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One Piece 832 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第832話

2016 July 12

One Piece 832 Spoilers: The last Chapter end with A rabbit knight tries to attack Nami, but Carrot protects her. The rabbit knight is actually a subordinate of Big Mom……!!! So what happens next..? find out story on One Piece 832 Spoiler Discussion 「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第832話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoiler or prediction, please leave a comment below.

One Piece 832 Spoilers Summaries

Source: apforums

Chapter title: Germa Kingdom

Straw Hats can’t escape from the forest since trees and ground start moving.

Chopper is escaping from the rabbit-ish devil fruit user named Randolph, “the crane knight”. He/She is not a mink tribe.

Fake Luffy captures Nami. Fake Luffy turns out to be Charlotte Brulee, the 8th daughter of Big Mom.

Scene changes to Germa’s ships on the lake near Big Mom’s castle.

Sanji and Reiju are talking.

Sanji: I already broke tie with my family. I won’t get married.

Reiju: Pudding is a nice woman, right? I like her, too.

Vinsmoke Judge, Sanji’s father, appears in front of them. He is responsible for Germa 66 and Germa Kingdom. He looks really stern.

Judge: Sanji, What the heck did you do to Yonji? He is pretty strong.

Sanji: That just means I’m stronger than him.

Judge: Step outside. Men should talk through their fists.

One Piece 832 Trivia : Nami being a lightning user herself was the first person to encounter the powers of the Goro Goro no Mi on Skypiea, she was also the only member of the Straw Hats to never get hit by Enel’s attacks.

1,258 Responses to “One Piece 832 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第832話”

  1. antarus - July 20, 2016 at 10:30 am #

    so what if he was weak when he was small, 3vs 1 is not fair anyway.

    • Power - July 20, 2016 at 12:41 pm #

      @amashi that’s right,it is not sanji weak,it just the story till right now still put sanji on difficult situation by putting him with out league opponent, remember when sanji fought vergo and yonji,every character on straw hat crew was worthy and doing their own duty as one team,when luffy fought arlong,he already said that, even iam not sanji fan,but still I think sanji is cool character in term of his characteristic

      • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 12:46 pm #

        I know Sanji is not weak, he not only is a badass character but he’s pretty strong, it’s just the way the character is shown currently.

    • Power - July 20, 2016 at 12:44 pm #

      If you know dragonball,you will know goku alone cannot beat buu at that time without satan help,and satan alone cannot beat buu without goku help,strawhat pirates was also like that,it was all integrated.

  2. Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 10:39 am #

    @yall im sorry if im being a little whiney btch here, but its just that, what ive been looking forward to has been my downside as the complete opposite is gonna be shown and that just disappoints me. Maybe not you guys as you’ve kept your mind open to possibilities but I was rather set on one possibility and that doesn’t seem to be the case here.
    I will nonetheless read this chapter and move on and look forward to the rest of One Piece

  3. Wakkawakka - July 20, 2016 at 10:40 am #

    Why isn’t there a new chapter page? Spoilers are already out..

    • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 10:41 am #

      spoilers are simply earlier than usual, chapter still comes out tomorrow

  4. nickname - July 20, 2016 at 10:42 am #

    sorry but I’m gonna go on a little rant here.
    I’m not surprised ppl are starting to get more and more disappointed with how Oda handles Sanji and even though I’m not a big fan of Sanji at all, I feel the same.

    However it’s not just Sanji imo, it’s pretty much all the SHs. pre-TS there was a certain emphasis on the SHs, their distinctive qualities and how useful they were for the crew (remember what Sanji said to Usopp at Enies Lobby?). also, almost all of them got their own opponents to fight or actual challenges to overcome so they could grow as a character. I’ve seen hardly any of this post-TS and we’re over 200 chapters in…

    Zoro, Franky, Robin and Usopp are not even part of this arc, which is a big disappointment in itself for me as I posted in this or the last section. out of those 4 Usopp had his moment when he sniped Sugar but didn’t get a real fight and had this terrible scene, where he abandoned the Franky and the dwarves. Robin didn’t get much to do or show and Zoro’s opponent were as close to pushing him to his limit as he would be if he were go finding it himself. Franky was the only one with a good showing so far, all his technology, the upgraded Sunny, franky shogun and his fight with Senor Pink.

    the current SHs were completely side-lined for the most part, Nami and Brook didn’t get to do anything worth remembering, Chopper was ok with all he had to do on Zou and PH and Sanji has been catching so much Ls that you might start wondering if he’s actually playing the Pokemon Go version with Ls instead of Pidgeys.

    One Piece used to be about the SH’s and their adventures on their way to conquer the Grand Line. now it feels like it’s about Luffy going after the big-shots, gathering the allies he needs for that and oh, he has those 8 quirky side-kicks with him as well!
    I still really like how the story as a whole is developed and moving forward but I wish Oda wouldn’t loose sight of most of the SHs along the way like he did the last couple of years.

    • powner ® - July 20, 2016 at 10:54 am #

      “Sanji has been catching so much Ls that you might start wondering if he’s actually playing the Pokemon Go version with Ls instead of Pidgeys”

      Holy shid LMFAO ! +10 here Sir.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 10:54 am #

      lmao, what you see as losing sight of them is actually Oda developing them further.
      this whole arc is about Sanji and the further development of his back story and yet you’re complaining about the SHs being sidelined. wtf.

      im terribly disappointed too, but not in the manga, im disappointed in the people who supposedly call themselves fans, you’re not fans your children. the lack of actual depth to your thinking is embarrassing and gives credence to everything Fame was saying about One Piece fans being pathetic and generic

      • - July 20, 2016 at 11:12 am #

        Everything to make OP look better. Thats what most OP fans do, thats what you’re doing now, thats what Fame makes fun of.

        I have nothing against how the plot has been moving on after the ts, i find it pretty enjoying actually and im not complaining. In fact, i think its given some freshness to the story by going over the recycling stuff of you know, villain defeated by SHs and country saved. At least now the members seem to gain some independence with Sanji and co leaving Dressrosa and saving the minks while Sanji also leaving them once again to deal with his family. And now the same happened with Zoro and the others, even though we dont know what they may come up with.

        But again when someone shares his thoughts about not liking that things seem to have changed a bit, people quickly tend to call him out for bitching or complaining.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 11:32 am #

          not liking one aspect here and there is all find and good, i’ve done it too. but this is a whole different level. it’s embarrassing seeing this level of childishness.

          we’ve all seen children throw massive hissy fits in shops because their mother won’t buy them everything they want, you always look at the mother and feel sorry for her. well that’s the state we’re at now, we have a bunch of unappreciative spoilt brats having a sook

        • - July 20, 2016 at 11:43 am #

          I think you’re taking this a bit too far man. You know im not that kind of a person, when one is acting like a child/bitch im gonna call him out for it, especially in an open forum like that where you dont know anyone and arent afraid of hurting him.

          But some persons deserve a bit more respect than the average ms retard, and i think nickname is one of them. I really dont see what was it that made him look like a child on that post but anyway you could have put it in better way.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 11:47 am #

          the reason you think nickname should be respected is because he usual acts like a logical person, but this post clearly shows the opposite of that.

          he’s lost sight of rationale and given in to his emotions leading to incoherent childish babbling, most of which isn’t even accurate.

        • nickname - July 20, 2016 at 12:00 pm #

          I’d also like to know how exactly I’m being childish here, I admit I went a bit over the top on some parts of the rant like the part with the Ls but that was a joke to make this a better read not me being emotional.

          for the most part Amashi, Sakanade and myself are discussing how Oda has been handling the character development of the SHs in a pretty normal and civilized fashion. you on the other hand deemed it necassary to call us childish, generic, pathetic and brats, which quite franky makes you look like the childish one here.

        • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 12:04 pm #

          @nickname, yeh same when was all this so childish, I admit i acted like a child as a joke when you said stop crying and I replied, “no im gonna cry when i read this chapter” but aside from that I was outright stating my views on the way this chapter is addressing Sanji so far.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 12:16 pm #

          @nickname

          all your rant does it point out that the SHs have been separated twice, astute observation, but then you start bemoaning about some poor interpretation of what their separation means, suggesting that the crew dynamic is not what it used to be, which is a completely bullshit point.

          the dynamic hasn’t changed, it’s still the same as it’s always been, picking and choosing which parts you focus on to suggest otherwise is merely selective reasoning.

          the rest is you inventing the rest of the story before reading it. you’re suggesting that this is it for Sanji and that he’ll be the damsel in distress for this arc.

          it’s like you’re actively trying to find a way to be disappointed.

        • nickname - July 20, 2016 at 12:31 pm #

          you say the dynamic hasn’t changed but when exactly has the crew not been complete for an entire arc in the past? same goes for dressrosa, we didn’t see Sanji’s party for like 60 chapters how is the dynamic of the crew supposed to be still the same or even shown at all when they’re seperated for such a long time?

          I’d actually like to see you point out how exactly this is selective reasoning or bullshit or which other parts I should focus on…

          as for Sanji, he got just got handcuffed, him needing help to get out of them is the only logical conclusion here, that’s not me inventing that’s pretty basic deduction…

        • nickname - July 20, 2016 at 12:37 pm #

          also, this wasn’t just about the SH’s dynamic it was about their character development for the most part.

          actually explaining whymy point of view is bullshit, invalid or selective reasoning instead of just labelling it as such would be really appreciated, otherwise this will not go anywhere

        • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 12:44 pm #

          your argument is that Luffy does everything now and the rest of the crew just follows his curtails, but that’s not true at all. them splitting had an actual function to it, it wasn’t just for the sake of separating them. Sanji and the Sunny team split and had their own quest that weaved into the main story, then the others split and will also be given the same treatment.

          the only difference is the expanded nature of the stories, which now focus on multi saga events rather than just a single arc by arc adventure.

        • nickname - July 20, 2016 at 12:58 pm #

          I never meant to imply Oda just seperated them for the sake of it, I get the reasoning behind and I aknowledge it had a function for the story.

          Oda moving a bit away from the arc by arc adventure-style you mentioned also isn’t that I’d outright call a bad thing and as I said above I still like how Oda has been developing the overall story but I feel the way he’s been developing it happened on the expense of the focus and development of the other SHs, Luffy is just an exception because he’ll always be at the center of the story.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 1:18 pm #

          but that’s the thing, this is actually how it’s always been, the only difference is that some members are not present.

          character development has largely been focused on the arcs in which the characters join (or rejoin for the girls) where we see their back stories and who they were and what they want.

          now in the new world we’re revisiting those characters backstories for another take even before their previous development, starting off with Sanji, then we’ll likely get Zoro’s in Wano, Brook’s at another point, maybe Franky and Nami’s too.

          along with that we’ll also likely get new SHs too and see their back stories.

          so i don’t really think that anything’s changed, rather it’s become more focused on an arc per arc basis

        • nickname - July 20, 2016 at 1:34 pm #

          I really hope you’re right on revisiting the other’s backstories as well, there’s definetely still some potential left in most of them.

          I think I’ll leave it at that for now and wait to see where Oda will be going with Sanji this arc, maybe my worries and complaints will end up being all for nothing lol

      • nickname - July 20, 2016 at 11:23 am #

        how much of this is actually about Sanji as a character? he ran away from them at a very young age, they might be his relatives by blood but what made and actually shaped Sanji as a character was his time with Zeff and at Baratie. showing us how his real family are a bunch of pricks, who picked on him when he was a child and that Sanji ran away from them for that reason doesn’t really do much for him and his character development.

        it could have done something if we were to get to see Sanji dealing with this situation himself, regardless of whether it is by fighting off Judge or maneuvering around BM and the Germa to get out of this. but what happened instead? Sanji lost again and is now handcuffed and BM has the keys. who oh who could it be that gets the keys back from BM and everyone out of this mess? Sanji? the other SHs? No, all is going to come down to Luffy, as it always does. this is exactly what I meant, back at Grand Line Oda had all the SHs depending on each other, now it’s just everyone depending on Luffy…

        you can be disappointed all you want, tbh I’m pretty disappointed to see such a lack of tolerance from you as well even though I’m used to it from many other OP fans.
        the one with a lack of depth to his thinking here is none other than you, because of your refusal to question Oda and how he goes about his story and its elements.

        nobody has a problem if you or others are cool with these developments but other ppl have every right to not be cool with it and voice their disappointment and justify it, that doesn’t make us any less of a fan or more generic and pathetic than others.

        • nickname - July 20, 2016 at 11:26 am #

          ^ @Nidai btw

        • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 11:28 am #

          Well said.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 11:43 am #

          “because of your refusal to question Oda and how he goes about his story and its elements.”

          are you ok? do you have a fever or something? coz that statement suggests you’ve never read anything i’ve ever written…

          nothing you’ve even said is a valid point, this arc shows us what Sanji’s life was before Zeff, that includes his family, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the way that Oda has chosen to portray it, but there is everything wrong with your attitude towards a few lines from a spoiler of an arc that only just started.
          because of the focus on Sanji’s past this arc also gives an opportunity to give Sanji more future development thus show off his new skills against whatever opponent he faces.

          don’t forget that a key may not be necessary at all, we’ve seen Rayleigh remove the chains without using a key, this gives us an opportunity to learn how that was done.

        • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 11:48 am #

          No one is arguing Sanji’s past here, what people aren’t happy with is the fact that Sanji was so overwhelmed and easily cuffed and treated like one of the Celestial’s slaves

        • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 11:57 am #

          you don’t even know the full story yet…

          Marco was also easily cuffed by Onigumo, lets start undermining him next…

          Sanji still has to fight an opponent this arc so how about you wait until that before passing judgement, rather than doing it before the chapters even out.
          logically he should also have a new power up of some kind to show off this arc.

          but no you have to have a hyper sensitive hair trigger reaction to everything that displeases you.
          why use logic to assess the intentions when you can just flame your frustrations with other fools online…

        • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 12:07 pm #

          That Marco incident is far from the point, he was distracted his aim was on protecting WB and WB alone, however this is showing Sanji getting beaten and then handcuffed to forcibly do things against his will

        • nickname - July 20, 2016 at 12:10 pm #

          yes, I’m ok, appreciate you caring for me. I’ve read most of your posts and I’ve seen you tackling criticism more often than actually critisizing yourself.

          your remark about my attitude towards a few lines of a spoiler actually makes me question if you properly read my posts because all of this go beyond just this spoiler and what happened to Sanji there. but it seems like you just wanted to dismiss it as invalid points anyways…

          the rest is basically just you hoping on future development that hasn’t even happened yet, I’m hoping for something similar as well but that doesn’t mean it will actually happen. I already said it on the previous page, that I also expect Sanji to get his fight and his moment to make up for his loss here but my point right now is why have something Sanji has to make up for to begin with?

        • - - July 20, 2016 at 12:10 pm #

          The only party being delicate here is you Nidai. You don’t see it but your responses here are borderline Homohige like.

          That part contrasting Marco and Sanji. Really? You just rebuked Nickname on valid points then went there..

        • Sakanade - July 20, 2016 at 12:17 pm #

          Criticism isnt illogical. You cant reason With how People like and dislike a fictional story. There is no standard approach to assessing the intetions of any story, or even that anything is wrong With disliking something that has barely started.

          Nickname is clearly making predictions about this arc’s focus on Sanji BASED upon the past treatment of Sanji. Its a disappointing start to the arc looking at the spoiler, hes looking at everything post-timeskip until know. The disappointments keep piling.

        • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 12:19 pm #

          I agree with everything nickname has said so far, and even fame here is addressing your attitude nidai. The fact is your being childish for coming outright dissing us for being to childish and stupid to comprehend an understanding of the chapter when all we’re doing is discussing our points of view on the chapter.

        • Sakanade - July 20, 2016 at 12:25 pm #

          Calling somebody childish while Reading a childrens story…

        • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

          ok lets see…

          you’re complaining about Sanji’s portrayal, why?

          1) because he was defeated by Vergo…

          but did he? no, he didn’t lose, Sanji arrived to save the marines and they clashed for a few moments before separating, but he never lost, in fact as was pointed out Sanji had been greatly handicapped. i even showed just how much more powerful Sanji would have been had he not been nerfed.

          2) because he was defeated by Doflamingo…

          Doflamingo stopped him using Parasite, an ability that was even able to stop Jozu in his tracks, Jozu, one of the strongest members of WBs crew, and yet somehow being stopped by an opponent that even Jozu couldn’t escape from, makes Sanji out to be weak.
          since when did being comparable to Jozu become a bad thing?

          3) because he was defeated by his father…

          sure because using cheap tricks has never allowed a weaker opponent to defeat someone who’s actually stronger than them, especially at an early point in the arc when the crew isn’t invested enough in fighting back or the arc hasn’t reach a dire enough point.
          or are we forgetting how Luffy Zoro went from not being strong enough to defeat the weakest members of CP9 to overwhelming their strongest members..
          or i’ll give a Sanji specific one, when he went from almost breaking Blueno’s tekkai (820 doriki) to burning right through Jabra’s (2180 doriki) who was almost 3x stronger than Blueno

          but yeah, Sanji’s been incredibly disappointing, Oda should do something about that…

        • nickname - July 20, 2016 at 1:25 pm #

          not sure if this was directed at me but this wasn’ just about Sanji’s performance during his fights and I actually agree that he didn’t do nearly as bad as many say, this isn’t just about fuck Oda for foddering Sanji all the time.

          Vergo got Sanji but the same applies the other way around and Doflamingo praised his strength before he trapped him to get an attack in that in no way would have finished or defeated Sanji, then Law got involved. I’m not judging his performance against Judge until I actually read the chapter, so no further comments there.

          however, the thing is, while Sanji didn’t do too bad in these fights, he also didn’t really do well or get a moment to properly showcase the full extent of his abilities.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 1:35 pm #

          nah this was for Amashi, he’s the one talking about how he’s disappointed in Sanji’s portrayal.

          but why would he get that moment?
          against Vergo i already mentioned that he was already handicapped, that was intentional to avoid him defeating Vergo as he was meant to be Law’s opponent.
          Doflamingo was meant to be Luffy’s opponent and again it could be that Sanji wasn’t strong enough to get out of the Parasite, but as i said that doesn’t mean he was weak, just weaker than Doflamingo.

          also when showing off new abilities Oda uses it as a last line against powerful main opponents. just look at Zoro, with every new opponent in paradise he gained a new ability.
          Daz Bones – cut steel
          Ohm – flying slashes
          Kaku – Kyutoryu
          and every one of them was his final attack, similarly with Jabra and Sanji, Sanji didn’t pull out Diable Jambe until the end.

          the point of the power ups is to highlight their new strength and use it to overpower their opponent that’s why it’s always used against main antagonists and why Sanji didn’t use it against Doflamingo, it’s also why Zoro didn’t use Asura against Fujitora.

    • Sakanade - July 20, 2016 at 11:17 am #

      Nidai is right on the character Development, sooner or later any story would have to address that, its just Oda is handling this poorly.

      You have to Wonder why OP has been piss boring since the time-skip. And you cant jelp but notice the dramatic change in the art. And the stunning similarity between the Arcs. And yes a reduced focus on several SHs that stood for much of the manga’s fame, like Zoro. Plus the huge number of characters Oda needs to handle. Quantity is not quality.

      Now Wonder OP sales droppet more than 20 million the last 5 years. Myself and others believed OP would soon be 2nd, and yet we were wrong by a small margin.

      • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 11:22 am #

        Exactly, Oda is addressing everything and the bigger story itself leading to bigger things is pretty good, however the way he is handling character development is poorly executed. A big example would be Usopp, although a comedian like character, sometimes in the most serious cases making him look like a whiney scared loser is just not right. He had a good moment with sugar, but sometimes or most of the time he just drags on the scared little woose joke too much and too far and does it in cases where it just isn’t funny at all.

        • Sakanade - July 20, 2016 at 11:30 am #

          Its unbelievable that Usopp spent 2 years on the island didnt grow balls. Its possible to have a brave comedian among the strawhats but Oda wont take that risk.

          Now when hes grown some muscles and a beard he needs to grow courage. A Coward turned brave would be a good Development.

        • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 11:40 am #

          That really would be a great development. Yet I don’t see it happening anytime soon, which is kinda disappointing because it should’ve happened post time skip

        • Sakanade - July 20, 2016 at 11:45 am #

          It almost happend when Usopp fought Luffy on Enies Lobby, but following the arc he quicly reverted to his Coward self.

        • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 11:52 am #

          I thought it would happen after him challenging Trebol or his shining moment against monet, but he reverted back right after. It would be funny if he acts cowardly once or twice but constantly just gets sad and annoying

        • Sakanade - July 20, 2016 at 12:00 pm #

          He has potential because hes very intelligent when he wants, like the fight against Luffy was actually creative and entertaining.

          Just by being part of the SHs should make him very strong now.

        • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 12:20 pm #

          Exactly

    • - - July 20, 2016 at 12:21 pm #

      Some OP readers are super jihadi for the series. No light criticism goes unavenged.

      You gotta put these people in a box when you publish these kinds of posts.

      If you ink they’re are just fans like you then your perspective is perverse. Those who can criticise and those who cannot are fundamentaly different.

      There are Oda stans then there are OP fans..

      • nickname - July 20, 2016 at 12:42 pm #

        Nidai never really struck me as one of those ppl tho and when you back up or explain criticism like I tried to, you usually get normal responses as well, like when ppl like Logic or Leptor point out why they disagree.

        • - - July 20, 2016 at 12:51 pm #

          He definitely isn’t one of those guys but its uncomfortable watching someone be unnecessarily defensive.

          Every time I leave and drop by it seems personalities reverse. Those I expect to react like that didn’t, those I don’t did.

        • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 12:55 pm #

          Honestly I’m surprised as well, I haven’t been on this site in ages and now that I’m back Nidai is honestly acting wayy different from how he was before.

        • nickname - July 20, 2016 at 1:01 pm #

          well, almost everybody got overly defensive at some point, I certainly did as well, that doesn’t mean he’s different or reversed in some sort of way.

        • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 1:09 pm #

          Yeh Ik but, even after he called me whiney and all I admitted to it and apologized for it, and after I went on to properly state my views he comes out saying stuff like “childish” and “incapable of understanding”

          Now that wasn’t right to just straight up insult someone’s intelligence and call them childish just because of their view on a chapter.

  5. - July 20, 2016 at 10:42 am #

    Haha i see retards already frustrated. Nice.

    • Amashi - July 20, 2016 at 10:45 am #

      hey man its not cool to call people retards

  6. Pirate King - July 20, 2016 at 11:12 am #

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrjneJvS6dk
    BVS honest trailer

    • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 11:58 am #

      yeah saw it, it was good.

    • LogicoftheVI - July 20, 2016 at 1:08 pm #

      This shit was funny as hell saw it yesterday.

    • Power - July 20, 2016 at 1:11 pm #

      @pirateking @nidai @logic,i am on it,your guys comment must be honest,because currently, u guys watching honest trailer…

  7. Hakuba - July 20, 2016 at 11:23 am #

    i very disagree that sanji was again beaten by a single attack …..

    • - - July 20, 2016 at 12:25 pm #

      What in Oda’s name makes you think for second Sanji can’t pocket more L’s?

      • Hakuba - July 20, 2016 at 12:38 pm #

        because he was defeated like the spoiler said ? because he had right now his hand cuffed like slave ?

        • - - July 20, 2016 at 12:42 pm #

          I didn’t read it, just want to know why anyone believes Sanji is safe from an ass kicking

  8. Ganja - July 20, 2016 at 12:39 pm #

    So this is what Oda meant when he said “Sanji’s year”.
    Basically Sanji will get beaten worst than last year.

  9. - - July 20, 2016 at 12:39 pm #

    Some of us knew Sanji was a lame the second he told Zoro and Luffy to abandon their dreams..

    That was his introduction chapter but some have been reading on like it didn’t happen painting some picture about the man.

    To some Sanji had a badass introduction standing shoulder to shoulder with Luffy and Zoro.

    Having high expectations is cool, but falsifying a portrayal.. Sanji has the most unique, badass fighting style in OP that’s it.

    The character however.. only Billy can be condescending enough to describe him as of late.

    If Oda can give readers back the Sanji from Alabasta and Water 7.. he’d have a chance at redemption.

    • Vinsmoke [ ] Sanji - July 20, 2016 at 12:47 pm #

      Man, I hate to agree but I do. My Okama Sanji doing so bad

      • - - July 20, 2016 at 12:58 pm #

        Its not down to him, I’ve always said after the time skip Oda’s intention was to distinguish Zoro and Luffy from him.

        Something he did not do as strongly pre time skip but the way he has written him leading up to and since the time skip is evident to that. We don’t even have to factor the training to see that..

        • - July 20, 2016 at 1:03 pm #

          I agree with that.

        • Power - July 20, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

          @–,luffy said that sanji was his strong nakama,i believe that what luffy earlier statement will show some surprise about sanji on this arc later

        • Nidai Kitetsu - July 20, 2016 at 1:21 pm #

          Sanji can be one of the strongest SHs while also being distinct from Luffy and Zoro, i’ve pointed this out in a prediction about a monster quartet made of 2 different groups. Luffy and Zoro, then Sanji and Jinbe.

        • - - July 20, 2016 at 1:21 pm #

          Readers have been rehearsing that line since 2010. Feel free to wait out the next 2 years in addition to the 6 already passed.

          Luffy calls a lot of insignificant characters strong. Even fodder. Sanji is strong, that doesn’t make his strength sigmificant.

          Just like Cavendish or Rebecca, it depends on context but for other characters like Luffy, Zoro, Jinbe, Law etc, strong just means strong and is relevant in any context.

        • Power - July 20, 2016 at 1:33 pm #

          @nidai,yup I guess what u said was right

        • Power - July 20, 2016 at 1:45 pm #

          @–,what u said was basically of disappointment,but sanji sure was strong guys,in term of speed and kicking ability,it just the timing still hadn’t show his secret moves. There are always possibility of what will happen later on.you think oda put them 2Y training just to show some basic fight like diable jamble, I believe,evry character still didn’t show their ougi,like zoro still didn’t open his eye(it just like HIEI the guys on Yuyu hakusho)

        • Pxking - July 20, 2016 at 2:02 pm #

          nidai you shouldnt argue with these hypocrites tbvh.
          if sanji would have defeated jajji then they would have simply berated sanji by saying that germa’s were weak as an excuse,so either way they will drag down sanji.so its actually good that Oda portrayed Germa’s as no pushover and stong tbh.so it will be better later on when he defeats jajji.

          P.S-this forums have most sanji haters.

        • Pirate King - July 20, 2016 at 2:33 pm #

          “if sanji would have defeated jajji then they would have simply berated sanji by saying that germa’s were weak as an excuse,so either way they will drag down sanji.” THIS

        • Great General Ri Shin - July 20, 2016 at 2:41 pm #

          Yep, Ether way its a double edge sword.

          If Sanji defeat his father. The Sanji’s hater will say. The Germa are a bunch of fodders.

          Now that Judge defeat Sanji, they will now say Sanji is a disappointment and eat those Ls.
          At least we have a clear indicator (well to me) that Judge is at least low admiral level like Doffy.
          He defeated Sanji who imo is vice admiral level quite easily.

  10. Ganja - July 20, 2016 at 1:18 pm #

    I only had one thing to wish for sanji told kuma he would be the most dangerous in the crew, hoepefully oda didnt forget that. Sanji has been doing really really bad. As of right now francky >Sanji all he had to do was hold his dad until his brothers pulled up to interrupt the fight. We all knew this wouldnt go anywhere anyway smh

  11. Pxking - July 20, 2016 at 1:52 pm #

    losing in first battle isnt quite unusual in One piece,is it?.why are ppl going nuts.
    i mean pretty much expected it coming.i mean we always know in new arcs luffy gets defeated first then fights again win.
    Why are you guys reacting like retards.think with sense atleast.

    and for the ppl doubting Oda’s words on Sanji’s year.it would simply mean that this Arc’s protaniganist is mostly going to be sanji who will defeat Jajji later on.

    just a Hypothetical scenario,
    assuming Sanji had defeated jajji and co??
    What would be your reaction???
    Ohh well they are fodders and weak to berate sanji.

    You guys are simply Hypocrites tbvh.i havent seen such bunch of sanji haters in other forums that i have seen here.

    • Pxking - July 20, 2016 at 1:53 pm #

      so either way you are going to berate sanji.so why the F do you guys even try??

      Hypocrites to the core.

    • Pxking - July 20, 2016 at 1:55 pm #

      and anyways its good that Germas arent Portrayed weak(or else sanji haters would get another excuse).
      So i am expecting more from the arc.
      Not really dissappointed from the summary since the things are actually getting spiced up after a long time.

  12. Bwahahaha - July 20, 2016 at 2:36 pm #

    Disregarding Mad and Billy’s bias remarks against Sanji, I agree that he is the number 1 subject of controversy in this site. I believe that he has the worst character portrayal after TS. If you take a look at his fights, it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s weak as oppose to Billy and Mad’s claim but hell, he’s suppose to show even more. He’s suppose to be stronger than how he was shown in his previous battles.

    • Pxking - July 20, 2016 at 2:42 pm #

      true.thats y i believe oda will deliver in this arc.i think sanji will be the one who will defeat the main antagonist of this arc(jajji).i dont think luffy will even get to fight Big mam.
      and thats y i think he showed us this kind of portrayal of germa’s and think why sanji hated germa’s and his family.

      Plus most of the times we always see losses in first fights.we shouldnt forget that.

    • Great General Ri Shin - July 20, 2016 at 2:43 pm #

      There a One Piece section 833 :3

    • - July 20, 2016 at 4:50 pm #

      Wtf have you been reading? When did i say hes weak? I’ve been saying that hes the stronger Vinsmoke ever since the family was introduced.