BLEACH ブリーチ ネタバレ 515 Spoiler

2012 November 5

Bleach 515 Spoilers: The last chapter end with the It’s Juhabach call Ichigo his son…born in darkness…! So what happens next..? find out story on BLEACH 515 Spoiler ブリーチ ネタバレ 第515話 at if you would like to discuss the Spoilers or predictions, please leave a comment below.

Bleach 515 Spoilers Summaries

Souce: 2ch
Trans: Sheetz

Unohana and her subordinates heal the wounded.
Byakuya and Kenpachi are still alive but they won’t be able to be captain.

The 4th Division is busy healing everyone, Isane is devastated, unohana gave her her consolation, isane cries, it seems like yamaji gave the 4th division some final orders.

Shinji and ichigo went to see rukia and renji, they are both healing.

in the 1st division camp, everyone is deciding how to deal with yamaji’s body

someone stormed into the camp, saying that

BYAKUKYA and KEMPACHI SURVIVED, but doubted they can every resume their duties as captain, they might not even come back to their senses anymore

Credit: kaze ?
Verification: Fake
Trans : RUN

Ichigo look at juha bach leave soul society
unohara come and heal all the injures
zero squad in another dimension assemble
the person who cut that quincey was aizen
aizen told urahara, you din expect it was me right?

Bleach 515 Trivia: Ichigo claims that his name comes from: ichi for first prize and go for guardian angel, although his father told him that his name means “he who protects.”

838 Responses to “BLEACH ブリーチ ネタバレ 515 Spoiler”

  1. AvatarShawn9169 - November 9, 2012 at 12:43 am #

    Anyone Here read/watch Seikon No Qwaser AKA Qwaser of Stigmata?

  2. MightyM - November 9, 2012 at 4:21 am #

    Is the blut part of the new techniques? If so, is Ichigo a descendent of those that followed the other path than the Ishidas? If not, why the hell doesn’t Uryu know it or at least let himself get beat up like a pussy all these chapters. If Ishida was as good as these Vandenreich guys, he would have mopped the floor with the Espada instead of taking the back seat like Krillin, Tien or Piccolo.

    • AvatarShawn9169 - November 9, 2012 at 4:37 am #

      I dont thinks so i just think Ishidas Grandpa dying throwed a wrench into his trianing and his dad doesn’t wish to help him any more than he has too so its safe to say Uryu got trolled see below for more details on waht i mean

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 2:49 pm #

        thats true. but it doesn’t change the fact Uryu has been trolled in battle. And lets blame it on the father XD

        The one thing don’t like about Ichigo becoming a quincy is that it takes away Uryu’s character. but at the same time, Ichigo would be like an embodiment of the intermarriage between soul reapers and quincies, so it makes you think Ichigo is the right person to bring peace and understanding.

      • jennatalia - November 9, 2012 at 3:21 pm #

        He’s probably not the first, but I don’t think Ichigo will grasp all of the Quincy techniques.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 4:34 pm #

        yeah, its Kubo afterall, Ichigo’s powers are always ‘enhanced speed, defense and power’ and getsuga tensho. I can’t see him learning actual battl techniques like kido or that renga tensei (can’t remember what it was called).

      • Kaido - November 10, 2012 at 8:20 pm #

        It’s called Ransotengai

  3. AvatarShawn9169 - November 9, 2012 at 4:34 am #

    The True Troll King Juhabach – November 8, 2012 at 5:05 pm #
    Ishida had 2 years of the timeskip and hadn’t developed at all.


    [Naruto no_1 fan reloaded] – November 8, 2012 at 5:09 pm #
    Yet Kierge said that Ishida Uryuu was far stronger than himself!

    AvatarShawn9169 – November 8, 2012 at 9:08 pm #
    but he isn’t the reason why Ishida is weak when he shouldn’t be is BC he hasn’t learned any advance techniques or his true abilites basically up till now we thought all quinceys power were the same u know bow’s arrow’s Etc but with this arc we have seen that each quincy has a letter witch resymbol there unquie powers like Kirges Jail or Lyods Yourself tranformation’s Uyru hasn’t showed anything unquie and maybe the reason why is BC he doesn’t know he has anything in a way Uryu is like a vary skilled Shingami without his Shikai like Yoruichi she has been shown to be obiously captain level in all skills but has never revieled her shikai Uryu is the same way he has shown Stern Ritter level skills but no letter based abilites even more so though Kirge has the ability to use blut arterie to boost his attack power and blut vien to block sword attacks i’d say if Uryu had just them 2 bluts he probally be able to defeat Kirge himself bc i think if kirge didn’t use Blut A to boost his arrows they would be weaker than Uryus thats why kirge said Uyru being weaker than him was immpossible

    • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 2:32 pm #

      I’ve already made a reply to Narutofan, go back to the original source :)

      • [Naruto no_1 fan reloaded] - November 10, 2012 at 4:13 am #

        @ troll

        your reply was dumb.

      • [Naruto no_1 fan reloaded] - November 10, 2012 at 4:20 am #

        @ Avatar

        I don’t really think that Ishida is also associated with a letter or something, I believe it applies only to the stern ritters. I think that they were given a letter which best reflect their ability. Though I agree that Ishida might have a unique ability himself just like the stern ritters.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 10, 2012 at 1:42 pm #

        It was a witty comment. Learn to use common sense.

      • AvatarShawn9169 - November 11, 2012 at 2:17 am #

        @Naruto no_1 fan reloaded yes i agree the letter are only assocated with the SR but so far its the only form of Identification of ability that we know of for that it really doesn’t have a name yet like shinigami’s shikai or arrancars reserriction or a fullbringers fullbring thats why i refered to it as such and speaking of witch what kind of ability do u expect Ryuken or uryu to have?

  4. Darksnow - November 9, 2012 at 7:46 am #

    so end of the day the quincies retreated with more casualties than the shingamis if we consider only the main strong characters like captains & sternritters…lol:D

    • Ro - November 9, 2012 at 8:43 am #


    • Roby - November 9, 2012 at 8:44 am #

      I hate this board system!
      When did I “lol” last time?! a month ago!?

      By the way:
      @Darksnow: LOL

      • Brandon - November 9, 2012 at 8:46 am #

        You can always decide to have a chat with some others at OC…


      • Roby - November 9, 2012 at 9:06 am #

        uh? :) what’s that?

      • Brandon - November 9, 2012 at 9:28 am #

        It’s a forum in which we (sometimes) also discuss manga amongst other things…

      • Zeref - November 9, 2012 at 10:11 am #

        @Brandy you’re advertising???xD

      • Brandon - November 9, 2012 at 10:16 am #


      • Zeref - November 9, 2012 at 10:24 am #

        lol i thought Titus was incharge of doing that….:-p

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 11:54 am #

        I haven’t been on it in ages,keep forgetting to

      • Monkey D. Natsu - November 9, 2012 at 12:03 pm #

        I only use it for One Piece and the drawing thing.

      • Brandon - November 9, 2012 at 12:04 pm #

        I actually enjoy staying at the community there… plus, personal talk and such can be done without bothering others ;)

      • Monkey D. Natsu - November 9, 2012 at 12:08 pm #

        I like the simplicity of here, it overrides the trolls and spammers on here.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 12:16 pm #

        yeah, and its easy to login. OC has slower loading times and I can’t get the OC cookies working like on facebook and other sites.

      • Brandon - November 9, 2012 at 12:28 pm #


        You should really consider using another browser then… IE10, Firefox and Chrome do not give me those troubles at all… Both OC and Mangaspoiler give me 5s to load…


        What I like about here is the open community and the fact that you can speculate more… what I dislike up here is the fact that trivial things (such as this sadly) do also take a huge portion away of the spoiler page, which results in people’s comments getting lost… Plus, a forum with mods tends to take care of trolls and spammers, which in the past has been a reason for me not to come here anymore, since the notorious Uchiha was all over the place…

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 2:41 pm #

        but now we have another Uchiha all over the naruto section XD

        but still, I don’t mind off topic stuff from time to time like the Obama talk, video games, and other discussions that would interest people here.

        I make a lot of discussion on manga, but somehow find myself talking about other things lmao, I don’t like it when posts get buried though but on OC things bury quickly because there are less posts per page and each comment takes up more space than needed on silly things like signitures, etc whereas here its easier to find your comments. If you typed one sentence on OC, it would take 10x the space because of trivial stuff like sigs.

      • Brandon - November 9, 2012 at 2:51 pm #

        Here you get burried as well… I already said that… it’s because people keep talking about trivial things… Take this page for example… you see that the trivial talk actually takes more time/comments than the on-topic stuff…

        Not just Obama, but specifically asking people about their lifes e.g. That’s the kind of stuff that you actually can better discuss on a social network instead of this site…

        A lot of the old(er) people from this site that I knew have left because there wasn’t any debatting about the manga, it was just talk about the birds and the bees and actually on-topic stuff got neglected… There was also a site-crash in the summer of “11, which made sure many never returned…

        Right now things are fine at this site, but remember, I have been here since 2010… things don’t stay like this because of the open format…

        All I am saying is that both sides have their ups and downs… There is never a better system since perfect only exists in books…

      • Uchiha Shisui - November 9, 2012 at 2:53 pm #

        @troll r u trying to disrespect my clan? da elite uchiha? we’ll murder u!! (talking through kami)

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 3:05 pm #

        oh yh I remember the server crash. I wasn’t able to get on here for a while because of that.

        but yeah, your right, asking about people’s lives here seems kinda pointless if it can be done via ps3 or OC. i usually do that kinda talk with Jonas and others when on the ps3.

        I try not to say ‘bye’ to people often, I only say it when I’ve been having too many discussions to the point that people need to know I’ve gone off. I was out for an hour just now.

  5. jennatalia - November 9, 2012 at 2:11 pm #

    Ichigo returns to the world of the living and has to train Uryu on the Quincy techniques. Unfortunately, I don’t think Ichigo even realized he was using the blut technique, so maybe not.

    • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 2:45 pm #

      Ichigo never learns techiques. His heritage seems so pointless when he can’t fight much. Its a shame, no kido, no control over hollow form second state, no signiture fullbring abilities, and now no quincy techniques that he knows.

      I reckon he will figure out how blut vene works on his own, but other than that he only has getsuga tensho and can power up. Thats all Ichigo can do.

      • Bushogoma - November 9, 2012 at 3:25 pm #

        Since Ichigo is an all rounder in-terms of bloodline, this clearly makes him ‘Jack of all trades and master of non’.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 4:37 pm #

        which sucks for the main character. It doesn’t take so long to just learn a technique, but no, with Ichigo he will only bother if it makes his raw power better.

        Jack of all trades are good earlier on, but in SJ manga they should master towards the end. He has only mastered his zanpacktou by the looks of things, but not any other soul reaper powers.

      • Brandon - November 9, 2012 at 5:12 pm #


        Ichigo has only ‘recently’ unlocked his powers… the only thing he /can/ do is a couple of getsuga variations and sprint… is that really that lame?

        I mean he didn’t have over 100 years of training now did he? And if he were to pull techniques out of his ass, making him vastly more overpowered than he already is, would you be sattisfied then? No, because then Ichigo “is way too overpowered”…

        As long as he doesn’t get proper technique training I am fine with him having one attack… Kido would ruin his “manly” swordsmanship and he only recently found out he’s a Quincy so I am fine with him not knowing every Quincy technique…

        Besides, there are countless of manga where a character only relies/uses one attack… Naruto for instance… sure he’s got some modes, but he never uses anything besides Kage Bunshi and Rasengan… Goku pretty much relies on kamehameha for quick damage etc.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 6:02 pm #

        Besides Getsuga all he has are enhancements like FB, Blut vene and hollowification. He doesn’t know cero, and all that stuff most people of that race would know. Its like his skin is getting tougher and he is randomly fast enough to fight current arc villains. Thats how its always been. Heck even his bankai is just an enhancement +getsuga tensho.

        Naruto has waaaaaaaaay more, lots of jutsus +sage mode for accessing certain jutsu and kyuubi mode which I guess is an enhancement but it gives you more jutsus too.

        Ichigo cannot be compared to Naruto.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 6:05 pm #

        Goku is old, that was back in the day a battle manga could have low standards. But yet even Goku is better than Ichigo. He has instant transmission=flash step, kaioken/super saiyan=enhancements, kamehameha=getsuga but better, spirit bomb on top with extension pole, random ki blasts, flying nimbus, and best of all, his battle prowess is better than Ichigo’s. Ichigo doesn’t train enough compared to Naruto and Goku unless its to get steroids (hollow taming, bankai, fullbring, regain powers)

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 6:06 pm #

        Also Goku had plenty of variations. Such as being able to power up kamehameha, control its directions, etc

      • Brandon - November 9, 2012 at 6:41 pm #


        Ichigo is still nothing more than a shinigami… His fullbring powers was just his sword and his speed… surprised?

        Hollow mask was pretty much just a power boost, and again he wasn’t trained in firing cero’s or anything…

        Again, Quincy powers… just discovered… you want him to spawn a bow and oblitirate the enemy at this point?

        Again, it makes no sense for him to have all crazy powers and stuff, because he would’ve pulled them out of thin air… He was never trained to utilise any power properly because of he wanted to rush in every fight… And please, him having Kido would be the absolute worst…

        And no, Naruto does not have more powers… much like you say about Ichigo having enhancements, so has Naruto… Maybe you should look besides sage/kyuubi mode and realise his package of attacks still include the ones of 4 years ago… even in those 2 modes…

      • Brandon - November 9, 2012 at 6:48 pm #

        To add… what good will new techniques bring?

        Will it make him stronger, or will it just add some flashyness to his appearence…

        Why would you try and learn new tricks if you cannot master the old one to the fullest?

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 7:46 pm #

        because its more simplitic than DBZ if it was simply:
        Gotta train harder and become stronger to defeat the new OP villain
        Hero becomes physically stronger
        Hero vs Villain
        Hero wins using the same moveset but was able to keep up with the villain because of yet again improved Godly speed.

        Seriouly, when will speed ever be enough, characters have always looked fast since Yorouchi’s flash stepping, but apparently Aizen vs Ichigo was on another level offast?
        I feel its pointless to keep that same enhancement formula going when we could go by variations like DB did to an extent (until Frieza saga) and Naruto or One Piece.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 7:50 pm #

        I don’t know how that last comment I made got posted before I finished but:

        Yes techniques make it flashier, the hero should be flashy. Besides, his enhancements have always looked flashier so your contradicting your own logic ‘Will it make him stronger, or will it just add some flashyness to his appearence…’.

        I explained why kyuubi and sage mode is more than just a mere enhancement, fine you can criticise it but at least its less of an enhancement than Ichigo’s and has more varitions like frog kumite, throwing rasenshurikens, bjuu dama.
        Rasengan variations are like the kamehameha variations you get. Getsuga tensho has no variations.

      • Brandon - November 10, 2012 at 4:08 am #

        “Getsuga Tenshou has no variations”

        Really now?

        White/black, projectile, compressed sword tip…


      • Brandon - November 10, 2012 at 4:12 am #

        And you really think he /should/ gain new techniques?

        Like “Oh this technique is another black wavy line that can surely cut through blut even though you probably did that already with Shas”

        If he were to learn new techniques, he has gotta master them… meaning immense training of field experience… But now it’s war, he doesn’t have time to sit idle and watch the enemy crushes all that’s dear to him just so he can do another black ink attack…

        Wake up, it’s not about techniques… it’s about how one uses them…

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 10, 2012 at 1:40 pm #

        I don’t see how thats relevant.

        Black and White variations? Thats like saying black and white people are different in the inside. But in reality black and white people have different skin colour and thats it. This logic is the same with white/black getsuga. I didn’t forget abou this so called white getsuga, I never considered it a variation because its the same thing. Density is a joke, when has Ichigo’s attacks been dense when fighting opponents? the only time he slices things clean off is when he destroys buildings. There is no notable difference.

        So what if its war, when isn’t Ichigo training during a war? He trained when he needed to save Rukia in a limited amount of time, he trained for bankai at the time in which he was in enemy territory, he trained FGT when he was in the dangai/in his mind while Aizen was trying to kill his friends, Ichigo even trained when he was fighting Kenpachi in his mind with Zangetsu. And do not forget Ichigo’s training when Tsukishima was out to get him.
        You can’t deny that Ichigo will train during a war. This is Bleach, even Naruto had training during the war and when Konoha was being destroyed.
        He mastered FGT, he can master other things too. There are short cuts too, when haven’t there been shortcuts in training when the manga revolves around teenagers rather than training for 20 years and turning into an old man just to beat someone.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 10, 2012 at 1:48 pm #

        I hate to break it to you but I’m beginning to think your last comment is being biased.
        You criticise Naruto’s rasengan variations but acknowledge Getsuga ‘variations’. The rasengan and odama rasengan are similar to getsuga’s trivial density variations. However rasenhurikens and shooting bjuu ball is different to rasengan. One is melee, the other is long distance.

      • Brandon - November 10, 2012 at 2:58 pm #

        The black variation is said to be stronger when he fought Byakuya… his words, not mine… They were heavier…

        But, to stay on topic, it’s about Ichigo having only a couple techniques, which was clearly enough to beat Quincies if you look at Kirge and Shaz…

        I don’t know which manga you’ve been reading, but there are only a couple of people which bankais haven’t been an enhancement of their main ability… in Ichigo’s case speed and a stronger Getsuga…

        Byakuya had Kido, sure, but Ichigo is likely as good in kido as Renji is… But besides kido, Byakuya had no other ability besides the little blades… even that ‘dome’ ability was just a pure power enhancement…

        The Vizards only were stronger with a mask than without it… besides some Ceros it didn’t change much, again Ichigo isn’t trained to do so… But even the Vizards didn’t gain any ‘new’ ability besides their own…

        Fullbringer powers… pwahahaaha

        Quincy techs, just discovered… he is not gonna learn them by memory ofcourse…

        So can you please explain to me with some proper feedback why Ichigo needs a new technique? Because:

        – He /can/ win against Quincies
        – He /can/ win against Arrancars
        – He /can/ win against other Shinigamies

        And he does it all with his current abilities… Or do you think there’s/want someone who has enough power to train him to get another Deus Ex Machina nuke attack?

        Ichigo has speed, a projectile based attack, which he can compress in the top of his sword, reflexes, a good sword hand and determination to get stronger… He lacks nothing compared to other people in this manga, besides experience…

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 10, 2012 at 3:16 pm #

        because the ending is nearing so Ichigo should master his stuff, especially when facing Juhabach and Haschwald. Also its a waste of his heritage if he isn’t using much of his potential. Ichigo has too much potential but used little of it so far.

        Bankais are usually more than just an enhancement, Soi Fon on the otherhand lol.
        However Ichigo is merely an enhancement, thats it.

    • MightyM - November 9, 2012 at 11:41 pm #

      Ichigo couldn’t train his way out of a paper bag. He barely knows anything. He learns a technique and then uses it over and over again in hopes that it will get stronger somehow. What’s that old saying about futility? That explains Ichigo.

      • anonymous - November 11, 2012 at 11:54 am #

        even renji has more bankai zanpaktou techniques than ichigo SMH

      • James - November 11, 2012 at 12:36 pm #

        And Soifon’s bankai only does one thing… it explodes. Each persons bankai is different… some bankai’s are just more versatile than others.

        Ichigo’s bankai atm is already pretty impressive… and his bankai isn’t one that relies on techniques… the whole purpose of his bankai was to make him faster… and according to Yama… his bankai is still immature as well.

  6. [Naruto no_1 fan reloaded] - November 9, 2012 at 5:38 pm #

    Ishida in his final form could easily take out Mayuri. In fact he destroyed Mayuri’s bankai with only one arrow. Kierge was never at that level when he released his volstandig. I thank that Ishida has hidden potential and maybe that’s the reason why Kierge said that there’s no way Ishida is weaker than himself.

    In addition, Ichigo did overpower Kierge but he couldn’t beat Kierge’s Jail, so I’d say that the match was a draw since Ichigo wouldn’t have been able to do anything without outside interference.

    • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 5:58 pm #

      he got owned by Syazzel Apporro, ever since I gave up on him being strong. it didn’t help when Tsukishima and Ginjo took him out easily

      • [Naruto no_1 fan reloaded] - November 9, 2012 at 6:16 pm #

        Nonetheless Ishida isn’t weak. Ishida will make his comeback in this arc, at least this is what I believe.

      • jennatalia - November 9, 2012 at 6:28 pm #

        If Ishida learns what the other Quincies know, he still won’t be as powerful as Juha, but could definitely be on par with a captain. Kurotsuchi got careless and deserved his defeat. Ichigo, on the other hand, should be on a close level with Juha.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 6:35 pm #

        Ichigo cannot defeat Juhabach if he doesn’t start learning techniques. Most of Ichigo’s rivals have been merely raw hack and slashers but now he is up against someone who whores out actual techniques.

      • jennatalia - November 9, 2012 at 6:51 pm #

        It also seems that Quincy techniques don’t work so well on Quincies.

      • Brandon - November 9, 2012 at 6:53 pm #

        Blut /did/ stop a blade though

      • [Naruto no_1 fan reloaded] - November 9, 2012 at 7:12 pm #

        Imo Kurotsuchi was completely overwhelmed. It wasn’t carelessness but ignorance that caused his defeat. He didn’t know that Ishida could have activated such a technique. In that mode Ishida might be on par with Juha I think since he instead of using his own reishi or reiatsu was absorbing the spirit particles from SS and in the process causing things that were made of spirit particle to disappear.

        If Ishida can use that mode without limit I’d rank him near Juha in terms of power level.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 9, 2012 at 7:55 pm #

        @Jenatalia I think that only applies to Kirge’s jail, its like when Grimmjow sealed Ulqiourra with that espada technique. It was meant to banish hollows but not fellow espada hence the temporal effect it had on Ulquiorra.
        But I can’t say for sure on that, maybe quincies can’t use many techniques on one another.

        I felt the quincies seemed OP with voltstanding and stuff at first but now they don’t seem as dangerous considering only 2 luitenants and 1 CC was killed during the ambush on SS. It could’ve been way worse with abilities like that. I’m talking about at least half of gotei captains/luitenants dying. I thought the captains could get absorbed by the voltstanding. I’m confused on how voltstanding even works.

      • TriAce - November 10, 2012 at 7:10 am #

        The thing about it ie Ishida is human he’s always been praised for the most part about to speed,intelligence, his techniques, but what you all should realize is Ishida has grown in every passing arc and he’s done it all by himself no one had EVER trained him. Chad and Orihime were trained by Yurorichi and even Renji Ichigo was trained by Yurorichi,Urahara,Vidzard, and the Full bring users I’d say Ishida has done damn well under those circumstance. But with his Quincy finely from that he used in Mayuri was incomplete and he easily overpowered a Captain shot though him,his Bankai, and destroyed his zanpukto that’s with an incomplete Quincy final form and none of there Techs. He has the potential to be just as powerful as Ichigo since he’s WAY smarter then Ichigo. With his given intelligence complete Quincy final form Blut holy slave and whatever his ability maybe he shouldn’t have a problem being stronger then all the gotei 13. Plus I have an assumption that since the Quincy only known weakness to Blut is that the attack and defense forms can’t be used simultaneously I’m assuming it’ll be Ishida to be able to use the both at once making him the perfect Quincy

        Any opinions?

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 10, 2012 at 1:55 pm #

        that argument makes sense to me. I’ve lost faith in Ishida because of the Syazzel and Fullbring arc. He never developed since and he had 2 years in the fullbring arc but got owned so easily and twice (unguarded and guarded). Ishida was fodder. He also did nothing against Ginjo but observe, he is falling into Urahara’s level in a way with his analysis rather than fighting style, I really liked Ishida’s character back in the day, he had so much potential.

        But when you make it sound like Ishida can train in a short period and surpass quinciess, I think it makes sense. I really hope you’re right. I mean we have kiddiesh OP quincies like Bambietta Basterbine, yet Ishida seems to be a special quincy. Although if he had a special heritage then I wonder why his grandpa was killed by mere hollows (like Masaki was). I wonder if the vandenreich were responsible for grandpa Ishida and Masaki’s death.

      • Kaido - November 11, 2012 at 9:28 pm #

        How is Ichigo on a close level to Juha? He defeated Ichigo twice without doing much. If it wasn’t for Aizen’s time manipulation, Ichigo would’ve been defeated/killed and then brought to Vandenreich to be reeducated

    • jake - November 10, 2012 at 1:56 pm #

      Uryuu Ishida ftw. I believe he is one of the war potentials. His final form was truly epic and fucked up Mayuri. I hated to see Mayuri lose like this cause he is one of my favorite captains but damn! Uryu was powerful as fuck in this form and I believe at that particular moment he could take on every captain there is (excluding CC). I believe he will show up again with new techniques and powers (maybe blut?).

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 10, 2012 at 1:59 pm #

        I’m wondering why no one used Voltstanding in SS, surely that would’ve f***ed them up 100fold

      • TriAce - November 10, 2012 at 11:25 pm #

        All so true or maybe only a select few can use it? But these Quincy rely on stealing Bankai which Uryuu used only his quincy power to easily overpower a captain.

      • AvatarShawn9169 - November 11, 2012 at 2:22 am #

        that old man with the guns did use Voltstanding but only for a minute

  7. MightyM - November 10, 2012 at 3:23 am #

    Until next week…

  8. kakarot - November 10, 2012 at 1:38 pm #

    -when shinigami died their swords disappeared, that happened on the diamond dust rebellion when kusaka died his zanpakuto disappeared but this didn’t happen when cc died his zanpakuto found , Is it mean that cc doesn’t die , I know that he destroyed by Juhabach with one hit and one finger . will kudo revival him with any method to tell cotei 13 about war that happened from 1000 years , i think that happened if no body in cotei 13 knew about this war and if zero division won’t appear .
    -Isshin lost his power from 20 years according what Urahara said
    the reason he lost it is FGT OR give his power to ichigo to live
    OR he was captain on cotei 13 or zero division he made something bad that made the Central 46 was sentenced at him to be stripped of his Shinigami powers and exiled to the Human World then he met ichigo’s mother and married her

    • jake - November 10, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

      The diamond dust rebellion was a movie and not canon.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 10, 2012 at 1:57 pm #

        the funny thing about Kubo’s influence in writing is that filler and anime drawing styles (Masashi Kudoh) actually impacted his future work.

        The character designer for the anime (Kudoh) used a different style to early Bleach manga, Kubo admitted in an interview that his style changed as it was influences by the anime. Some mangakas like Kubo and Mashima get influenced by the anime adaptations unlike Kishimoto.

  9. jake - November 10, 2012 at 1:58 pm #

    Let’s hope that the next chapter is going to be good and makes the story progress. I wanna learn more about Ichigo’s family past. I also want to see in the condition Zaraki and Byakuya are in right now. Maybe they are so fucked up that they don’t even remember who they are or what happened. Can’t wait for next chapter for aizen’s sake!

    • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 10, 2012 at 2:00 pm #

      Even though its going to be a long arc like the arrancar arc, the difference is that the arrancar arc was boring and lack progression/filling plotholes whereas this arc has it. However in exchange for progression, we have skipped fights.

      • AvatarShawn9169 - November 11, 2012 at 2:24 am #

        yes though this arc is sappose to be twice as long as the Arrancar arc and is sappose to fill in all the plot holes

  10. The True Troll King Juhabach - November 10, 2012 at 5:32 pm #

    does anyone here find it weird how Yama was defeated? he got owned too easily. Remember when Aizen sealed Yama’s zanpacktou abilities yet was able to fight still. But when Juhabach sealed Yama’s bankai (more like Yama gave it to him), he got slashed without putting up a fight. Its like Yama said ‘Hey, here is my bankai, take it. I’ll stand still and make it easy for you to slice me clean’.

    Kubo is always for realistic battles, but this was just… unrealistic.

    Also anyone notice how everyone who challenge Yama always try to seal his zanpacktou (Amagai, Aizen, quincies)

    • Niko - November 10, 2012 at 5:53 pm #

      Yamamoto was still thinking that his sword cannot be sealed, just like Ichigo’s.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 10, 2012 at 6:14 pm #

        this is why I think Juhabach is a greater troll than Aizen

      • Bushogoma - November 10, 2012 at 8:03 pm #

        Aizen trolled Juha while Juha was trolling Yama :’p

      • Kaido - November 10, 2012 at 8:25 pm #

        Both are troll kings. We haven’t seen much from Juha so far but the few things we did see were quite fearsome and great.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 11, 2012 at 12:50 pm #

        Aizen pulled a cheap troll on Juhabach, Juhabach trolled Yama so badly and defiled SS along with him.

        Aizen couldn’t troll Yama like that, ever.

  11. Sexy Zangetsu - November 10, 2012 at 8:07 pm #

    yama is gonna come back. Ichigo and Co. are gonna search for the “Matrix of Leadership” and are gonna revive him. Byakuya is gonna become a quincy and is gonna be revealed Zaraki is actually a Hollow.

  12. theboss - November 10, 2012 at 8:20 pm #

    that shinigami who told ichigo that mayuri wanted him reminds me of the new quincy who was shown to kill akon.

    • Kaido - November 10, 2012 at 8:27 pm #

      yes but he looks different so its not him

    • MDre - November 11, 2012 at 2:27 pm #

      really? he reminds me of mayuri’s during the “turn back the pendulum arc”.

  13. Kaido - November 10, 2012 at 8:23 pm #

    I just hope so badly that Aizen is going to appear again and finally shows his Bankai. I mean…with such a fearsome and perfect Shikai…just what is Aizen’s Bankai?

    • Kaido - November 10, 2012 at 8:28 pm #

      I mean seriously if Kubo doesn’t make a comeback of Aizen I’ll personally kick Kubo’s ass

    • jake - November 11, 2012 at 1:39 am #

      what if he doesn’t have bankai? lol

      In order to become a captain you have to have bankai and be approved by some members of the Gotei 13 if I am not mistaken.

      It was also said that Aizen fooled them to believe that his zanpakuto was a water type (check out the end of the ss arc). He could have also fooled them that he had a bankai too. Kyoga Sugetsu is complete hypnosis so it’s a possibility.

    • AvatarShawn9169 - November 11, 2012 at 3:17 am #

      well i cant see aizen not haveing a bankai so i would say this bankais that we know of can go 3 differant directions from there shikai state that can just simply expand on there abillites like Byakuya’s, Gin’s, or Soifon’s banki’s they can take the form of a creature with a larger form of the shikai’s ability like Kamamora’s, renji’s, or mayuri’s, or they can clad the soul reaper in the shikai’s power in a condensed form like Yamamoto’s, Hitsuguya’s, or Ichigo’s
      now idk about u guys but i can’t see Complete Hypnosis being able to fit into the 2dn or 3rd catigories so i’d say his bankai would go into the first just and outword expansion of his abilites and the only way to go up from minipulate reality by turning it into an illusion is to minipulate his illusions into reality basically he makes his illusions real.
      i know im going to catch hell for this but i’m going to compare naruto and bleach and the way i see it complete hypnosis Aizens shikai is like the MS’s Tsukuyomi witch is simply a genjutsu or illusions that mess with a persons perceptions through there five senses Aizens bankai probally is like the Izanagi or more so like the technique it was based on the Creation of all things where the user doesn’t cast illusions one pple to get them to do what u wish but to minipulate reality as if it was an illusion another way u can compare it to naruto is the aizen ussally use’s his shikai to create clones of himself in order to attack from a blind spot or something like he did with harribel well in naruto the initial clone jutsu the one that the rain ninja used during the forest of death are just the same while the shadow clone technique that Naruto does is actally solid real clones if the theory above is right then aizen clones in bankai would be like shadow clones rather than just illusions meaning unlike now where aizen creates a clone and when u attack it he himself has to attack u but in bankai he won’t bc that clone will be real and able to attack itself well i can’t explain it anymore than that it would be a even more fearsome ability if it were true how ever it doesn’t gain much ground compared to his shikai if used properly like he does so the only reason Aizen would have to use his bankai is if the person he is faceing knows one of Kyōka Suigetsu’s 2 weaknesses and has the power to expliot them withc incase u didn’t know one is to touch/take his blade bc like Tosens zanpactuo those touching it are unaffected Gin of course confirmed this one however the other weakness was hinted on but never really confirmed u see i think a shinigami with a Spirit Pressure higher than his own can nullify or see through his illusions or at least makes them flawed enough to see through much like how Aizen nullified Soifons attack thoughits sapposed to kill in to hits no matter what be he stopped her attack by riseing his spirit pressure so high her reishi that forms her ability was overrun by his own i think in a simalur way Unohana was able to see that aizens corpse was a fake between that and her abilities as a doctor and if so that means her Spirit pressure must be as high as aizens whom addmitted to haveing a power level more than twice that of an average captian and proved that during his solo crushing of the soul soicity another thing that makes me think that pple stronger than him is immune to his shikai or able to see through it is tha fact he never used it in his battle with Yamamoto, Isshin, or Ichigo bc these 3 actally had such power that his illusions didn’t work on them so he had to go about it differantly in the case of yama he took his zanpactuo and used it agianst him and in the case of isshin he was actally pushed back and used the Hōgyoku and with ichigo he just kept him so mind fucked with his IQ ichigo couldn’t act

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 11, 2012 at 1:07 pm #

        @Jake that is true, I once wondered for the same reason if it was possible Aizen had no bankai because he could fake it. However aizen is a powerhouse so I’m sure he was able to unlock it at some stage.

        @Avatar thats a good theory, I’ve also got a suggestion but its not an OP bankai like the one you’re describing. Mine was that Aizen splitted his zanpacktou between shikai and bankai (I think bankais an shikais are seperate based on the clues Kubo has given).
        Do you remember the sokyouku hill (manga only). You know there were 4 giants: Jidambo and the other 3 gate guards. In the manga Jidambo and Shukakku Shiba fought the 3 guards who were being controlled by Aizen on the sokyouku hill. Jidambo wouldn’t have been controlled because he was in the Rukon district outside the seretei healing up. But the other 3 guards were still guarding at the seretei.
        If you noticed the symptons on those 3 giants, they had no pupils. Compare it to Jidambo’s recent attack on the R&D department. Did you notice he had similar symptons to those 3 giants back on the sokyouku hill at SS arc. That shows Jidambo attacking the R&D was Aizen’s doing.
        There was also some pointy shoes guy outside conducting the attack it seems. So some clown/jester character. Maybe that person is Aizen’s zanpacktou (bankai). You remember there were two Zangetsus and stuff. I think that hints at the possibility.
        So Aizen had the bankai as a back-up plan and left it back in SS. Maybe that guy will release Aizen from Squad 1’s prison.
        As for the abilities of his bankai, we know his zanpacktou is hypnosis. Shikai is for illusions. What if the bankai goes deeper into a person’s mind and controls them rather than place illusions. Thats hypnosis too so its appropriate for Aizen’s zanpacktou.
        The clown/jester I mentioned, that is a good personification for hypnosis. They are commonly associated with tricks and gimmicks. So it makes more sense.
        I’ve mentioned this theory about 3 times now but no one paid attention to my posts :( I appear to be the only person who paid attention to the 4 giants and the R&D attack.

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - November 11, 2012 at 1:09 pm #

        ok I guess my suggestion was kinda OP, but I think there is a limit to how Aizen can use it since he could’ve just posessed everyone. Maybe he can possess only people with low spiritual pressure like the giants. And perhaps only half control that Rin guy from the R&D department (he was conscious when he stabbed the fat scientist)

      • Kaido - November 11, 2012 at 9:37 pm #

        Aizen has to have a Bankai. It would be possible with Kyoka Suigetsu’s ability but remember what Urahara and Ukitake said. For example, Urahara said ” My Bankai doesn’t suit for training somebody” and Ukitake to Kyoraku, while fighting Starrk ” You shouldn’t use your Bankai at a place where verybody can see”. So perhaps Aizen’s Bankai wasn’t suited for his plans or idk. However, someone as powerful as him has to have mastered Bankai. He’s the only one alongside Juha to be on Yama’s level

      • Kaido - November 11, 2012 at 9:40 pm #

        Furthermore, he could’ve fooled them with Kyoka Suigetsu about his Bankai too. Making a fake Bankai using Shikai to not let them see his true Bankai

      • The True Troll King Juhabach - December 1, 2012 at 4:52 pm #

        Aizen isn’t on Yama’s level.

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