BLEACH 「ブリーチ ネタバレ」 483 Spoilers

2012 February 26

Bleach 483 Spoilers: The latest chapter end with the masked people arrived in yamamoto’s chamber and make a declaration of war. so what happens next..? find out story on BLEACH 483 Spoiler ブリーチ ネタバレ 第483話 at if you would like to discuss the Spoilers or predictions, please leave a comment below.

Bleach Chapter 483 Kriegserklarung










Bleach 483 Trivia: Tite Kubo has used a German motif on some of the Quincy’s items and abilities throughout the series.

637 Responses to “BLEACH 「ブリーチ ネタバレ」 483 Spoilers”

  1. Reach - March 1, 2012 at 12:09 am #

    Damn. Now everyone has an avatar lol.

    • MDre - March 1, 2012 at 12:33 am #

      it kinda lightens up this site. it also makes it easy to navigate and filter through the comments.

      • Reach - March 1, 2012 at 12:57 am #

        Yea I know. It’s just an amusing observation.

      • SwagAssassin ;) - March 1, 2012 at 1:01 am #

        All this site needs is a good background then it is all set! :D

      • Unidentified - March 1, 2012 at 2:07 am #

        @SwagAssassin ;) Why? It already matches the backgrounds in Bleach.

      • Reach - March 1, 2012 at 2:17 am #

        @anonymous Well you keep complaining about the backgrounds in bleach. I would think you want backgrounds here too lol.

      • SwagPistol ;) - March 1, 2012 at 2:26 am #

        I am not talking about Bleach alone…I am talking about the site in overall which also includes the homepage, One Piece and Naruto sections :D

      • Unidentified - March 1, 2012 at 2:31 am #

        @Reach Bleach is a manga which relies on art (including backgrounds) and storytelling, in which case, Bleach fails in both.

        This is a forum, it doesn’t necessarily need backgrounds.

      • Ashiro Muto ;) - March 1, 2012 at 2:34 am #

        It doesn’t need a background, huh? So you just wanna scroll in this endless white darkness?

      • SwagAssassin ;) - March 1, 2012 at 2:35 am #

        Damn wrong name…was supposed to comment with this one…

      • Reach - March 1, 2012 at 2:35 am #

        @anonymous You can’t take a joke can you?

      • Unidentified - March 1, 2012 at 5:46 am #

        @Reach I didn’t realize it was supposed to be a joke.

        @Ashiro Muto ;) No, but the text doesn’t count as part of the background.

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 1, 2012 at 12:55 pm #

        Maybe Kubo likes his backgrounds as blank as your icon.

      • Unidentified - March 1, 2012 at 8:01 pm #

        @Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto Maybe he does, it has to match the Bleach forum after all.

      • Titus Yoshi - March 2, 2012 at 9:42 am #


      • the shadow master - March 2, 2012 at 12:18 pm #


        While bleach backgrounds are pretty bland the characters are very well drawn. it’s kinda like this: You can focus on the backgrounds while drawing, but then the quality of the characters will go down because to draw a very complicated and dynamic background as well as a very detailed and dynamic character in one week is next to impossible. But on the other hand if you focus more on the characters then the backgrounds will become less dynamic. to put it simpler you can say kubo is 85% characters 15% backgrounds. Oda (one piece) is more 35% character and 65% background (<—- opinion, if you disagree that's fine). It's impossible to have let's say 70% backgrounds and 70% characters because that'll take more than a week and for a weekly shonen jump artist that's not very good (No cookies for anyone who can guess why). So in conclusion you shouldn't hate on kubo so much (Even though he is one hell of a troll) and you should give all the artists the respect they deserve :)

      • Unidentified - March 2, 2012 at 2:09 pm #

        @the shadow master The characters’ faces all look pretty much similar to each other. It’s as if he started with a couple face palettes and then just changed the clothes and hair styles for each new character.

        White backgrounds wouldn’t be a big problem if he didn’t overuse it, he wasted an entire page on ‘The Heart’ and that had no characters in it at all.

        Impossible? Other series have been able to accomplish this, that’s not an excuse, especially since Bleach used to have backgrounds when it was still half decent.

        Respect has to be earned, this is just lazy and half-assed and no amount of excuses can change that until Kubo put forth some actual effort into it.

      • the shadow master - March 2, 2012 at 2:36 pm #


        As you said respect has to be earned and to me kubo has done plenty to earn it. Yes there are mishaps here and there but come on he’s human, all humans make mistakes. Also the page wasting is a valid point but in some cases it works in others it does not. Also other series that you might be talking about are monthly? Also they are perhaps more focused on characters than backgrounds or vice versa. And i don’t really think that bleach characters look similar. I mean they all have their destinctive features.

      • the shadow master - March 2, 2012 at 2:40 pm #

        But if you really dislike bleach and kubo then i can’t really do or say anything about it. it’s your opinion. All i can say is move on to other manga that do suit your interest.

      • Unidentified - March 2, 2012 at 6:05 pm #

        @the shadow master The problem is that there’s more damage done compared to anything decent that’s left of Bleach.

        The characters do look similar, especially around the eyes.

        A focus on the characters is okay, but not when it’s the constant use of white backgrounds and a waste of foot/eye panels that take up much of the chapters.

        I’m already reading other mangas.

      • Reach - March 4, 2012 at 6:58 am #

        @anonymous So I guess you have a problem with inuyasha? Inuyasha has that same problem. All the characters look alike. Inuyasha looks like a white haired kagome while Sango looks like..well kagome. It’s the style of the artist that dictates it. One piece has similar looking characters. Nami’s face is used for almost all the women there. Zoro’s face is used for guys like smoker. One of the ways oda makes his characters look different is to make them look ridiculous as hell. Kubo’s style just looks like that. Even characters that looked unique in the beginning look a little similar now. It’s the evolution of his drawing style. Basically you can say he sacrifices ‘uniqueness’ for better quality. Say what you want but can you draw better than kubo? Probably not so I think you should still afford him some respect based off that. You most likely can’t draw any better than that and neither can I so I at least give him credit where credit is due.

        I think he meant why are you here if you don’t like bleach at all? I know why (I guess) but maybe he doesn’t.

      • JAMMY JAM - March 4, 2012 at 8:39 am #

        There are tons of other mangas that are like that but when its Bleach it automatically becomes a problem? I don’t know about you but i can easily tell each character a part from each other, one of the things i enjoy the most from reading a manga is the art (the good art makes it easier for me to.enjoy reading Bleach) so when i maybe look at someone, Ivan for example, then i would see that character as his own unique design.To me he doesn’t really look similar to anyone where as some people would say he looks like Aizen,its just Kubo’s way of designing a character and i like it.It fits Bleach.

      • the shadow master - March 4, 2012 at 1:40 pm #

        It’s his style. styles vary that’s why manga art is so awesome.

  2. MDre - March 1, 2012 at 12:51 am #

    funny chapter 483 review… and yeah Ivan’s rape face is official a meme now.

    • Reach - March 1, 2012 at 3:02 am #

      I laughed pretty hard at this. The guy’s got a point.

      • Titus Yoshi - March 1, 2012 at 8:21 pm #

        lol funny dude

        Makes me wanna start reading Bleach again

  3. Reach - March 1, 2012 at 3:44 am #

    Im surprised people haven’t chosen pics other than naruto and bleach (for the most part) as their avatars. I would’ve thought you guys would pick something to show something you like besides the this obvious stuff.

    • aexandria - March 1, 2012 at 4:05 am #

      Is there a listing anywhere that shows what the incantation of each kido? It almost sounded like Ivan’s chant was an incantation, coupled with that device, designed to seal away a bankai. I don’t think the other Captains resort to their bankais quite as fast as Ichigo does if a battle starts. They do have kido abilities and can fight hand-to-hand if necessary…unless their taken off guard. We may just see a Captain or two die. (I’m predicting Komamura and Shunsui or Ukitake…just to make us hate the Quincies more)

      Since Yama’s Lt came flying through the window, I guess it’s safe to assume more Quincies are out and about. Split battles between Ichigo and others next week?

      • aexandria - March 1, 2012 at 4:34 am #

        “they’re” taken off guard

      • AixxiA - March 1, 2012 at 7:53 pm #

        i agree

  4. jennatalia - March 1, 2012 at 5:12 am #

    Great read. Interesting front cover. I wonder if we’ll get to see Karin’s potential later in the series as well as Ururu’s and Jinta’s.

  5. JAMMY JAM - March 1, 2012 at 12:34 pm #

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    c = decimal.Parse(FAHRENHEIT.Text);
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    else if (groupBox2.Enabled==true)
    f = decimal.Parse(CELSIUS.Text);
    answer = FtoC (f);
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    • JAMMY JAM - March 1, 2012 at 12:35 pm #

      It don’t work.I’m a begginer

      • JAMMY JAM - March 1, 2012 at 12:45 pm #

        FUCK THAT!!!!!!!!

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 1, 2012 at 12:56 pm #

        Hahaha still no icon for you! Just go tot hat site and follow the directions! It should take 5 minutes or less.

      • JAMMY JAM - March 1, 2012 at 12:59 pm #

        I can’t access my email address, i forgot my password to get in.

      • JAMMY JAM - March 1, 2012 at 1:00 pm #

        But i’ll create me another one later today so i can get a profile pic.

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm #

        Yeah but then you’ll be in Moderation again.

      • JAMMY JAM - March 1, 2012 at 1:04 pm #

        Ya i’ll have to wait a while before everyone can see it.

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 1, 2012 at 1:07 pm #

        Okay well gotta go to class.

  6. Sakanade - March 1, 2012 at 3:09 pm #

    A thousand blades rise from the ground with their scattering infinitely more blades then rise. Impossible to know their numbers impossible to even read their path, much less avoid them. Nothing to do but watch as one watches the wind pass and wait for the blades to pass through you. One can do nothing but stand there, frozen and then be swept away from this world. Shall I tell you the difference between you and I? It’s class.

    – Byakuya Kuchiki.

  7. AvatarShawn9169 - March 1, 2012 at 8:21 pm #


    • AvatarShawn9169 - March 1, 2012 at 8:25 pm #

      now that avatar is a perfect fit for me don’t u think

      • Titus Yoshi - March 1, 2012 at 8:27 pm #

        Oh ya, thought it was a pokemon or something at first

        But now I see it, Aang FTW

        Fits your name perfect

      • Titus Yoshi - March 1, 2012 at 8:28 pm #

        I’m liking Kakashi’s new avatar too

        Fits his personality

      • Ashirogi Muto - March 1, 2012 at 8:30 pm #

        yeah I needed something that was discernible from the small icon size itself and didnt wanna go with the usual manga pic :D

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 1, 2012 at 9:24 pm #

        Mines is the best so Far.

      • Titus - March 1, 2012 at 9:28 pm #

        ha! thats funny Uchiha

        cool kinda gettin used to usin the VITA to wriite comments

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 1, 2012 at 9:29 pm #

        Must be awesome.

      • Titus - March 1, 2012 at 9:35 pm #

        nice new pic

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 1, 2012 at 9:36 pm #

        Yeah and i correct myself…This is the best pic so Far!

      • Titus Yoshi - March 1, 2012 at 9:38 pm #

        Nope, this would have to be the best

        Then Kakashi and MDre

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 1, 2012 at 9:41 pm #

        Now this one is the best.

      • Titus Yoshi - March 1, 2012 at 9:48 pm #

        lol why are they all of Uchiha’s and their sharingans?

        Ya, this one is chill

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 1, 2012 at 9:53 pm #

        Haha why? cause it’s cool!

  8. Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 1, 2012 at 9:54 pm #

    Going off.

  9. nakamura - March 2, 2012 at 3:12 am #


    • JAMMY JAM - March 3, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

      Hiro Nakamura

  10. SHV - March 2, 2012 at 4:43 am #

    can any one help me how to get an avatar ? thank you

    • Niko - March 2, 2012 at 8:18 am #

      Go to page 4, first comment.

  11. JAMMY JAM - March 2, 2012 at 7:52 am #


    • JAMMY JAM - March 2, 2012 at 9:32 am #

      Now i’m cool!!!

    • MDre - March 2, 2012 at 1:24 pm #

      …hmm, is that right?

  12. MDre - March 2, 2012 at 12:23 pm #

    I just found out that “Vandenreich” is a typo, it’s suppose to be “van den reich”
    it means “followers of the empire.”

    • jennatalia - March 2, 2012 at 12:33 pm #

      Didn’t the Bounts have German names too? That’s probably my least favorite anime arc.

    • MDre - March 2, 2012 at 1:22 pm #

      yeah and Quinces have German names too.

  13. JAM - March 2, 2012 at 12:48 pm #


  14. Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 2, 2012 at 12:56 pm #

    Brandon’s going to be hella surprised when he gets back.

    • MDre - March 2, 2012 at 1:11 pm #

      OK… hey that’s two letters XD

      • MDre - March 2, 2012 at 1:23 pm #

        Epic fail

  15. JAMMY JAM - March 2, 2012 at 1:06 pm #


  16. JAMMY JAM - March 2, 2012 at 1:11 pm #

    Uchiha why don’t u keep ur other pic, i liked that it more than ur current onE.

    • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 2, 2012 at 5:48 pm #

      Are you talking about the Tobi Sharingan one? and yours is gay by the way.

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 2, 2012 at 5:48 pm #

        Ems Sasuke for the win.

      • Ashirogi Muto - March 2, 2012 at 7:31 pm #

        Emotionally Mature Sasuke (EMS)

        HAHAHHA! What a joke!

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 2, 2012 at 9:38 pm #

        Haha i had a feeling someone would do wat you did!

      • JAMMY JAM - March 3, 2012 at 11:57 am #

        Your sasuke pic was gay(reason why you took it off), your Tobi one was awesome.How can my previous pic (Lightning, which was pure awesomeness) be gay? Does make come off as a female?

      • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 3, 2012 at 7:38 pm #

        I didn’t realized that it was gone until now – when i got back,and your pic just looked gay.It’s that simple lol.

  17. JAMMY JAM - March 3, 2012 at 11:43 am #

    JAMMY JAM test1.0

  18. JAMMY JAM - March 3, 2012 at 12:59 pm #

    MDre – March 2, 2012 at 12:23 pm #
    I just found out that “Vandenreich” is a typo, it’s suppose to be “van den reich”
    it means of the empire.”

    Is that right? We can assume that the van den reich are the survivors from the Quick war (losing a war doesn’t mean that they’re all dead, it just means that they lost the war).

    Now i’m wondering if Ishida can get as strong as these guys, or maybe Quincies powers is and has always been hollow powers (my theory of their being only two types of powers which is hollow and shinigami ) and Quincy is just the name they used to name it since no one new what they are exactly (Which is why Mayuri wants to experiment on one of them), so maybe the next step in their evolution is to grow a hollow mask.

    • MDre - March 3, 2012 at 5:36 pm #

      dude re-read my post. I said “van den reich” means “followers of the empire.”

      • JAMMY JAM - March 3, 2012 at 7:44 pm #

        dude i was saying the the exact same thing as you, all i was doing was putting something with it.And for some reason i couldn’t copy n’ past your full comment so it came out 9/10 full. van den reich (followers of the empire), they said the van den reich will destroy soul society and i said they could be other surviving Quincy.You need to reread.

  19. theboss - March 3, 2012 at 2:58 pm #

    Pictures woah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Titus Yoshi - March 3, 2012 at 3:07 pm #


      • theboss - March 3, 2012 at 3:45 pm #

        i need to know now

      • Titus Yoshi - March 3, 2012 at 3:50 pm #

        Make a gravatar account using the e-mail you use to post comments, put your pic in, and rate the pic G

        Then in a few minutes after you doing so your pic will pop up

  20. Brandon - March 3, 2012 at 4:57 pm #

    The fuck happened here?

    Also nice picture @Jam

    • Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto - March 3, 2012 at 7:40 pm #

      I knew you would be hella surprised!

      Uchiha Sasuke Vs Uzumaki Naruto – March 2, 2012 at 12:56 pm #
      Brandon’s going to be hella surprised when he gets back.

    • JAMMY JAM - March 3, 2012 at 8:48 pm #

      Thanks Brandon, you should get yourself one too!

      • Brandon - March 3, 2012 at 11:38 pm #

        Nah… it increases the cache it has to load whenever someone visits the site…

        At first I thought the site was down because loading took way longer than it should…

  21. kenpachi - March 3, 2012 at 8:52 pm #


  22. OMG Its Reaper - March 4, 2012 at 12:06 am #

    hello everyone

  23. MightyM - March 4, 2012 at 12:42 am #

    Slow week or disinterest? There doesn’t seem to be as much discussion as usual this week.

    • Unidentified - March 4, 2012 at 12:55 am #

      So much for Bleach being ‘back’, as some people claimed it would be.

      • MightyM - March 4, 2012 at 1:06 am #

        I can remember, about a year back, when not even a page was fully used at times.

      • Unidentified - March 4, 2012 at 1:31 am #

        I think that was during the Fullbring arc, a lot of people lost interest during that time.

      • Sakanade - March 4, 2012 at 1:33 am #

        If more info was released by Kubo, then speculations would fill this page. WE nevertheless ever fail to come back, cuzwe simply have been following since day one, and need to know the ending, even though it doesent appeal.

      • Titus Yoshi - March 4, 2012 at 1:53 am #

        I don’t even read Bleach anymore :/

        Has it gotten any better?

      • MightyM - March 4, 2012 at 1:54 am #

        I went the backwards route and started watching the US anime first instead of reading. Once that hit a barrier(reruns), I sought out the anime over the Internet and found English subtitled versions(entire weekend dedicated starting at the mid-Bount arc until the anime hiatus after the Vizard history was explained and before Ichigo went all SS3 level hollow.) I discovered I like reading subtitles more than hearing the translation. When the anime stood still, I found the manga and now am patiently waiting with the rest of us.

      • Unidentified - March 4, 2012 at 2:38 am #

        @Titus Yoshi Well, it’s not at the Fullbring arc’s level of bad, but it’s kind of hard to describe, it’s really uneventful, especially for a war that’s about to take place and everything feels nonchalant and subdued because there’s barely any tension.

        Not much has really happened, the Vanderich (Quincies?) declared war on Soul Society and hollows went missing.

        @Sakanade Exactly, but a lot of people were excited about the final arc and then it came out and a couple chapters later, the hype pretty much fizzled out since then.

      • Titus Yoshi - March 4, 2012 at 2:59 am #

        Ah, so doesn’t look like I’m gonna be trying to read Bleach again any time soon…

        Plz inform me if it gets good again :]

      • Unidentified - March 4, 2012 at 3:21 am #

        @Titus Yoshi All right, but you can always look at the spoilers and see if you like it or not.

      • Reach - March 4, 2012 at 7:07 am #

        @Titus Why don’t you just read the chapter instead of asking? It’s bleach so to be honest it isn’t going to take a lot of your time. Hell in the time it took you to write the posts you couldve read it already. Even if someone tells you it’s good again you’ll just have to read it from the beginning otherwise yours not going to understand what’s going on. To be honest you’re probably not going to read it or you’ll start up from the beginning which defeats the purpose of ‘quiting’ bleach.

      • JAMMY JAM - March 4, 2012 at 7:58 am #

        @Anonymous so does that mean Naruto and one piece has gotten worse too, they both failed to obtain they’re usual amount of comments (Naruto and One Piece is almost 300 comments behind they’re usual amount which is 1200 comments or in One Pieces case 2400 comments).

      • Unidentified - March 4, 2012 at 8:12 pm #

        @JAMMY JAM Uh, no. One Piece was on a break last week and Naruto at least has 1,000+ comments, which Bleach seems to be struggling to do.

        Bleach had a lot of hype when the arc started and in a short period of time, Kubo squandered it.

      • JAMMY JAM - March 5, 2012 at 7:47 am #

        If one piece got its usual amount then it would have 2400 comments by now instead of under 2000, So its gotten worse.Naruto has 200 less than the usual so its gotten worse as well.

  24. ONE TWO THREE - March 4, 2012 at 5:49 am #

    Mkay… how do i get blue name and an avatar?

  25. Reach - March 4, 2012 at 7:13 am #

    I’ve got an idea that should spark some interest into this place. How about we discuss the poems that release with every Bleach volume. It’s pretty much been established (from every forum I’ve been in and person I’ve talked to) that kubo writes these poems. In honor of rukia finally getting her seconds volume cover lets start with volume 54.

    “If it can be said that it is the heart that is unchanging, then that is strength.”

    Let the discussion commence.
    (side note: I’ll probably post the poems for the all the volumes for us to discuss if you guys really get into this. The poems are all referencing the character on the cover of the volume.)

    • JAMMY JAM - March 4, 2012 at 8:20 am #

      I’d like to see someone else’s answer first before i try to comment.

      • Mickey D - March 4, 2012 at 9:22 am #

        Really? Gonna make me say it here. Aite!



      • JAMMY JAM - March 4, 2012 at 10:11 am #

        I see.Anyone else??

    • Reach - March 4, 2012 at 2:06 pm #

      Ok lol. Maybe I should start it off so you guys get a sense of what I mean.

      I think that it could represent an inability to change. This is what I thought of when I read the poem when i first read it. I think change is necessary though so I am not sure why Kubo chose this poem for Rukia, although I kind of understand but yet I just kept feeling I want to disagree.

    • jennatalia - March 4, 2012 at 5:45 pm #

      I think it would be better if they were hiakus.

      • Reach - March 4, 2012 at 6:24 pm #

        I’m guessing no one understand what I meant when I said we should discuss the poems. Well this is what I get for trying to be an active member here and trying something new.

      • jennatalia - March 4, 2012 at 7:54 pm #

        On your period? Do it enough times and people will take notice. Give up, and it was a lost cause.

        I wouldn’t consider it a poem as much as a statement. If it is true, it explains why those that covet other people have the drive to keep their infatuation alive. If a person receives the affection in return, the bond may grow in a relationship. Some, however, don’t need the returned affection and make it up instead. It would explain the passion behind stalkers and normal couples.

      • Reach - March 4, 2012 at 8:38 pm #

        What? This poem is about rukia not stalkers. I guess I can see where you get your opinion on it but have you ever bought a bleach volume before? Each volume comes with a poem (traditionally because 99% are poems) that has something to do with the character on the cover of that volume. Take a look at the poem for volume 53.

        The fact that I am so very young
        And inexperienced
        Seems to be unforgivable
        To those decrepit
        And perfect adults.

        There’s a lot of different ways you can read into this just like for volume 54’s.

        The only reason I said that is because I’ve been told that I should bring up topics for discussion because to be honest hardly anyone does. The only reason I did this is because the poems themselves have a lot of possible meanings and give a lot of insight into the characters. Excuse me for being an active forum member and not having such an apathetic approach towards this.

      • jennatalia - March 4, 2012 at 9:14 pm #

        Never purchased a volume before, but it’s interesting to know that there are poems that go along with it. That being said, if you include them in your post, it would give the readers an idea of what you’re talking about. I made my comment based on your sentence. The collective can only respond to the information provided.

      • Reach - March 5, 2012 at 1:05 am #

        I posted in the side note that the poems all refer to the characters on the cover of that particular cover. So volume 54’s deals with rukia just like volume 53’s deals with Yukio and so on for each.

      • jennatalia - March 5, 2012 at 1:51 am #

        That brings up the question, how long do soul reapers live and when are they considered “adults”? Rukia, Renji and others are still fairly young…comparatively speaking, but they are drawn as young adults. Toshiro hasn’t even reached adulthood and it supposed to get stronger with age. He might be the zanpakuto opposite of Yama for all intensive purposes.

      • Reach - March 5, 2012 at 3:58 am #

        Well byakuya was a child when the visoreds were captains. That was a couple hundred years ago I think and now he seems to be in his early to mid thirties. I just think the aging process is slowed. Rukia told Ichigo in the first chapter that she has lived at least ten of his lives and she looks like she’s about 18 or however old Ichigo is. Renji is probably the same sense him and rukia were kids at the same time. Shunsui has was a teenager when Yamamoto founded that soul reaper academy and now he looks in his forties. We haven’t been given how slow the aging process is. So far all we know is that it happens extremely slowly and that you can live for quite a long time.

    • MDL - March 5, 2012 at 1:57 am #


      • Reach - March 5, 2012 at 3:51 am #

        I think your avatar speaks for itself. There is nothing boring about this. If you feel liking actually discussing this and giving your interpretation of this volume poem then go ahead otherwise don’t bother commenting at all.

      • MDL - March 5, 2012 at 5:32 am #

        Reach, poems? IDGAF about poems, and I gave my opinion about this topic, and that is why I commented something. BORING

      • Reach - March 5, 2012 at 12:13 pm #

        No you just now gave your opinion that you don’t give a fuck about poems. These poems are not little flights of fancy that kubo plops into the volumes for fun. These poems deal with their respective characters and give insight into that character. Just because you don’t want to turn your brain on for four seconds to actually have an intellectual conversation on this doesn’t mean it’s boring. It means that I’ve grossly overestimated the intelligence of the people in this forum (especially you) and their ability to have engaging discussion in on what is still an interesting topic in bleach do next time you don’t give a rats ass about something do everyone and don’t bother commenting because no one wants to hear it.

    • Mickey D - March 5, 2012 at 2:15 am #

      R U guys serious???

      The poem means that Rukia’s unwavering faith in Ichigo shows true strength as in most ppl doubt would’ve not only occured and they would’ve begun 2lose hope. Rukia didn’t.