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One Piece 674 Spoilers 「ワンピース ネタバレ」

2012 July 8

One Piece 674 Spoilers: The last Chapter end with Joker true identity show up..! so what happens next..? find out story on One Piece 674 Spoilers 「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第674話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoiler or prediction, please leave a comment below.

One Piece 674 Spoilers Summaries

Credit: T
Trans : Aohige

ONEPIECE 第674 傍観者達 
扉絵 短期集中連載 人魚の入江に響く悲鳴
シーザーは何故連れ出した 子供たちが苦しんでると波とウソップに言う。
ナミは怒り何を飲ませたの!皆家に帰りたがってるから必ずココから逃がすという。
子供たちはマスター!キャンディーくれよと言う。止めようとしたウソップは殴られる。子供は幻覚を見ていて ナミをゴキブリ呼ばわりして殴った。
ウソップがシーザーに向けて火の鳥星をうって引火爆発させようと思ったがシーザーは空気もすべて操れるため 当たる前に火を消した。酸素を抜けば呼吸もできなくなる。
ウソップナミ気絶しそうな所でシーザーは子供たちに命令。【この悪魔たちを退治しろ!その巨大なパイプ で頭を割ってやれ】
ピンチに茶ひげ登場。パイプを受け止めシーザーに攻撃。目が醒めた茶ひげは部下を返せというがシーザー は嘲笑う。三人ともガスタネットにより爆発。
シーザーとモネが無線で会話。
シーザーは無線で誰かに語り出す。
『あー各地非合法成る仲介人(ブローカー)諸君。急な実験ですまないがこれを目にする君らは運 が良い。』
『これより見せる毒ガス兵器は4年前のそれに新たな効果を加えとても政府には作り出せない代物に成っている 』
『今日 輪が島に招かれざる珍客達が迷い込んできた為この機会に実験を執り行う次第だ』
『国盗り 戦争 支配 用とは様々 気に行ってもらえたら取引をしようじゃないか。』
会話の相手は新世界各地の海賊。島の周りにはキッド一味やペコムズ、その他謎の海賊たちが居る。各地には映 像デンデンムシが繋がってい居る。チョッパーは隠れて話しを聞いていた。
キッドの部下「お頭・・・殺戮兵器に興味が・・・?」
キッド『いや・・・・知っといて損はねえだろ?』
次週。 

ONEPIECE Chapter 674: Spectators
Coverart: new short coverstory.. A scream heard in the Mermaid bay

Caeser asks why Usopp and Nami have brought the children out of the lab, they’re in pain now
Nami is pissed, questions him what he fed them. The children want to go home, and she swears to get them out of here.
The kids ask the Master to give them more candies. Usopp tries to stop them, but is punched.
The kids are hallucinating, and hits Nami thinking her a cockroach.

Usopp shoots a Firebird Star at Caeser in attempt to set him on fire and explode, but CC can manupilate even the air around him, so he snuffs the fire out before it reaches him. By removing the oxygen in the air, he can make people suffocate.
Usopp and Nami are about to fall unconcious, and CC orders the kids “Get rid of these demons! Use that giant pipe over there, and crack their heads open!”
However, Brownbeard appears to save them from their danger. He blocks the pipe, and attacks Caeser.
Brownbeard sees the truth now, and demands CC let go of his men. Caeser simply laughs at him.
He uses the Gastanet to blow up the three.

CC den-den radio contacts Monet.
He then contacts someone else…

“Ahem, Illegal underworld brokers, sorry for the hasty experiment, but you men are lucky to be a witness to this.
The poison gas weapon you’re about to witness is improved from the one four years ago with new effects the World Government would never be able to recreate.
Today, my island has had some… unwelcomed visitors. This is a perfect chance for me to perform this experiment.
Invasion. War. Conquest. This weapon has many utilization. If you like what you see here, let’s talk business.”

The ones he’s transmitting to are pirates around the world.
Around the island you see the Kid pirates, Pekoms, and many other unknown pirates.
Each location have a vision den-den mushi broadcasting the scene.
Chopper hides and listens to the conversation.

Kid’s man: Hey boss… you interested in this Weapon of Mass Murder?
Kid: No… but it doesn’t hurt to know these things.

End of chapter

Trivia: Doflamingo’s flag was the first “smilie” style Jolly Roger to be seen in the series. Doflamingo also states that slavery is “out”, but smilies are “in”. The significance of the smilie has yet to be revealed but has appeared in other places since.

1,236 Responses to “One Piece 674 Spoilers 「ワンピース ネタバレ」”

  1. komori Ningen - July 14, 2012 at 11:26 am #

    WHAT ?!!!!! Aokiji is in the movie 12 ?!!!!
    And he has a BIG ASS SCAR IN THE LEFT SIDE OF HIS NECK GOING TO HIS CHEST !!!
    AKAINU !!!!!! Damn you !!!!! Can’t you just fight someone without leaving him a scar ?!!!

    • Nidai Kitetsu - July 14, 2012 at 11:48 am #

      how did you not know that? lol. and yeah such is the nature of magma i guess, if ur afraid to get burnt dont head into the volcano, or in this case akainu, though im sure sakazuki has some scars of his own courtesy of kuzan

    • nickname - July 14, 2012 at 12:30 pm #

      i didn’t even notice the scar until now O.o

      but like nidai said i bet akainu has one or more scars as well.

      can’t wait until oda shows sakazuki as fleet admiral again and how exactly his fight with aokiji ended.

  2. nickname - July 14, 2012 at 12:41 pm #

    this topic has been discussed here time and time again but now that we know that the VA and head of G5 (vergo) stayed in the NW during the war, the same can most likely be said for the VA and head of the old G1 and new MHQ. the lower number and the importance this base has now makes me assume that the head of G1 is even stronger than vergo and that he stayed in the NW during the war as well.

    what i want to say with that is that the old head of G1 is my bet for one of the new admirals together with onigumo.

    • love_lucy - July 14, 2012 at 1:07 pm #

      during the war its not like the marines left the NW deserted so all the crazy pirates of the NW could do whatever they want ..that would be hell..afterall there must be marines powerful enough to hold the fort..what iam curious about is their ‘POWERS’

    • komori Ningen - July 14, 2012 at 3:12 pm #

      Isn’t G1 the old marine ford ?
      If that’s the case so I guess the head there is none other than the fleet admiral himself

      • nickname - July 14, 2012 at 3:22 pm #

        i was talking about the VA who was the head of the old G1 two years ago. after the war akainu switched the headquarters from marine ford in GL to G1 in the NW and i believe the guy who was in charge of G1 until akainu moved the headquarters there stayed in the NW during the war just like vergo did and that he is one of the new admirals.

      • komori Ningen - July 14, 2012 at 11:06 pm #

        Yeah that would be great
        G1 VA must be pretty badass

  3. komori Ningen - July 14, 2012 at 12:56 pm #

    Ceasar is relatively easy to beat, you see for him to remove oxygen he has to be focus on just that.
    If he gets disturbed and loses his concentration, the attack does not have effect anymore

  4. KAIZER - July 14, 2012 at 1:26 pm #

    Speaking of admiral, that means there are two missing
    1 akainu now fleet admiral
    2 kizaru admiral
    3 ????
    4 ????

    • KAIZER - July 14, 2012 at 1:39 pm #

      For the seconde one he may be from G1 and thé third
      Oné some badass we did’nt met yet
      But Thérè is oné other possibilité is that they did’nt
      Choose any oné els .

      Ahh sorry for thé writing its balack Berry not good
      Enought for MS .

      We neéd to ask MS to développe an app cuz i think
      Thé majority of us use phone to connect héré

    • Sakanade - July 14, 2012 at 3:29 pm #

      Maybe a shichibukai has become an admiral?

      • zerolary - July 14, 2012 at 3:31 pm #

        Or maybe there arent any other admirals.

      • Sakanade - July 14, 2012 at 3:34 pm #

        Unlikely.

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 14, 2012 at 4:50 pm #

      Admirals can be more than 3 or less as long as there is someone powerful enough to fill that position. And Jimbie said with the new rule WG granted the marines the marines is now stronger than what they were before. My question is what is the new rule the WG granted the marines?? Maybe a shichibukai can become an Admiral or a pirate can quit pirating n become a marine? Maybe something like that.

      • Nidai Kitetsu - July 14, 2012 at 5:12 pm #

        i doubt that the WG would allow that, that would make it soo easy for a pirate to become a spy within the marines, that would weaken them not make them stronger

      • MDL - July 14, 2012 at 8:09 pm #

        Pirates will ALWAYS be pirates…

        The WG can’t even trust the Shichibukai’s and they know that Shichibukai’s CAN’T be trusted, so many of them have fucked with the WG/Marines just to get to there goal.

        My theory is that, the WG found a way to ‘clone’ DF powers and ‘install’ them to people/Pacifistas. That would make them soooo much stronger than they were before.

  5. d'paul - July 14, 2012 at 4:56 pm #

    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v60/c674/16.html
    sanji/nami removed his jacket when he went into the lake to save the samurai, i thought the jacket would turn back to snow if removed.

    • love_lucy - July 14, 2012 at 5:02 pm #

      you are wrong..nami was wearing sanji’s jacket before they switched bodies

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 14, 2012 at 5:04 pm #

      @d’paul you need to pay attention in class. Lol

      • love_lucy - July 14, 2012 at 5:05 pm #

        are you always such a smartass?

      • Eustass capt kidd - July 14, 2012 at 5:20 pm #

        i bet he is tats is y he makes some great predictions there r others also like kekashi, riley escobar etc….. srry if i forgot others name.

  6. money d. haki - July 14, 2012 at 5:11 pm #

    Do you guys think ODA will show aokiji and akainu’s fight???

    • love_lucy - July 14, 2012 at 5:17 pm #

      thats almost certain

    • dOPe - July 14, 2012 at 5:22 pm #

      I think so, at least to some extend. We don’t know what exactly happend to aokiji after the fight, and I think, that it’s going to play a big role in the future plot. So I guess we’re going to see a flashback sometime.

    • love_lucy - July 14, 2012 at 5:29 pm #

      well no matter what has been up to..he is nothing but a loser wondering around licking his wounds..i personally think his rol in OP is already over

      • Smoker [white hunter] - July 14, 2012 at 6:26 pm #

        not really, he could join the revolutionary army.

      • Monkey D. Natsu - July 14, 2012 at 9:02 pm #

        I think Kuzan’s sense of Justice is too strong for him to be finished in the story.

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 14, 2012 at 8:02 pm #

      Bunch of people keep saying there gonna be a special episode for Akainu n Aokiji fight, I’m not sure just rumors.

      • love_lucy - July 14, 2012 at 8:34 pm #

        are those bunch of ppl are actually just YOU making stuff up

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 14, 2012 at 9:04 pm #

        Lol I could careless about Aokiji n Akainu fight go on YouTube watch some reviews about the movie Z then read the comments you see them saying it. Lol n I don’t know why you keep hating, you jealous or something??

      • love_lucy - July 14, 2012 at 9:33 pm #

        hating..lol what’s going on? i would have said the same thing to anyone who posted this phrase ‘Bunch of people keep saying’
        not just you..plz don’t forget this is just some random site over the net..theres no jealousy ,no hatred ..theres nothing actually,so you better stop deluding yourself its not healthy.

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 1:07 am #

        Zehahaha well said..

  7. Smoker [white hunter] - July 14, 2012 at 7:17 pm #

    One Piece Character Selection:

    1. Name..

    2. Gender..

    3. Pirate/Marine..

    4. Ability..

    5. Crew name/marine ranking..

    6. Jolly Roger..

    7. Alliance..

    6. Dream..

    • MDL - July 14, 2012 at 8:30 pm #

      1. Name.. Monkey D. Luffy

      2. Gender.. Male

      3. Pirate/Marine.. Pirate – Future Pirate King

      4. Ability.. Ate the Gum-Gum fruit

      5. Crew name/marine ranking..Captain of the Straw Hat Pirates

      6. Jolly Roger.. Skull with a Straw Hat

      7. Alliance.. Many people

      6. Dream.. To be the Pirate King

    • nickname - July 14, 2012 at 8:37 pm #

      1. Captain Buggy-sama
      2. Clown
      3. Pirate
      4. Bara Bara no Mi
      5. Captain of the Buggy Pirate Fleet
      6. A skull with a red nose (who are you calling red nose heh?)
      [even though i got beat up by buggy I’ll continue]
      7. Alliance with the God of Luck (or Oda???)
      8. to own all existing treasure in the world!

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 14, 2012 at 9:11 pm #

      You could’ve made it more fun by typing “character creation” not “character selection”.

      • Monkey D. Natsu - July 14, 2012 at 9:13 pm #

        Yh it would be good to see some unique ideas for some DFs.

      • ager - July 14, 2012 at 11:15 pm #

        wooo trolls are here…

      • Looney Tunes - July 14, 2012 at 11:29 pm #

        Captain Multi D. Plex Lol just makin shit up
        Gender male
        Pirate
        Multiply Multiply Fruit
        Skull smiley face with an X through it
        Who ever wants to work under me
        to be the only living yonkou

    • kopi - July 15, 2012 at 5:49 am #

      One Piece Character Selection:
      1. Name : possu “the judgement”
      2. Gender : male
      3. Pirate/Marine : can be both
      4. Ability : gun gun fruis ( turn any parts of his body into any kind of guns), master sharpshooting, master in disguise, super intelegence, reflexes, speed and stamina.
      5. Crew name/marine ranking : currently work alone
      6. Jolly Roger : skull flag like the punisher
      7. Alliance : whoever paid him to kill.
      6. Dream : god of sniper.

  8. firstmate zoro - July 14, 2012 at 8:46 pm #

    Does any1 known of a op game that`s online and let’s u create hr own character and there affliction

    • Monkey D. Natsu - July 14, 2012 at 8:59 pm #

      Are you asking if there is one?

      Or you telling us you found one?

  9. Monkey D. Natsu - July 14, 2012 at 9:44 pm #

    Is it just me or is Love_Lucy owning MS? lol

  10. carpio9200 - July 14, 2012 at 9:50 pm #

    hey has anybody mention this theory about what devil fruit BB will get/try to get IMO it to be aokiji’s

    • dOPe - July 14, 2012 at 10:21 pm #

      Marco’s would be epic, to boost his defense. Btw, does anyone know if wounds dealt with haki infused attacks regenerate using marcos df? I think YES, damage gets dealt(haki) but afterwords he heals again.
      At least that’s what i thaught.

      • nickname - July 14, 2012 at 10:29 pm #

        this can be pretty much considered as a fact. marco’s df allows him to regenerate from any kind of damage, so it doesn’t really matter if it’s a haki attack or not.
        but marco is not a logia so you don’t need haki to (temporarily) damage him.

        but haki increases the damage marco would have to take so it def makes sense to use haki because according to oda marco’s regeneration ability has a limit. and the higher the damage he has to take is the faster he reaches this limit.

      • dOPe - July 14, 2012 at 10:34 pm #

        Ahh, ok, then that’s like I rememberd it. Wasn’t sure anymore cos I read somewhere his wounds wouldn’t heal. So that confused me a bit.

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 14, 2012 at 11:25 pm #

      Jozu has the most powerful defense DF they have ever showed on One piece, nothing can destroy a diamond. Zoro will probably be the first person to cut a diamond.

      • nickname - July 14, 2012 at 11:44 pm #

        marco’s df is way more powerful in terms of defense than jozu’s actually. if your haki is stronger than jozu’s his df won’t help him that much.
        and against aokiji’s df power and maybe kizaru’s jozu’s doesn’t offer that much defense either.

        marco on the other hand can heal himself from any kind of damage and he is the only one who has a df which even protects him from all kind of haki attacks.

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 12:22 am #

        If I remember correctly Aokiji couldn’t do shit to Jozu and Jozu has speed n powerful haki so it’s immpossible to find someone that has a stronger haki than him.

      • nickname - July 15, 2012 at 12:59 am #

        you seem to have a pretty bad memory then…..

        jozu lost his arm because aokiji froze him, that’s not what i would call “he couldn’t do shit to him”. jozu was distracted because of WB there but the only time jozu hit aokiji, aokiji was also distracted or unable to avoid his attack because of WB’s sword.

        and come on nobody has a stronger haki than jozu? how about shanks, garp or rayleigh? jozu’s haki is strong but there are still some ppl which mastered haki even better than jozu.

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 1:11 am #

        Lol they only hurt each other when they were distracted and yeah of course I know the legends n Yonkou’s probably has stronger haki than him, I didn’t mention them cuz I don’t think Jozu will go n fight a yonkou or any of the legends. Zehahaha

      • nickname - July 15, 2012 at 1:19 am #

        true but we were talking about the defense power of the dfs and not about who has the stronger haki.

        fact is marco’s df offers protection even against haki attacks and jozu’s doesn’t that is why i consider marco’s df in terms of defense superior to jozu’s and all other dfs we’ve seen so far.

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 1:32 am #

        But if you look at it logically Marco DF isn’t really a defense type because defense means when something is protected from getting harm, Marco DF doesn’t protect him from getting harm his DF heals his damage, his DF protects him after he has recieved the damage already, so Marco DF should be considered as a second class defense, while Jozu DF is a first class defense cuz his DF doesn’t allow any harm/damage to reach him. Zehahaha I think im thinking too much.

      • nickname - July 15, 2012 at 1:42 am #

        well i guess it depends on your definition on “defense” then.

        for me completely healing after receiving the damage is also defense but if you want to put them in two different classes you are free to do so.

      • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 1:49 am #

        Marco & Jozu have a totally different type of ‘Defense’. They’re in like 2 different type of categories.

        Jozu’s defense – He doesn’t get ‘damaged’, he got a total defense, like a STRONG (diamond) wall.

        Marco – he gets damage and you can inflict wounds to him but he will eventually heal them back…

        I like Jozu’s type of ‘defense’ better and I also wouldn’t mind Marco’s type of defense on some occasions.

      • Phoenix - July 15, 2012 at 2:03 am #

        With Haki, Jozu Defnse sucks

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 2:11 am #

        @phoenix nah it doesn’t suck cuz Jozu has haki too.

      • Han solo - July 15, 2012 at 2:53 am #

        You guys are idiots haki would work on Marco as well so you saying jozus defense sucks because of haki goes both ways

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 2:57 am #

        u should learn reading before talking a lot of crap

      • Phoenix - July 15, 2012 at 4:16 am #

        It all depends on the strength of his haki though

  11. dOPe - July 14, 2012 at 10:53 pm #

    Oh, and I didn’t mean that you needed haki to hurt him. I meant that, by using haki you can tamporarily touch a df eaters body, uneffected by his df. So if he’s a fire logia, for example, even tough due to his ability, his body transformed into fire. Using haki, u could still touch his actual, df-uneffected body. So in marcos case, by using haki, I tought, if he transforms into a pheonix, you could actually touch his “human” body, seperate from his df ability. And therefore damage dealt that way would not heal, because his df did not receive the damage itself. A pheonix can only heal his own body. Damage inflicted on itself. Using haki it would not have recieved that damage, but marco’s ” real body” which then could not heal.
    It’s just that i was not sure how haki effects zoan types, compared to logia types, since both types change your body.
    But then again, after marco get’s hit with a haki infused attack, his human body and his df- affected body are considered the same again, so I guess that he can heal himself again anyway.

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 14, 2012 at 11:22 pm #

      DevilFruit is not seperate, devilFruit and the user are one being so even if you hurt Marcos real body with haki he can just activate his DF n heal it.

    • nickname - July 14, 2012 at 11:39 pm #

      yup now you got it.

      like you said a haki attack hits his real body when he is in his zoan form but marco always regenrates AFTER he gets hit, by using his df power, that is the deciding factor why it doesn’t matter if you hurt marco’s real body or his zoan form.

      and i didn’t think you thought you would need haki to hurt marco, i just thought i’ll mention it.

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 12:36 am #

      Actually his kinda wrong cuz haki doesn’t nullify a devilFruit user, with haki you will be able to hit or damage the users DF which will affect him.

      • nickname - July 15, 2012 at 1:00 am #

        he never said haki nullifys a df user O.o

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 1:20 am #

        But he said with haki they would be able to damage Marco real body.

      • nickname - July 15, 2012 at 1:35 am #

        there is still a difference between touching his real body and nullifying him. most ppl believe that haki allows you to touch the df users real body but it doesn’t nullify his ability, which means the df user could still use his df powers to strike back and that’s not really wrong.

        when rayleigh explained how CoA works he said that CoA allows you to capture the logia user’s “substantial” body which most ppl equal with “real” body.

        you got a point though by saying haki attacks don’t hit the real ,or what you mean, the normal human body. if this would be the case akainu would have lost one half of his arm against shanks because he would have punched right in a sword then.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - July 15, 2012 at 4:36 am #

      actually marco does take damage and not just from haki, any attack damages marco but he just heals from it, like kizarus lasers they hit him and he recovered from them, but haki will bypass his df power so he wont be able to heal from it, otherwise how could he be defeated

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 5:30 am #

        Haki doesn’t nullify a persons devilFruit, haki can’t stop Marco from using his DF to heal that’s why they chained him with SEASTONE that’s the only way to defeat him.

      • Nidai Kitetsu - July 15, 2012 at 6:13 am #

        i never said nullify, i said bypass, theyre different words, they needed the seastone because marco has haki too.
        marcos ability is sort of like a logia, normal attacks dont work on him because he just heals from them, but a haki attack bypasses the df power and hits his actual body, akainu “healed” himself when he was hit by that cannonball so would marco. akainu(w/o haki) would get injured if the cannonball was infused with haki. same thing applies to marco

  12. big dick johnson - July 14, 2012 at 11:34 pm #

    testing***

    • big dick johnson - July 14, 2012 at 11:36 pm #

      mmm its not showing up.. damit -____-

    • big dick johnson - July 14, 2012 at 11:39 pm #

      ahh there it goes :D

    • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 12:40 am #

      I thought your avatar was Beel from Beezlebub for a sec…

      Damn Marimo.

      • big dick johnson - July 15, 2012 at 4:55 am #

        lmao that made my day. xD

        damm nosebleed xD

  13. dOPe - July 14, 2012 at 11:34 pm #

    That’s exactly what i concluded,(my last phrase)
    And i did not say, that they would be sepperated, they would just be looked at seperatly. Which I explained using ace’s df as an example. Its like a burger. Beef and bread are one thing, a burger. However you can also look at them as a piece of bread and a piece of beef, seperatly. And in the case of df you have to look at the body you can see, logia type fire eg., and the actual body, seperate. Since using haki enables the user to grasp a logia users ” actual body”. So his actual body and the one we see, and which is beeing affected by non haki attacks are 2 different thinks. Stil, a df eater does not posses 2 bodies.
    Well it’s kinda hard to explan since english is not my mothertonguexD

    • dOPe - July 14, 2012 at 11:36 pm #

      Arrrhhhhhhhhhhh, why do mY posts never get posted under the post i want toreply!!!!!!!!!

      • komori Ningen - July 14, 2012 at 11:42 pm #

        Fail
        This one got posted at the right place

      • dOPe - July 14, 2012 at 11:44 pm #

        That was a reply to dark_ritual

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 12:27 am #

      Haki makes you grab or hit a logias form not his actual body, haki doesn’t nullify a DF user. For example with haki you will be able to grab Ace fire but not his actual body and anything you do to the fire will affect him.

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 1:27 am #

        To make it clear once and for all. I never said anything that was different than what u,Dark Ritual, just said.
        Cos I wasn´t talking about what u said.
        I meant, that a person that punches a eg. fire logia type person, would normally inflict a ´certain amount of damage on him. But cos it´s a logia, he just punches through fire and gets burned. Haki enables him to extend the range of his damage into a 3rd dimension, or another level, if u wanna call it that way, which makes him able to hurt the logia user.
        What I had a problem with is saying, that haki makes you hurt a logia form itself, cos fire. ice, magma or light does not have any blood vessels, bones, muscles or skin, to be damaged. they´re all elemental, so by punching them, even if you can touch them now, you can´t just damage them, cos all you do is shift theyre atoms. And they don´t care, cos they don´t have a specific place they should stay at, like in a normal body. And they certainly don´t break apart.
        So haki must be able to inflict damage in a 3rd dimension, which can not be seen by ones eyes. And that´s only logical, since haki is not something physical, that can take on a form, weight and appearance.

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 1:29 am #

        it´s something that has to do with ur willpower

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 1:33 am #

        If u use haki to punch a logia user, u will be able to punch his body AS IF he did not have his logia ability. I seperated between the body u can punch without haki( nothing happens) and the one you punch with haki.

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 1:34 am #

        I´m prop goin to much into detail….xD

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 1:40 am #

        Hahaha finally you make a clear n wise explanation… And yeah after hitting a persons logia form the damage/pain will be transferred to that persons body just like magic lol. Haki is truly a mysterious thing.

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 1:44 am #

        You will only be able to punch his body if he doesn’t turn into his logia form but if he turns to his logia form you will still be able to punch his form not his body just like how Luffy grabbed smokers smoke form n CC gas form but not there body.

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 1:45 am #

        AHHHHHH……..finallyxD

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 1:51 am #

        yeah, I didn´t really make that clear. If you punch a logia user, who is not using his ability, u punch his body and he takes damage. If he´s in logia form, u punch his logia form and he takes damage. U don´t punch his actual body, since ur fist is not touching skin but eg. fire.
        by sayin punching his actual body, i actually meant, that u inflict damage on the user, AS IF u were punching his actual body.

  14. komori Ningen - July 14, 2012 at 11:39 pm #

    People have the right to believe in whatever they want whether it’s monotheism or atheism. You can even be polytheist, I won’t care.
    I believe in God and I think it’s more logical than the whole Big Bang theory
    For my part the “everything come from the infinity which is without beginning or end,who is in and everything” is more logical than “the universe was made out of an accident and now it’s expanding without logic creating Accidentally life and everything else”
    It’s weird that people consider the big bang theory as scientific because it does not make sense.
    I don’t know you but I refuse that life is just an accident

    • dOPe - July 14, 2012 at 11:45 pm #

      ?????? OK………..

      • zerolary - July 15, 2012 at 12:02 am #

        What was that for ?

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 1:57 am #

        Personally I like The Big Bang Theory. The sitcom.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - July 15, 2012 at 4:52 am #

      every1s a scientist now. if ur not a doctor how can u think you know better then they do about how best to treat a patient, if ur not an engineer how can u think you know better that they do about how to best design and build cities.
      your not a scientist, u didnt discover gravity, atoms, galaxies, stars and black holes, you didnt build the telescopes, powerplants, radiostations, computers, phones and the large hadron collider(which just the other day made another discovery supporting the big bang theory)

      if u have no understanding of how any of the science behind all this works how can u speak on the matter(pun intended).
      yes ur free to believe whatever you want, but stop questioning science if ur not willing to understand it

      • komori Ningen - July 15, 2012 at 11:52 am #

        Yeah you’re right, science discovers stuffs, a lot of useful stuffs but isn’t science theories against the idea of science itself ?
        I mean I don’t know much but I know that science is based on what is concrete and logical, you can’t emit theories if you don’t have concrete proofs to justify that theory.
        Theories like the big bang and the universe expansion are completely nonsense because they’re more based on imagination than they are based on proofs, for cases like this scientists are completely out of their league because it’s all about the matter of creation.
        And you well know that the thing that science can’t do is “create” as to make something out of absolutely nothing, everything that they do is modify what was already created.
        You can’t go all Lavoisier on me and say that nothing is created and nothing is lost, everything is transformed but even. In the energy equilibrium law there is loss, pretty contradictory.
        Not really logical

  15. Sidewinder - July 15, 2012 at 12:23 am #

    Was it mentioned before? Just a thought about the spoiler: Doflamingo changed from slavery to drugs – constant addiction makes you smile all around… maybe it will be revealed that the candy’s called “smilie”. So the “candy”-stuff will not be over after the PH-arc… we will get our own OP-war-on-drugs-arc… a bit boring, but possible… even more if I think further to big mum and her passion for sweets.

    Ok… candy (CC-drugs) to Big Mum is an obvious connection… but are there any other hints that the smilie-theme of the spoiler could fit here?

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 12:32 am #

      CC candies isn’t anything special but the candies are what CC made in order to make sure his test subjects(children) will never think of escaping. That’s the work of the candy a cage to hold the kids in.

    • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 12:51 am #

      I don’t think Donflamingo him self is interested in the drugs…CC is interested in those candy drugs because he wants to beat VP and he wants to be the first one to develop a drug that makes a normal human grow into a giant.

      @Dark, don’t be so sure. Those candies could be the drug it self that turns the kids into ‘addicts’ & giants and crazy when they don’t get the drugs..

      Candy contains = Drug to make people into giants, drug addicts and calms down the person when they start going crazy…

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 1:17 am #

        It’s not like the candy/drugs turn you into a mad rampaging addict giant over night. Zehahaha but still I don’t see how Donflamigo will be intrested in those candies.

      • Sidewinder - July 15, 2012 at 1:37 am #

        Yeah… was just a plain chain of associations… he changed his crime – so maybe from slavery to drugdealing.

        I found a panel in the chapter “Candy” (665), where chopper holds a test tube and you can see the silhouette of a child in the background of the tube which looks slightly like a marionette (association with Flamingo).

        It’s always easier to interprete those “signs” if you already know what has happened and can read ’em “backwards”. So just a prediction… but maybe I overlooked some signs associating Flamingo-Drugs-Smilies, so I ask… if there are any other pieces fitting into the predicted chain.

        I doubt that there’s absolutely no important connection between the candy and the arcs that will follow.

      • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 1:39 am #

        and I didn’t say anything about the candy “turning you into a mad rampaging addict giant OVER NIGHT”

        I’m just saying that the candy it self is the drug that is turning the kids into giants, addicts, and gives them anger management issues if they don’t get there candies.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - July 15, 2012 at 5:05 am #

      doflamingo isnt interested in the addictive factor, hes interested in creating giants, the addiction is what CC is using to keep the kids loyal and not run away

  16. Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 12:41 am #

    After Robin explained how haki really works this means that during the war Marco n Vista used haki to slash Akainu they really did damage to him cuz haki helps you hurt a persons logia form which will affect the person. Haki doesn’t nullify a DF user n makes you hit his real body it just helps you hit the persons logia form n cause damage.

    • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 1:42 am #

      yeah, thats basically what I meant, I just went more into detail. Plus, I should have said, that u Punch the logia body, however, the logia user takes the damage. maybe should have made that more clear.

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 1:59 am #

        Franky with a SEASTONE built in his left n right hand = awesome Franky, when he punches a logia he actually punches there real human body n we see blood run down there nose n they won’t go logia form if Franky is holding/touching them.

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 2:03 am #

        LOL,
        would be nice to see if there´s a parmecia, that makes one body transform into seastone xD

  17. MDL - July 15, 2012 at 1:56 am #

    Finished my day 13 of Insanity, it was pretty easy but I also start my 1000 incline push ups and 1000 sit ups a day today…

    • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 1:59 am #

      lol
      u know, u´ll burn more calories using full body exercises.

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 2:00 am #

        well i guess ur not really interested in burning calories if I look at how many situps ur planning to do^^

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 2:06 am #

      Lol p90x, insanity n so more don’t work on me cuz I will do it half way n quit lol im the type of person that workout when im competing with someone. Im already in shape/buff the way I want I just hit the gym up once or twice a week to stay in shape.

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 2:09 am #

      Lol who does 1000 sit ups n 1000 pushups a day??? Don’t tell me you do it everyday cuz Its immpossible.

      • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 2:13 am #

        @Dark A lot of people do 1000 sit ups and push ups…This is my first day of starting this thing, I hope I continue on it. I wouldn’t start insanity if I was gonna quit half way…then everything I’ve done would be a waste…

        @Dope

        I lose my calories from Insanity. I’m trying to get toned up and build more muscle with the push ups.

        I’m currently doing push ups right now…just finished 500…500 more.

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 2:13 am #

        i think he´s not doing them all at once. THAT would truly be impossible
        lol

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 2:15 am #

        oOK, IT IS possible just tried it out my self to check.

      • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 2:16 am #

        It’s INCLINE, not as hard as the real push ups…I wouldn’t even be able to do 200 normal push ups.

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 2:19 am #

        world record is over 10,000
        WOW, crazy Japanese ppl

      • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 2:21 am #

        10,000 normal push ups non-stop?

      • strawhatpirate10 - July 15, 2012 at 2:23 am #

        steroids???????????????

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 2:25 am #

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-up#Record_breakers_and_attempts

      • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 2:28 am #

        DAMN…

        46k push ups in 21 hours…strong people out there…I bet they’ve been doing push ups since they were just sperms.

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 2:30 am #

        Really, I feel extremely weak reading that….lol
        can´t even do more than 120. which was my record. Now it should be even less cos i haven´t been going to the gym for about 2 months……………

      • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 2:37 am #

        I think the gym is a waste of money…just save up and buy your self a weight bench and if you want to do cardio just run outside…

        I’m looking for a weight bench in Craigslist right now.

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 2:52 am #

        yeah, that´s the reason why I stopped. But it´s a bit boring doing it all on ur own at home. That´s why I almos only do Cardio, and sit-ups. and some exercises for my back. I was thinking about bying a weight bench myself. But I´m goin to move soon to study at university, and there I won´t have enough room for one. So i´ll just buy loose weights instead.

      • pirate king - July 15, 2012 at 3:25 am #

        Damn.. I came to the wrong place.. Can’t do more than 25 normal pushups..

    • O/\/3P|3C3 - July 15, 2012 at 3:49 am #

      If you get bored lol just play music while you work out. It actually helps, I do p90x with music keeps me from getting bored. Also you can just put in one Olof he insanity/p90x disc and watching them is like having a personal trainer lol. And I think you can buy a weight bench for 100 dollars at Walmart I think…

    • big dick johnson - July 15, 2012 at 4:53 am #

      sit ups shouldnt be a problem. unless you are big, and round. The sit ups could be a challange though.

      • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 5:26 am #

        You mean push ups?

        “The sit ups could be a challange though.”

      • big dick johnson - July 15, 2012 at 8:17 am #

        lol na for me sit ups are easy.

        push ups are hard cant do more than 2 reps of 30

  18. Riley Escobar - July 15, 2012 at 2:27 am #

    okay since everyone seems to be on about HAKI and DEFENSIVE DF’s

    CoA Haki is just said to be able to TOUCH or HURT a DF User NOT to NULIFY one (Thats the Seastones Job)

    DEFENSIVE DF’s :
    Jozu > YES his is a Defensive DF yet has FLAWS against HAKI users

    Marco > YES his is NOT as DEFENSIVE but a REGENERATION class DF and HAKI wouldnt affect him as much

    • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 2:33 am #

      Jozu – he also has Haki which he can use to protect him self from haki users and that person’s haki HAS to be STRONG…

      Marco – His regeneration DF has to have a limit…

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 2:47 am #

        MARCO:
        I think it might be possible, that his df does not have a real limit. But a limitation. Like he can only heal a certain amount of damage. anything that goes beyond is not going to heal. Or there is a time limit to it. Or there is no limit to the amount of damage he can heal, but the amount of times he can do so. Like only 10 times, regardless the amount of damage.

        Jozu:
        He has an extremely good defense against non haki users. If he´s fighting against haki users, he needs to use his haki to counter them. In a fight, I think marco´s df would be slightly more usefull. especcialy, cos it´s not a defense only ability. He can fly and stuff. maybe ha can even breath fire who knows. we haven´t seen that much of him. And i think he must have a lot more stuff up his sleeve than kicking witch his feet and flying around.

    • Riley Escobar - July 15, 2012 at 3:53 am #

      okay imma have to say that Jozu’s and Marco’s DF depends USEFUL on the OPPONENT as well THEMSELVES.

      JOZU’s DF would proove USEFUL in the 1ST HALF of the GRAND LINE if he didnt HAVE STRONG HAKI but with HAKI it makes him 1 ROUGH person to fight with UNLESS their HAKI is much STRONGER

      MARCO’s DF is USEFUL in its OWN RIGHT but it wouldnt be the BEST DEFENSIVE as its DF must have its OWN LIMITS to what it CAN and CANT to as it REALLY is a REGENERATIVE DF so its a HEALING one but there HAS to be some LIMITS to it

      If there was a say Jozu Vs. Marco in a BATTLE of DF’s it would be a CLOSE BATTLE as it would DEPEND on Who’s got the STRONGER HAKI and ENDURANCE between the two

    • Nidai Kitetsu - July 15, 2012 at 5:15 am #

      i dont think marco can heal if hit with haki(disregarding his own haki) he can regenerate from any attack because of his df but if the df is bypassed and the user is hit directly he cant heal from that, otherwise garps punch wouldnt have had as much impact and he would be too powerful, short of being dismembered with haki he would be unbeatable

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 5:41 am #

        Even with haki he heals from it, he healed immediately from Garps punch, they said Marco weakness is that he has a limit to his healing ability. I will say it again haki doesn’t nullify a persons DF haki cant stop anyone from using his DF only SEASTONE does that

      • Nidai Kitetsu - July 15, 2012 at 6:05 am #

        i never said it nullified his df power, i said it bypassed it, we dont know if he healed or not, garp didnt punch a hole in him so we couldnt actually see him heal from it like we did from kizarus lasers. no1 said marocs weakness was a limit it was suggested here.

        btw seastone doesnt fully nullify df powers either, like luffy can still stretch like we saw in the arlong arc, so it supresses the users ability to use it

      • dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 2:46 pm #

        We already had that discussion. After marco gets hit with an haki attack, he heals again. Justlike after he gets his seastone cuffs taken off, he can heal his wounds again. It doesn’t matter if you bypass his df ability, cos after tne attack his df is being uneffected again. Even if u nullify his ability he will eventuallyheal if the effect stops.

  19. Riley Escobar - July 15, 2012 at 2:33 am #

    And back to the point i wanted to talk about:
    – tbh i dont really know but i dont see D.F much interested in WHAT cc DOES but what he has to OFFER is the question? Basically what does CC offer in return for D.F’s safeguard

    – Within this Arc we have seen many real life situations as such as Abduction, Deception, Drug Usage, Multiple Kidnaping, Illegal Brokers (Illegal Contract), Weopan Of Mass Destruction and theres bound to be MORE

    – We Still are learning about the NW yet D.F out of the Schichubukai as well as Kuma and Mihawk (other than LAW) seem to be the MYSTERIOUS caliber of the LOT so we would be seeing MUCH more of them LATER ON (We aint really seen MUCH of them and their individual traits)

    – ALSO within this ARC i would LIKE to See as we are SEEING another member of the SUPERNOVA (Kidd), Schichubukai, Marines and WG and Members of Yonkou (Underlings) … I would like to add How about adding another Yonkou underling say Kaidou’s Underling who’s just watching/spying and nothing more as he sees Big Mom’s underlings and wont take ACTION and another SUPERNOVA like from PREVIOUS Generation OR say Caribou to the mix

    – There also seems MORE to it as why would CC want to make them kids become GIANTS and as he HIGHLY values them

    • Nidai Kitetsu - July 15, 2012 at 5:21 am #

      the giants thing is probably what CC is doing for doflamingo, which is why vergo is changing reports of lost kids, smiley and everything else seems to be CC’s own side projects, otherwise he wouldnt have offered smiley to the other underworld brokers

      • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 5:30 am #

        Na, CC is making a drug to make normal humans into giants just because of his pride. He wants to beat VP by making the drugs for it FIRST, because making normal humans into giants had been researched for a long time by the WG/VP

      • Nidai Kitetsu - July 15, 2012 at 5:59 am #

        i dont think CC cares about giants personally, he went back to PH for smiley that is his pride, which his selling off to the highest bidder, so if doflamingo is helping CC out what is he getting in return? CCs focus is on WMDs and specifically those that use gas.
        if CC experiments on his henchmen why does he need the children? which means he doesnt need vergo or doflamingo to research giants but if doflamingo wanted to make giants and provided him with test subjects then that makes sense, of course doflamingo probably told CC that VP was working on that too to get him motivated

      • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 7:10 am #

        CC ALREADY knew that VP was working on finding a drug to make normal humans into giants. CC & VP used to work together…

  20. dOPe - July 15, 2012 at 3:02 am #

    Well, I´m goin to hit my pillow now… ZzzzzzzzzzzzZZzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzz

  21. big dick johnson - July 15, 2012 at 4:54 am #

    Frankys new weapons seemed much more epic in the episode than in the chapter? or was it just me? lol

    • MDL - July 15, 2012 at 5:32 am #

      Yeah they were but I still hate the slow pacing…took like 15mins just for the 2 weapons to get out the ship, and the rest of the episode just for Luffy to get on Surume’s back…

      • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 5:45 am #

        Lol waiting for an episode every week then you finally watch it of course it’s gonna be slow to you, do like me wait for 3 weeks n watch 3 episodes at once then you see the episodes aren’t short or slow.

    • Dark_Ritual_Us - July 15, 2012 at 5:48 am #

      Everything in this episode was awesome n way better than the manga. Brook party dance, robin giant legs, Franky weapons, surume everything was just awesome n epic.

    • big dick johnson - July 15, 2012 at 8:12 am #

      lol but i enjoyed every minute of the weapon showing it was epic

  22. big dick johnson - July 15, 2012 at 4:56 am #

    no one here has an avatar of sanji???

    • strawhatpirate10 - July 15, 2012 at 5:19 am #

      i just got one

      • Nidai Kitetsu - July 15, 2012 at 6:16 am #

        now the 2 of u have to argue and bicker about stupid things :) lol

      • big dick johnson - July 15, 2012 at 8:16 am #

        who invited the shitty cook?

    • Nidai Kitetsu - July 15, 2012 at 5:28 am #

      i have an avatar that includes sanji does that count? lol

    • big dick johnson - July 15, 2012 at 8:10 am #

      lol no

  23. MDL - July 15, 2012 at 7:23 am #

    :cm:

    • strawhatpirate10 - July 15, 2012 at 7:40 am #

      ?

      • big dick johnson - July 15, 2012 at 8:11 am #

        damm nosebleed. with your idiotic kicking skills

      • strawhatpirate10 - July 15, 2012 at 8:55 am #

        shitty marimo swordsman

  24. komori Ningen - July 15, 2012 at 12:33 pm #

    Doflamingo sure is good at business
    So he took CC in and gave him the fund to continue his researches to create the ultimate mass destruction weapon
    Now that it’s operational, he’s just advertising it on line, to every criminal in the new world.
    This guy sure knows how to make money