MangaSpoiler.com

BLEACH 「ブリーチ ネタバレ」 565 Spoilers

2014 January 19

Bleach 565 Spoilers: The Last Chapter end with Renji has a giant baboon hand and a tail (part of the bankai) Some sort of elaboration on the Monk’s training in RR..…!!! So what happens next..? find out story on BLEACH 565 Spoilers ブリーチ ネタバレ 第565話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoilers or predictions, please leave a comment below.

Bleach 565 Spoilers Summaries

Sources: Baidu
Trans: Andygoesrawr

这话大量的文字 可能是又解释了一些关于灭却师和友哈巴赫的背景

这一话只有三人:友哈巴赫 雨龙 哈斯沃德,雨龙和哈斯沃德有些争执

A rather verbose chapter and there seems to be a dispute between Uryuu and Haschwalth. Interesting.

Lots of words this chapter, maybe another explanation of the background of the Quincies and Yhwach.

Only three three who speak: Yhwach, Uryuu, Haschwalth – Uryuu and Haschwalth have some dispute.

(seems like the spoiler provider isn’t entirely sure of what is actually happening, but they’ve made an educated guess that we might find out more about the Quincies’ past)

Bleach 565 Trivia: Renji had a serial article in the Seireitei Communication titled Let’s Do Shikai, a much-touted, three-part series in which Renji gave tips on the essentials of battle

334 Responses to “BLEACH 「ブリーチ ネタバレ」 565 Spoilers”

  1. jake - January 23, 2014 at 11:18 am #

    anyone remember this? i loved this scene

    http://www.wallpaperfo.com/thumbnails/detail/20120428/bleach%20zaraki%20kenpachi%20zangetsu%20swords%201920×1200%20wallpaper_www.wallpaperfo.com_71.jpg

    • Samuelle - January 23, 2014 at 11:35 am #

      Yeah it was an awesome moment

    • MDre - January 23, 2014 at 11:51 am #

      yep, I liked how the old man slow down time, or you can also say he speed up ichigo’s perception of time.

  2. MDre - January 23, 2014 at 4:23 pm #

    The information we received from this chapter seemed like a layout for ichigo’s quincy powers.
    So what if? Power potentials of Kurosaki Ichigo.
    Ichigo seems more special than the other Quincy because he can talk to his inner Yhwach. He could probably achieve similar abilities that Yhwach has. Like Yhwach’s Aschachen is very similar to Mugetsu. Black smoke like techniques that cause the target to lose their powers. Ichigo’s Inner Yhwach knew more about shinigami’s then ichigo knew during ichigo’s hollowfication.

    i24.mangapanda.com/bleach/63/bleach-1586686.jpg

    He probably obtained that information from the knowledge and talents left from rukia’s borrowed shinigami powers/reishi.

    Now how many people exposed their reiatsu upon contact with ichigo.

    Rukia during the entire first saga. Uryu ishida during the hollow contest. The vizards during their training,

    Yammy, Grimmjow, Dordoni Alessandro, Nel tu, Nnoitra, Ulqiorra, during the arrancar arc (ichigo’s mask kept changing).

    In the Fullbring arc Ichigo received all the captains and lieutenants of the Gotei 13’s reiatsu in order to restore his shinigami powers.

    Quilge and Yhwach during the 2nd Quincy invasion.

    If ichigo’s inner Yhwach can obtain the knowledge, talent, and skills from the reiatsu they passed on, then he could figure out a short cut method for ichigo to be able to use the basic skills of shinigami, hollows, and quincies.

    • Samuelle - January 23, 2014 at 4:42 pm #

      Makes sense, it would also explain how ichigo influenced his closest friends into being spiritually aware and develop powers that would otherwise remained dormant. Does that make sense?

      • Aya - January 23, 2014 at 6:39 pm #

        shoot, that would also be the reason why Kyouraku said that there was the possiblity that -in rather weak odds, but still present nonetheless- Ichigo wouldn’t be able to go back to the human world!!!
        they can’t want another Yhwh walking around… so that means, they all know Ichigo is quincy.

        it would also explain why renji, rukia and ichigo are all barded up to their heads. kirinji healed them from the ‘foul reiatsu’ and shutara gave them new robes that couldn’t be contaminated by the king of quincies’s very soul…

      • Samuelle - January 23, 2014 at 6:46 pm #

        I hadn’t thought that far ahead ^_^ . Haven’t spoken to u in a while how’s it going? This is the year we get grimmjow’s epic return

      • Aya - January 23, 2014 at 6:55 pm #

        yeah! come back kitty!!! ;)
        been doing ok, just very very tired, can’t find the time to be around here much… I’m happy to see you’re still around and kicking though, it’s good to see you. :D

        and I thought of the kyouraku warning and the shutara dress just because I’ve read the old chapters a few days ago… just to refresh my memory…

      • Samuelle - January 23, 2014 at 7:12 pm #

        Don’t let work drag u down, I know the tired feeling works been hectic since the end of November. I keep thinking about reading from the beginning again but my mind keeps wandering to other things (I’m easily distracted) ^_^
        I got a cute puppy and kitten vid
        http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0uynCqmj3mI
        That should help tide us over until grims return XD

      • Aya - January 23, 2014 at 7:20 pm #

        thanks, boss. ;D

      • Samuelle - January 23, 2014 at 7:24 pm #

        Your welcome :D

  3. Samuelle - January 23, 2014 at 4:40 pm #

    If anyone’s interested GOH is out XD
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/the_god_of_high_school/c143/

  4. Slim Shady - January 23, 2014 at 4:46 pm #

    I must say that Bleach was the best manga (from big 3)
    this week.

  5. Leptor - January 23, 2014 at 4:56 pm #

    @ Darksnow.

    ???

    Not really sure what you’re trying to say, but it makes Yamamoto that much more impressive because it’s not just Juha- but it’s Juha plus portions of thousands/millions of other souls.

    Yamamoto is just one soul.

    Not sure what you’re trying to say about Ryujin Jakka. I didn’t say anything about that.

    • Darksnow - January 23, 2014 at 9:11 pm #

      Just want to say that Yama is impressive (no doubt in it)…so is Juha…
      Yama impressive – one soul fought many souls powered JB…But that many souls powered JB Is but one soul itself…
      Just like Rujin jakka is the manifestation of Yama’s power (the fiercest attack zanpukthou) so is having Powered by many souls is JB’s manifestation of power (kinda by product of his manifestation)…so basically its ‘just Juha’ vs ‘just Yama’…
      We cannot say Yama minus Rujjin jakka is real Yama and Rujjin jakka is a power up…he was born with it…similarly getting power from other souls is JB’s power born with it…thats not an addition…

  6. Ranma - January 23, 2014 at 8:12 pm #

    Wait didn’t grimmjow die? I don’t see why he would come back BUT if i want any arrancar’s back it would be Ulqiorra even though i’m 99.9% sure that’s he’s dead. :(

  7. Ranma - January 23, 2014 at 8:14 pm #

    Wait didn’t grimmjow die? I don’t see why he would come back BUT if i want any Espadas back it would be Ulqiorra even though I’m 99.9% sure that’s he’s dead. :(

    • Samuelle - January 23, 2014 at 8:38 pm #

      Ulquiora is 110% dead, grimmjow is alive we’ve seen his arm, and more importantly it’s been confirmed by kubo

  8. Leptor - January 24, 2014 at 1:46 am #

    @ Darksnow.

    I see your point, but I’m not sure I agree with it.

    Even if I did, though, I’m not sure you really got my point.

    My point is that Yamamoto is made up of one soul.

    While part of Juha’s natural born powers is to absorb portions of people’s souls, he’s still in a such a state where an absurd amount of souls have congregated in a sense.

    This could technically even be said for a Vasto Lorde Hollow, but the difference is in the scale of those being absorbed/eaten. In the case of a Vasto Lorde, they are mostly the final result of eating/absorbing a group mostly made up by weaklings.

    In Juha’s case, he absorbs even really powerful souls.

    So, I’m just saying that’s what makes Yamamoto all the more impressive.

  9. TheDiabolicalVixenGodQueenKillaBitchRetsuUnohana - January 24, 2014 at 4:20 am #

    GOH IS OUT

    • Samuelle - January 24, 2014 at 7:30 am #

      Memories coming back via flashback, guess we are gonna see the events that led to him losing them ^_^

      • tensasennin - January 24, 2014 at 7:52 am #

        Yea it should be nice. I wonder how he will take all those memories being who he is now, compared to who he was then. Han Dae Wi never dissapoints he is an awesome character.

      • tensasennin - January 24, 2014 at 7:54 am #

        @Sam there is a manga i want you to try, can you tell me what you think about it.
        http://www.mangahere.com/manga/psyren/

      • Samuelle - January 24, 2014 at 7:56 am #

        Tomorrow ok I got to work today and I don’t have much Internet connectivity left ^_^

      • tensasennin - January 24, 2014 at 10:06 am #

        K :)

  10. MDre - January 24, 2014 at 10:23 am #

    damn, just woke up. I’ve been a sleep for over 12 hours.

  11. MDre - January 24, 2014 at 10:23 am #

    damn, just woke up. I’ve been a sleep for over 12 hours.

  12. jake - January 24, 2014 at 10:33 am #

    I need some Kenpachi action damnit.

  13. AfterDeath - January 24, 2014 at 10:33 am #

    Does anyone see Hitsugya’s Hyorinmaru as the opposite to Ryu Jin jakka ? Because ryu jin jakka is seen as the strongest fire type zanpaktou and Hyorinmaru is seen as the strongest ice type.

    So maybe in a hundred years Hyorinmaru will have a form similar to Zanka no tachi, in which anything it touches will freeze to death and instantly die. And if he keeps his bankai active too long it will freeze everything around him.

    • jake - January 24, 2014 at 10:37 am #

      yeah that sounds plausible but I guess he will need to grow much much much more for him to actually ascend to this kind of level.

    • ebulus - January 24, 2014 at 6:36 pm #

      I would agree. But it would probably be maybe a thousand years or more before he reaches that level.

      His attacks so far are limited in power by the fact that the worst they can do so far is encase the enemy in ice. Against Cang Du and against the Espada, the enemy escaped by the ice breaking.

      Rukia’s attacks are ironically less powerful but more scary in that she can directly freeze the body of the opponent. Her ability to freeze a target rather than encase the target in ice is actually closer to what Yama could do with fire.

      She lacks the physical power of Hitsu, but she can do really bad damage with an attack and do it from a distance.

      • R'llhor - January 25, 2014 at 3:30 pm #

        I can’t see this coming. Yeah, he is a prodigy, but right now a great amount of people is well ahead of him.
        The strongest ICE Zampakutou right now didn’t seem to be a match for many other opponents, if his Zampakutou has such potential it is better to show it off soon.. before Hitsugaya dies in a combat.

    • Leptor - January 24, 2014 at 9:55 pm #

      It’s always appeared clear to me that Hitsugaya is meant to parallel Yamamoto.

      -Both have the strongest Zanpakutos of their element.

      -Both have (or had in Yamamoto’s case) enormous potential.

      -Both have a strong sense of duty.

      This is why I think Hitsugaya will be Captain Commander in a few centuries or so from now.

      • ImJustSaiyajin - January 25, 2014 at 6:26 am #

        I. Cant. Believe. You. Just. Said. This……

        i will kill myself with a leggo if this happens….

    • Himura00 - January 26, 2014 at 1:48 am #

      he would need more than a century in training, taking in account that in the soul society arc hitsugaya stated that his shikai has a radius of seven square meters (even with all his training I doubt it got miles better), and also its himself who told us that there is not a big difference in power bankai or shikai it all came down to the layers of ice it produces, on the other hand everybody in all soul society felt the environment change that Zanka no tachi brought, in the instant it got released. So they maybe sound counterparts, but there’s a great gap in power between them

  14. @thom_fernando - January 24, 2014 at 10:45 am #

    FT Out and jellal died:
    mangapanda(dot)com/fairy-tail/368/19

    :(

    • jake - January 24, 2014 at 10:50 am #

      don’t count on it. The same shit happened back in the tournament with Gray.

      • Titus - January 24, 2014 at 11:18 am #

        I don’t see any way this can be taken back. Ultear’s gone forever. Meredy can’t heal people, not that OS would let her heal him even if she could. They’re stranded in the middle of no where.

        I doubt it was some type of magical clone that was attacked.

      • @thom_fernando - January 24, 2014 at 12:39 pm #

        yes whos gonna turn the time again.. but i think its not a clone, why he say to meredy run away.. :(

      • Mad_Hatta - January 26, 2014 at 5:14 pm #

        could be that illusion thing he did, second image or whatever it was when he was two people at once

  15. kisuke urahara - January 24, 2014 at 3:39 pm #

    If Bach or Yhwach can control the quincy powers of strenitters then would they allow ichigo to use his quincy powers against them? Apparently he inherited those from her mother so he might be subject to it(their control) as well.

  16. kyuubirasagen - January 24, 2014 at 8:16 pm #

    Although Bach is quite powerful, I think aizen could take him down. Bach was affected by aizens power ,dispute aizen being sealed.

    • Grinch - January 24, 2014 at 9:47 pm #

      Did you not read chapter? Do you knot know who bach is? Not even hogyoku aizen could beat this guy, he is a God. If aizen couldnt beat yamamoto he couldnt beat bach

    • Grinch - January 24, 2014 at 9:47 pm #

      Did you not read chapter? Do you knot know who bach is? Not even hogyoku aizen could beat this guy, he is a God. If aizen couldnt beat yamamoto he couldnt beat bach

    • Grinch - January 24, 2014 at 9:48 pm #

      Did you not read chapter? Do you knot know who bach is? Not even hogyoku aizen could beat this guy, he is a God. If aizen couldnt beat yamamoto he couldnt beat bach

      • kyuubirasagen - January 25, 2014 at 2:17 am #

        @Grinch did YOU forgot what aizen did to Bach a few chapters ago.
        First Bach needs a sleeping recovery time. May be like Odin from Thor. Furthermore despite being sealed, aizen was able to alter Bach’s perception. Yea some god right.

      • Himura00 - January 26, 2014 at 2:02 am #

        we still don’t know what Yhwach did to Aizen, remember his sentence was of 20,000 years, but after the encounter they have, Ywach did said that his perception got a little confused, but he also said he asked him to aid him, he refused so he made sure and I Quote? “Now he has an eternity to think about that decision” did he seal him completely? did he killed him? who knows the only think clear is that he is unable to fight anymore

    • Leptor - January 24, 2014 at 9:58 pm #

      Why does not being able to defeat Yamamoto mean he couldn’t beat Juha?

      Both Aizen and Juha had to cheat to beat him.

      I do think Juha is more powerful than Shinigami Aizen (though I wouldn’t say that’s a 100% fact yet), but for now I’m sticking with Hogyoku Aizen being more powerful than Juha.

      However, Juha does have the potential to surpass Hogyoku Aizen in my mind.

    • ebulus - January 25, 2014 at 12:12 am #

      It depends on a few things:

      – The nature of Aizen’s bankai

      – Something from 514. Shadows appear around Bach and a time limit for operating outside the schatten bereich is mentioned.

      – How much of Bach’s soul is inside of Bach at the time of the fight.

      – He seems to “consume” whatever he absorbs. We don’t know the rate at which he gets stronger from absorbing and the rate at which his strength dissapates.

      The other things we know is that he can be beaten and was beaten so badly that it took him nearly a 1000 years to recover. And that he was afraid enough of Yama not to fight him directly.

    • MDre - January 25, 2014 at 1:38 am #

      Saying Hogyoku Aizen is stronger than Yhwach is not only underwhelming but lack luster. That’s like saying Cell from the Dragonball series is stronger than kid Majin Buu. get the fuck out of here.

      That’s like saying Dangai Ichigo is stronger than Yhwach. If that was the case, then this entire war should of been a cake walk for Ichigo. Ichigo would of Solo the entire Invasion, but that didn’t happen.

      Yhwach is way stronger then all versions of Aizen. Even Yamamoto failed at killing Yhwach… twice, and now Yhwach has Yamamoto’s bankai while getting stronger every time someone dies on the battlefield.

      • kyuubirasagen - January 25, 2014 at 2:24 am #

        Aizen is immortal. That was stated in the manga. Bach could be mortal could immortal. He probably isn’t immortal though . If he was then why would he name a successor.

      • Leptor - January 25, 2014 at 2:37 am #

        @ MDre.

        That’s not really the same thing at all.

        We have zero relative comparisons to make between Hogyoku Aizen and Juha.

        With Buu and Cell, we have a million relative comparisons to make.

        Moreover, there’s still the possibility that Aizen really is meant to remain the main villain or will return in that role. So if we’re basing it off of who’s appearing later, that could end up being Aizen anyways.

        What does Dangai Ichigo have to do with the current war? Dangai Ichigo was far more powerful than any other Ichigo we’ve seen up to this point. Current Ichigo MIGHT have surpassed that level, but that’s not guaranteed.

        Yamamoto “failed” at killing Juha in the same way he “failed” at killing Aizen. They both cheated to win.

      • tensasennin - January 25, 2014 at 7:26 am #

        Ichigo did not surpass Dangai Strength since then. Both his juha and hollow(zanpaktou) fused. They would feel no reiatsu from him also because he was that much stronger.

      • killerC - January 26, 2014 at 8:02 pm #

        he might have his bankai, but that means he can’t use his volstanding if he is like the other quincys

    • jake - January 25, 2014 at 9:17 am #

      If we just count raw power then Juha is probably stronger than aizen but think about it. Aizen’s most fearsome power is not strength. It is Intellect and his Zanpakuto power which is yet to be rivalled imo.

      Battles in bleach are not just about power. They are also about tactics, techniques and intelligence. One who possesses all these aspects will be the strongest and right now for me Aizen has the top spot.

  17. kisuke urahara - January 25, 2014 at 3:17 pm #

    I am guessing Ukitake has the same illness that Hisana Had.
    That is just my guess and I don’t have a solid reason to say so. I just feel like posting it.

  18. Billy / Hakuba - January 25, 2014 at 4:46 pm #

    Hi there Mr. Psychologist, felt like dropping by. Howdy?

    • Samuelle - January 25, 2014 at 4:48 pm #

      Sorry billy pandas not been around this week :(

      • Billy / Hakuba - January 25, 2014 at 4:50 pm #

        Thanks for the reply. Where is he?

        And you are?

      • Samuelle - January 25, 2014 at 4:52 pm #

        Don’t know, I assume it’s school stuff that’s keeping him busy. I’m just me :D

      • Billy / Hakuba - January 25, 2014 at 4:59 pm #

        Hehehehe smarty.

        I shall drop again to tell hi in the near future. ^_^

      • Samuelle - January 25, 2014 at 5:04 pm #

        Coolio ^_^

  19. Darksnow - January 25, 2014 at 6:23 pm #

    @ Leptor

    If Yama is one soul so is JB…I did saw your point to begin with and i myself also believed it halfway thats the reason i did say that yeah Yama is/was impressive and the other explaination…JB doesn’t absorb people’s soul but rather part of his own soul(that was given to fill the void) returns with the abilities inherent and acquired by those souls…so in the end its not that the souls have congregated but just one…and even if JB was a pile of many souls(that which he is not) that still would have been his natural ability and inherent skill improved and sharpened over a period of time…just like in the case of Yama, albeit in a different manner…
    Even in the case of Vasto lords there is this one personality which takes over…and if it fails to do it its no longer VL and not that much powerful…even to control and wield that much power there has to be a proper powerful base inherent in that soul…still not sure about VLs though…but its not like any scum hollow comes in and becomes the governing personality…but rather someone who has come and earned the subjugation of the rest of the hollow souls and keeps constantly earning it…
    On a side note what you call cheating can also be called as a battle strategy and skill considering Yama’s death and Aizen’s power…which in the case of JB appeared to be not necessary…

    • Leptor - January 25, 2014 at 6:38 pm #

      I don’t think you really see my point, because you still keep saying “Juha’s just one soul”. I realize that the soul becomes part of Juha- and that technically- one may be able to call it his soul at that point. However, my point is that he still became stronger by absorbing those souls (part of the souls were his to begin with- but those souls powered up and he received those power ups by absorbing them) He’s still the result of tons of souls that have practically congregated.

      Yamamoto did not have something like this happen. So while I’m not trying to take away from Juha or anything, I’m just saying that makes Yamamoto all the more impressive when you think about it. Yamamoto didn’t just own a beast like Juha 1,000 years ago, but he owned that beast who had absorbed who knows how many souls. With Yamamoto literally and figuratively only being one soul, that’s incredible.

      As for the cheating, I know that in war cheating is necessary- so I don’t blame Aizen and Juha for resorting to such tactics. If anything, I’d find them dumb for not employing them. At the same time, however, that also means they did not have the power to defeat Yamamoto in a fair one on one fight- ergo, Yamamoto is more powerful.

      • Darksnow - January 25, 2014 at 7:52 pm #

        Not at all…i did see your point the way you saw it…just explained it the way i saw it…
        No the soul doesn’t become the part of Juha, they already are…i mean only his own soul returns(not the whole soul of the person only his part which was given to him by JB)and once again Juha becomes one…but i assume that your point still holds valid (the way u see it) as now it has acquired other soul’s ability and come back…
        Now lets say Yama got zanpukhtou and began training with it…first wielded asauchi then got its name and shikai then bankai then full control of bankai (assumptions as we don’t know so detailed a back story of him, but am pretty much sure he did not born and suddenly did bankai)…the point is he trained or battled and sharpened his skills over a period of whatever time and became the Yama we know…
        This guy JB trained(in a way) or say sharpened his skills by giving parts of his soul to people…

        Now like what u said bout Yamamoto not having something like this happen for him (lets say not lucky in nature’s selection) and he still became the monster killer and the strongest shinigami and defeated JB (lucky one)…indeed an extraordinary feat…
        i say JB did not have something like a fierce fire type ability to take birth with (not lucky in nature’s selection) happen to him…he even had to train(giving souls to ppl) to just feel senses and survive…yes ppl did beheld him is a different thing…but this guy was really helpless to begin with…and so if i say that he did an extraordinary feat in finally killing Yama the one born with the fierce fire type ability…i am sure you wont comply with it…no one would…and i know no one should…
        Both have had their own chances and their own way to stand out from the crowd in a manner which best suited them…

        When you say fair one-on-one fight i assume you want to say power vs power…more precisely offensive power vs power…if thats the case i believe Yama to be strongest even now…
        But offensive power is just one aspect of the total strength of an individual…we compare it singularly only by an assumption that the other factors (skills) are equal or if they are unnecessary…but in a battle the skills which Aizen possessed or the strategy JB used against Yama, are neither unnecessary (for comparison of strength) nor was Yama equal to them in their respective skills…so (in a way) in overall comparison Yama still may not be said the strongest…

      • Leptor - January 25, 2014 at 10:17 pm #

        That’s not really the same thing, though. Juha gets the power ups the others receive throughout their lives, and there are many training and powering up at once. So Juha is getting the training of many lifetimes in just one, where as Yamamoto only gets the power up he receives by training himself.

        In no way, shape, or form am I trying to take anything away from Juha here. My only point is literally just to note how impressive it is that Yamamoto’s single soul power is apparently far more powerful than Juha’s was 1,000 years ago + the hundreds/thousands/millions of souls’ powers he had accumulated up to that point.

        When I say a fair one on one fight, I don’t just mean offensive power. I just mean overall power period. Cheating is a tactic people should employ if that’s what it takes for them to win a war, but it doesn’t count as part of their power obviously.

      • Aya - January 26, 2014 at 10:52 am #

        The both of u said very interesting things, but, if I’m allowed to say my POV, I think that JB is but one soul, as Yama.
        It’s true that JB can ‘cheat’ and absorb many experiences while doing basically nothing, but it’s still his own soul (I interpreted as ONLY the pieces of his soul – that he ‘gave’ out- returned to him, enriched as they were with new experiences and abilities).
        BUT, that is his power.
        As much as Yama has fire as his.
        You also have to consider the fact that JB has to continuously give out and later absorb back the pieces of soul he spread around, in order to continue living. If he didn’t, he’d regress back.

        So, does that mean he simply consumes all those powers he’s aquired and never powered up or what?
        I’m really curious to know your opinions on that…

  20. kenpachi - January 26, 2014 at 6:59 am #

    about the last chapter 565 the the biggest question wich came to my mind was..still is..is kubo ending it sooner ?

    i mean he talked about the origin of bach..normal way of thinking is that you would do this when it’s olmost over ain’t it?

    people talk about this and that but for me i was actualy surprised that he wrote this kinda chapter..so is bach gonna die ?..what was the purpose of making this chapter so soon?
    was is just random..ore could this be meaning that bach is gonna die sooner than expected?…it’s odd..maybe he was bored with drawing fighting scenes all this time..and thought it was ok to make this kinda chapter..yea we were expecting it one day ..but so soon?..mmmm it’s interesting..ore maybe i’m thinking to much O_o

    • Aya - January 26, 2014 at 11:07 am #

      just keep in mind that, while Kubo did uncover some truths, he didn’t even scratch the basic shell of the whole issue.
      There still are lots of answers has to give out.
      What cames to mind:
      – how the war started and ended 1000 years ago
      – how was Yama able to ‘confine’ JB and failed to kill him
      – how the 5 war potentials come to, why are they considered as such and WHO are the last 2 we still do not know who they are
      – what and how is Uryuu going to do to get out of the mess he’s put himself in
      – what are those is Hueco Mundo going to do
      – what is Ichigo going to do, and the SS too, for that matter. If they continue fighting they’re only helping their enemy…
      …really, there are more, but those are the prominent ones.

      Besides, I really do not think this latest revelation disclosed everything about JB.
      Remember, Kubo is a master when uncovering truths, making u think u know the whole issue and then throwing something out that shatters your previous mindset.
      After all, that’s the reason we all stuck to reading Bleach even through boring chapters, isn’t it? ;)

  21. nobodyinparticular - January 26, 2014 at 12:22 pm #

    i have a question….i am not from a western country and id like to ask do any of u think that young yhwach is totally hot and cute at the same time im a heterosexual male and this is the first time my eyes could see both these adjectives in a male BTW i wish i had madaras or sephiroths hair style…

  22. nobodyinparticular - January 26, 2014 at 12:23 pm #

    i have a question….i am not from a western country and id like to ask do any of u think that young yhwach is totally hot and cute at the same time im a heterosexual male and this is the first time my eyes could see both these adjectives in a male BTW i wish i had madaras or sephiroths hair style…

  23. Leptor - January 26, 2014 at 3:34 pm #

    @ Aya.

    Again, that wasn’t my point. I’m not trying to take anything away from Juha’s “power”, I’m simply noting how Yamamoto is that much more impressive- because Juha is not just one soul. As you said, he receives characters’ power ups, so he’s taking more than he’s giving out. Plus, there are the souls that he didn’t power up himself that he still absorbs.

    I’m simply saying that Yamamoto, as a single soul, being far stronger than someone who has hundreds/thousands/millions of souls is pretty amazing.

    • Aya - January 26, 2014 at 7:21 pm #

      I never disagreed with that! Yama is strong, no doubt about that. I was simply explaining that, by my point of view, JB only absorbs back his own soul.
      Because, as far as I understood, JB doesn’t take the souls of those who benefited his powers. I could be mistaken, of course, but, as far as I can see, JB’s ‘rented soul’ becomes one with the person it inhabits, thus gaining the same experience and powers (and not soul) of the person’s soul itself. But, upon that person’s death, his own soul disappears (or s.thing) BUT the rented piece of JB’s soul goes back the the true owner, namely JB.
      The fact is, the rented soul is not as it was before it was sent out, but carries knowledge of the experiences acquired.
      Thus JB is still one soul, imo.
      I can understand ur point though because the explanation was somewhat lacking…

      As for the fact that JB can get the souls of those he didn’t give his powers to, I think you refer to the Ausswhalen (or how’s it called), the holy selection of the quincy race.
      In that regard, you have to cnsider the fact that EVERY quincy discendant has JB’s blood in them. That was stated.
      Since Uryuu’s mother didn’t die immediately after the selection, but it took her 3 months to die, I believe the selection itself was a way for JB to get back the blood that was originally his, and not the life or soul of those unfortunate quincies. The fact that they died is simply a consequence of being stripped of an internal balance they had lived their whole life with… I think.

      lol, I suppose one can read both ways, but how else can you explain the fact that Uryuu’s mother didn’t die immediately after the selection? A body cannot live that long without a soul, I reckon.

      • Darksnow - January 26, 2014 at 7:30 pm #

        @ Aya
        Your explanation of JB being one soul and how parts of his soul return gaining experience is i think better than mine :)…

    • Aya - January 26, 2014 at 7:25 pm #

      Basically, you’re convinced that JB is not just one soul, but that the absorbtion also takes the souls of those he gave his power to…
      On this, I simply have to disagree. But that’s my personal interpretation :)

  24. Darksnow - January 26, 2014 at 7:22 pm #

    @ Aya

    Thats quite interesting…but i do think he does gain all the abilities inherent and acquired by the souls whom he gives his own part…
    While that is true i don’t think JB sucks out the whole soul or say 100% of the abilities distributed within that soul…but when his part comes back it comes with that much ability which it can sustain…
    This is quite difficult to but lets say…if u are making a 500gm cake for which i give u 10% of dough(u already have 90% of it) in which u have added 100gm sugar(homogenous mixture)…after the cake is completely made lets say i take a small 10% part of it…i’ll only get 10gm sugar from u…talked about only 1 ingredient for simplicity of example…but in reality will get many ingredients from u this way…
    This also explains how he did not get back 1 sense per 1 soul back but rather all senses slowly came to function fully…and also that he needs to consume abilities incessantly…

    @ Leptor

    Of course its not the same thing…i did say they got skilled in different manner…
    I say JB must gave had trained in a weak manner getting weak portions of weak souls a 1000 years back and so Yama beat him…that does not make Yama ‘all the more impressive’…
    Now JB beat Yama coz he got powerful with effective training…more powerful souls…then?? There is nothing about Yama’s impression here but instead JB’s…still i don’t believe it…
    A million souls have nothing to do with impression here when we are talking about guys like Yama & JB…
    A full squad of shinigami foot soldiers cannot beat Yama nor any other Captain…this is not some surprising fact to say ‘thats what makes them All the more impressive’… Even Ichigo sustained an attack by a million zanpouktou and could barely defeat Byakuya let alone speak for Yama…
    And so what if JB gets abilities from souls…!! This itself is his ability…and if he getting many training like u said at once even that does not mean that he becomes more powerful…the quality of it does matter…a 1000 foot soldiers training doesn’t equal to what a Captain goes through in his training…which makes him a Captain… And if JB is powerful thats because its him…
    His own one soul sustains these abilities and it is his own soul (even when now he has already spread his power he still is quite at least as strong as Yama)…if not this ability and say he was bestowed upon by a fire ability, he would still have gotten this strong by only his own soul…it is his own soul that is powerful not the other way round…
    Don’t get stuck on cheating…according to your logic even Yama is cheating by the use of Ryujin Jakka…so what if Aizen’s ability is hypnosis…tell Yama not to use his zanpouktou which has got an added advantage of fire damage…tell him he is cheating this way…
    If Yama was not that smart and got caught in JB’s strategy, his lack of intelligence or battle strategy is not to be termed as cheating…….smartness…intelligence…is also one of the aspect of overall strength which Yama did not have clearly…or say he was blinded by his own power to not consider it…in any way he did not have it so as to shine there…that does make them both Aizen and JB more than Yama in that aspect…let alone battle strategy(even though it battle strategy seems to be a part of intelligence, its not)…

    • Aya - January 26, 2014 at 7:36 pm #

      lol, cake JB…
      jokes aside, I see your point, but it still does not explain why JB has to constantly send out and absorb back his own pieces of soul.
      I mean, I get that he takes small portions and all, but it was stated that he would, specifically, go back the his previous vegetable state if he doesn’t continue to do so.
      I mean, if u gave me that 10% of sugar, it would still be in my possession even if I add other ingredients.
      But it seems like he simply cannot mantain the ‘recipe’ for long.
      So it means his soul consumes what’s given to him, does it not?

      • Darksnow - January 26, 2014 at 8:20 pm #

        Ohh ok yeah got that…this is the second time it has happened, i answer you something and it turns out to be a different question altogether which in itself is tricky :)
        This is strange…it does appear that his soul consumes it or maybe he is like immortal in that senseless state but normal souls are not…they have life…so when their life(a limit to a soul’s life) ends so does his senses…but his consumption rate seems to be very high for that…the people who get part of his soul filling their own void don’t appear to need constant refilling it but he does…
        It does look like he consumes everything and doesn’t power up by it…
        And now that you put it this way, it may also be that Leptor is right, even if it didn’t occur to him, JB’s soul can only sustain his former self, rest all is consummated for the very abilities he doesn’t have or now that he has…

      • Aya - January 26, 2014 at 8:43 pm #

        lol, so, basically, we are all saying the very same thing in 3 different ways?
        xD
        Sorry, english is not my first language, I probably didn’t explain my idea very well…
        The fact that souls have an… ‘expiration’ date would really explain it.
        However(1), that would also imply that JB really absorbs also the soul it has inhabited, thus corroborating Leptor’s theories.
        However(2), souls do not die… so it’s probably something different altogether.

        …what a mess.

  25. Komori Ningen - January 26, 2014 at 8:00 pm #

    Justin Bieber initials are famous here

    • Samuelle - January 26, 2014 at 8:03 pm #

      I’ll be glad when they throw his ass in jail

      • Komori Ningen - January 26, 2014 at 8:07 pm #

        Don’t hate in him samuelle
        You’re worth too much for that

      • Samuelle - January 26, 2014 at 8:24 pm #

        Give me one good reason not to. Didn’t know u thought I was worth that much ^_^