power full his a weak ass guy he was a little kid wen arlong was a pirate and arlong was pretty weak . Luffy will kick hodi’s ass without even using his full strength i bet.

    • Rayleigh - February 19, 2011 at 6:26 am #

      Think again bro……

      1. When Hyozou still a kid….they’re stronger than Hachi…..and now he’s under Hodi’s command……from that i can assume that he’s at same level with Hodi…or maybe Hodi little stronger…..

      2. Just with his mouth Hodi can destroy whole ship and the crew of pirates who will arrive at FI….no way ordinary pirates can make their way to FI……

      3. He have ES(Energy Steroid)…….

      • Hm... - February 19, 2011 at 10:13 am #

        Nah u got it wrong, hyozou was as old as arlong or hacchi, that’s why Hacchi asked him why he helped the younglings. Hyozou pitied that arlong could only rent a fishman as hacchi, and that he didnt were under arlongs command anymore since he paid him so bad, so from my angle and look, he’s pretty old and expierinced. About the hodi thing being strong, I dont knoew actually!

      • Rayleigh - February 19, 2011 at 12:23 pm #

        What’s wrong ??? I mean since they’re kids…..Hyouzou stronger than Hacchi….so it mean they are at same age…….

        That’s what i mean…..zzzzz

      • Hm... - February 19, 2011 at 3:49 pm #

        Lol my bad then, even now i don’t fully understand u lol. I thought u wanted to point out that hyozou was a kid back then and by then he was superior to hacchi and now he is under command of hodi, which makes hodi strong, which is kinda wrong meant by me. Well soz for accusing hehe ^^

      • berto - February 19, 2011 at 4:17 pm #

        if you also think if hodi is that strong why does he need that ES? Hyozou is strong but i dnt thnk hodi is strong too with out es.

    • zero_ichi - February 19, 2011 at 11:08 am #

      hodi is not weak, he is super strong. you want to know why?

      as i remember arlong said that fishman is 10 times powerful than normal human (in land) and become more powerful in water/ sea. Hodi has ES which double the power. if Hodi eat 4 ES in one time, his power will be 160 times more powerful than normal human plus he has advantages in FI.

      now think again, with this fact do you still consider hodi as a weak ass guy?

      • kakashi - February 19, 2011 at 12:44 pm #

        of course hodi is not weak… being the captain of the NFP probably take a lot of strength. coupled with the fact that almost everyone on FI thinks that if the NFP attack, then the Ryuugu kingdom will fall – meaning that they are prolly super strong. hyouzou was acknowledged by luffy as super strong, i bet hes at least on the same level as kaku fighting on home turf. Hodi is a fanatic in his beliefs of Fishman superiority. that, plus the home court advantage AND the ES pills, Hodi will prolly be a challenge even to luffy. remember, even though Arlong was beaten pretty early in the series, he was still pretty strong. he wasnt a piss-ant like buggy or don krieg. do not underestimate hodi’s strength. otherwise the whole arc would be pretty boring if there are no strong enemies right at the entrancce to the New World.

      • Shadow666 - February 19, 2011 at 1:25 pm #

        You say that Hodi has the 160 mans, then what do you think of Luffy strength? How many mans is he worth?
        For all i’ve seen so far Luffy as shown great improvement and i doubt that he will have a hard time fighting Hodi.
        What would be the point of The SH struggling on their 1st fight after the time skip?

      • Shadow666 - February 19, 2011 at 3:43 pm #

        The only advantage that the NFP have is being on the water, without that they just like any other opponent they’ve faced so far. Arlong bite a pillar back then to show his strength, and Luffy said that he could do the same with his hands, there is nothing monstrous about Hodi and his crew when the opponent is the SH.

      • MDL - February 19, 2011 at 4:31 pm #

        i hope the SH crew wont have a problem with this arc… like they wont get all bloody b4 they beat the crap out of there opponents…

        they trained hella hard for 2 years and they get hella beat up right off the bat and there not even in the new world???

        hachi underestimate the SH strength… like everyone does when there about to get saved by them…

      • zero_ichi - February 20, 2011 at 2:11 am #

        @shadow666 = i dont know how many men is luffy worth, but it obvious that luffy is stronger than hodi. the typical of manga always show development of main character from green boy to golden boy. look there always be stronger enemy in every new arc, but the result always the same which the main character always win the battle. of course some time main char get beaten so he can do training to get stonger and come back to show his training result.

        new world is completely different in level than before, thats why i assumed the battle between SH vs NFP+Vanderdecken will not be an easy battle. it will be a hard battle even though SH already trained for 2 years. this hard battle predicted by madam shirley, but unfortunately shown only destruction of fishman island, and she only saw Luffy standing still after defeating hodi/vanderdecken. thats what i thought

      • Noodles - February 21, 2011 at 2:44 am #

        Well Hodi if you determine strength by dorikimy have to power of 100 men base which i 1000 Doriki if he takes one ES he is at 2000 Doriki and another he is at 4000 Doriki and another he is at 8000 Doriki and another he is at 16000 Doriki. Luffy before the timeskip could beat Rob Lucci who was at 4000 Doriki. When he fought the pasifista with the monster trio he couldn’t beat it by himself. Now he could destroy it in one hit meaning he is more than twice as strong as before. thus his base doriki should now be about 10000 to 13000 when added with his gears he will be able to beat Hodi.

  18. MDL - February 19, 2011 at 4:17 am #

    on this chapter, chapter 615.

    on page 20 the last page..

    on usopps ears does he have dials??? the once he got from skypia arc???

    mhh… if they are wonder what kind of dials they are… cant be impact… that would smash hes brain out…but they could be impact dials maybe just for protection as long as he doesn’t activate it…

    • bj - February 19, 2011 at 9:45 am #

      well it could just be headphones that look like dials or they could be sound dials or something..or they could be part of the new pair of goggles he has hidden under that hat..who know..i cant really see the purpose of any dials on his ears unless they were for sounds like music

      • kakashi - February 19, 2011 at 11:36 pm #

        lol… maybe hes playing skypeia music – lihe the angel harp that conis was playing hahahaha! OP ipod!

  19. dyll47 - February 19, 2011 at 5:29 am #

    we didn’t know…maybe daz has friends in the new world.or family.or get recruited by other pirates…or daz could die in the new world.
    they would face stronger pirates (could be BB and his crew).
    and since croc has this grudge on BB for taking his place as a schichibukai, he would try to kill him.but they’re no match for BB.and then luffy and his crew would save them.but daz wouldn’t survive.so croc will have the reason to join the SH crew to avenge daz.

    • bj - February 19, 2011 at 9:47 am #

      maybe this maybe that what if what if what if..that is all u ppl ever say….hey heres a maybe for u….maybe u are wrong and croc will never join the crew lol…just let it go…dnt u think u are stretching things a little with all these maybes lol

  20. Rayleigh - February 19, 2011 at 6:16 am #

    For now…..we can sure that Vander Decken XI is not going to join StrawHat’s…….he said himself…….that he’s a man who will never fall under another’s command………

    http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/78750707/10

    • bj - February 19, 2011 at 9:49 am #

      id hate if he did join…that would be rude to the ship’s sniper usopp

      • Rayleigh - February 19, 2011 at 12:26 pm #

        yeah…me too…..i’d love to see the new nakama is a woman…

      • kakashi - February 19, 2011 at 3:07 pm #

        i second that… a funny one this time please! :P hahaha. but sanji will probably die outright if shes sexy too!

      • Rayleigh - February 20, 2011 at 6:30 am #

        Yeah….he’ll die for sure…hahaha….he need some rehabilitation……..

  21. ZOMBITCH - February 19, 2011 at 6:18 am #

    ok, my topic about doflamingo his ability to control a human right? i figure out today his ability to control a BLOOD if you watch 465 and look carefully and listen to commander atomos and u hear his heart beat. i know this not manga and dont comment if dont like it its just my opinion. example if u have ability to control u have to control by something else right? example string like a puppet or by touching him BUT the 615 manga COME OUT and show the van decke watever his name and show his ability to control too? i mean to curse or watever its kinda similiar to doflamigo?

  22. DF User - February 19, 2011 at 6:20 am #

    the reason why Jimbei told luffy not to fight Hodi 8s because.. Hodi is a great white shark.. he’s territory is water.. I think Luffy is no match for Hodi in water.. Even luffy wears that bubble thing.. and being a fishman Hodi is 10x stronger than the average human, and twice that in water + energy steroid >.< and if u can still remember how hodi attacked gyro's crew using only his teeth.. Luffy's weakness is water + sharp objects.. Hodi's Sharp teeth can cut luffy's body in pieces..

  23. SALVAHE - February 19, 2011 at 10:30 am #

    PRINCESSS = NEXT CREW!

  24. riki - February 19, 2011 at 11:50 am #

    even though blackbeard is not invincible.., the darkness/gravity is indeed invincible, name one element that could match the darkness/black hole.., nothing.., magma, poison, light, sound wave, everything will ended up being swallowed.., so it is absolutely right when the blackbeard said it turn everything to NOTHING..!!

    • Rayleigh - February 19, 2011 at 12:30 pm #

      Light…..darkness natural enemy is light……

      • kakashi - February 19, 2011 at 2:42 pm #

        yeah.. but black hole is even more powerful than light. anyway, that doesnt matter so much – i mean it doesnt matter how strong an ability itself is. if a puny guy had even the yami yami DF he wud loose even to usopp hahaha… its as is often said – how u use and train ur DF is more imp than the poewr itself. all DFs have some kind of weakness or the other… BBs weakness of yami yami is that unlike other logias, he has to take the full force of all attacks – he cant becom untangiable like the other logias. gura gura no mi also must have some wekness – i dont see how an earthquake will affect lets say rubber. only way is to use both – use yami yami to make luff’s body natural again and then use gura gura earthquake on the body to kill. but he has to catch luffy and be in the close range and luffy has a gr8 ability to fight even at long range as well as close range. and on top of all that, luffy’s haki is truly incredible – even before 2 yr training at impel down, luffy’s gear 2nd jet pistol floored BB easily and he was quite surprised at luffy’ growth. tha evens the playing field imo.

        similarly, any haki type non df user will have an advantage in a fight wid BB. shanks for example right now could probably kick BBs ass, not without a lot of damage though. i think right now, luffy cant beat BB, though, only garp, shanks and maybe other yonkou could.

        but bb’s greatest weaknesds is probabaly his over reliance on his df powers. i think in the end luffy+nakama will defeat BB rather than luffy alone himself. bb’s theme is kinda opposite to luffy, but a villain is only good if hes stronger than the hero hahaah.

      • MDL - February 19, 2011 at 4:21 pm #

        BB got a crew too…

        why would you say “luffy+nakama will defeat BB rather than luffy alone himself”

        obv. its gonna be a 1 on 1 match between BB vs SH crew…

        and ye as WB stated, BB got a weak defense..

      • kakashi - February 19, 2011 at 5:02 pm #

        i meant that i think the BBvsSH fights shouldnt be like any other arc u know – with everyone fighting their own opponent suited acc. to the abilities etc. i’d like more of an epic finale kind of battle not just everyone having one hell of individual fights. though, as the crew numbers suggest, it seems likely that it will only be one on one fights. but i think the last fights should be more special than that. nthn more.

      • Rayleigh - February 20, 2011 at 6:35 am #

        BB weak defense mean he can defense his body…..but he got high durability…….very high………

        With that durability…i think he still can stand after punched by Luffy’s Elephant Gun…….

  25. dragon - February 19, 2011 at 11:51 am #

    van der draken wont join the crew because they already have a sniper

    • kakashi - February 19, 2011 at 11:43 pm #

      hahahahahahaha… everyone thinks that VDD wud be a good sniper coz of his Mato Mato fruit ability,….. what a joke!!!

      1) VDD can only remember AT MAX TWO targets at any one time. any other target wud need to be hit by regular sniping skills… which i dont suppose VDD has any better than average, let alone Usopp.
      2) he needs to touch the targets with his palms to remember them as targets. so what do you think, hes gonna swin out to the marine/enemy pirate ship every time he has to snipe at them??

      hahahaa…. VDD’s ability is more for hostage taking like he did with Shirahosi for past 10 yrs… or it wud be useful in a fight esp. if he has lots of places to hide so that he can rape u and himself never be seen. but he is most definitely NOT a sniper!