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One Piece 849 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第849話

2016 December 6

One Piece 849 Spoilers: The last Chapter end with Pudding comes to meet Luffy. She comes into the prison thanks to the bookmark. She apologizes Luffy for what has occurred so far.……!!! So what happens next..? find out story on One Piece 848 Spoiler Discussion 「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第849話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoiler or prediction, please leave a comment below.

One Piece 849 Spoilers Summaries

source: Shitaraba
trans: sandman

Chapter title is Chobro in Mirror World.

In the cover page, protagonists in other Shonen Jump mangas wear ONE PIECE characters’ costumes.

Brulee’s house

Carrot is about to be thrown into a furnace, but actually it is not real Carrot. It is a frog whose shape is the same as Carrot somehow (Brulee’s DF?).

Real Carrot is hiding in an attic. Carrot makes a sneaking attack and saves the frog. She turns over the furnace.
Brulee is shouting due to the hot water. Randolph gets an electrical shock due to the hot water attacked by Carrot’s Electro.

Chopper goes on a rampage via Brain Point and Ramble Ball. They finally take control of Mirror World.

Sanji’s room

Sanji cooks a dish for Pudding, who was not in a good mood.

Treasure Room

Big Mom shows up in front of Brook, who gets hold of the key from military guard

courtyard

Pedro confronts with Tamago. Pedro’s 50 years’ life span was taken by Big Mom when he was captured 5 years ago.

Castle

Reiju is heading for somewhere with her body/face full of blood.

One Piece 849 Spoiler Trivia: Luffy appeared in a Shonen Jump special, where Enel attacks Tokyo and Odaiba. Goku arrives to fight Enel and Luffy appears to help him. Luffy and Goku make an attack called “Gomu Gomu no Kamehame Ha” and they destroy Enel.

1,181 Responses to “One Piece 849 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第849話”

  1. antarus - December 10, 2016 at 10:41 am #

    Vegapunk will be sanji’s enemy.

    at first I used to think it’s franky’s enemy since they both do cyborg Technology

    sora is vegapunk.

    vegapunk next to his pacifistas, while judge next to his clones

    Judge and vegapunk used to be part of same science squad. vegapunk got captured, while judge got away.

    They became rivals, and that lead to the comic book stories, germa strip.

    Sanji vs vegapunk, will make sanji the greatest scientist in the world. That why sanji said he will give biggest trouble to wg in the end, because he will be world’s best scientist

    afterall, cooking is science.

    • antarus - December 10, 2016 at 10:43 am #

      sora , the guy next to the robots fighting germa, is the creator of the robots himself.

      • antarus - December 10, 2016 at 10:45 am #

        same way how sicentist judge leads his creations in the comic book

    • antarus - December 10, 2016 at 10:44 am #

      note how vegapunk is known for walking on water, he can fly just like sanji with skywalk.

    • Tomodachi - December 10, 2016 at 10:51 am #

      Still better than “Zoro injured Reiju.”

  2. antarus - December 10, 2016 at 10:45 am #

    I cracker the fackin code.

    It was so obvious, idk why I didn’t see it.

    VEGAPUNK=SORA

    • antarus - December 10, 2016 at 10:46 am #

      *cracked

  3. antarus - December 10, 2016 at 10:58 am #

    Sanji’s germa66 will defeat the pacifistas in the final war, unlike the comic strip since vegapnuk won all the time.

  4. antarus - December 10, 2016 at 11:22 am #

    trump’s face reminds me of the grinch. he fits as this year’s santa claus

    • antarus - December 10, 2016 at 11:23 am #

      he will take all your gifts and force you to work on Christmas lol

    • Death - December 10, 2016 at 11:46 am #

      I am calling it now. Sora is Condoriano.

      • Death - December 10, 2016 at 11:48 am #

        It is not supposed to be a reply.

      • antarus - December 10, 2016 at 11:51 am #

        i have to Google his name to know Who he is lol

  5. Opfan - December 10, 2016 at 1:29 pm #

    Since zoro attacked reiju, why not Vergo attacked reiju. Duhhh.

    • Savage - December 10, 2016 at 4:00 pm #

      Wah..

    • Goldroger - December 10, 2016 at 4:41 pm #

      It was gaimon who ambushed reiju

  6. - - December 10, 2016 at 5:00 pm #

    Spamming is only okay when you are trolling. At least then you have reason for being annoying, fuck..

  7. Blink Blink No Mi - December 10, 2016 at 7:29 pm #

    Whereabouts of Kuzan?

    • Nidai Kitetsu - December 11, 2016 at 1:16 am #

      well the last thing we know about Kuzan is that he ratted out that there would be a fight between the Revolutionaries and the Blackbeard pirates.

      I suspect that he’s using Blackbeard to search for the level 6ers.

      • kom5 - December 11, 2016 at 9:56 pm #

        He sees Blackbeard as the greatest threat in the world which must be stopped unlike you who tends to underestimate him Kuzan didnt make that mistake

      • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:10 am #

        I like to think that Kuzan is still in touch with Sengoku – and the two has a sort of Itachi & Third Hokage relationship with the comparison of Itachi/Kuzan feeding information about the shady organizations they infiltrated.

  8. Sane - December 10, 2016 at 9:45 pm #

    I can already imagine a page where all 9 titans stand side by side, showing all of them in 1 big page.

  9. Death - December 11, 2016 at 8:59 am #

    Test.

  10. Sakanade - December 11, 2016 at 6:31 pm #

    Can’t believe this, who said Zoro injured Reiju?

    • Tomodachi - December 12, 2016 at 10:23 am #

      Why was this comment under moderation? o.O

  11. GomoGomoNo - December 11, 2016 at 10:30 pm #

    Luffy on Wano has a rag tag group of…
    -Sanji
    -Pedro
    -Carrot
    -Brook
    -Chopper
    -Nami

    + possibly Zeff if he shows, Vinsmokes if they turn, Bonney/Lola if they show up, Beast Collection, and Jinbe(status unknown he might only show up at the end)

    ————————

    Luffy on Wano will have a Ninja-Pirate-Mink-Samurai Alliance…
    -Marco
    -Jinbe
    -Law
    -Zoro
    -Sanji
    -Inu
    -Neko
    -Pedro
    -Carrot
    -Franky
    -Sicilian
    -other 2 Muskeeteers
    -Brook
    -Bepo
    -Kinemon
    -Kanjuro
    -Raizo
    -Wanda
    -Jean Bart
    -Chopper
    -Usopp
    -Robin
    -Nami

    + possibly Moriah and crew seeking payback, whatever strong Samurai/Ninja have been holding the rebellion thus far, any other WB pirates that may be with Marco, and also the minks will get a boost from their “Trump card”-“true strength”-“full moon” transformation.

    …I mean come on, does anyone still think Big Mom is going down now? Honestly, not even counting that the arc is more than half done, if Big Mom was THAT much weaker than Kaido he would have crushed her a long time ago and took her road poneglyph.

    • GomoGomoNo - December 11, 2016 at 10:58 pm #

      …lol, wait, the first one should say *Luffy on WCI

    • Blink Blink No Mi - December 11, 2016 at 11:50 pm #

      You forgot the Supernovas on Wano too – it is still unknown who is on whose’s side atm with their crews. Kidd pirates against Kaido for sure.

      • GomoGomoNo - December 11, 2016 at 11:59 pm #

        That’s true…

        + possibly Kidd, Killer, X-Drake, Hawkins, and Apoo if they turn.

    • Blink Blink No Mi - December 11, 2016 at 11:57 pm #

      But yeah – made this argument a few weeks ago, fell on deaf ears then super aggressive disputes.

      Just let the story pan out man – the other side will admit it when the time comes. Else we’ll have the same shouting match every week.

      • GomoGomoNo - December 11, 2016 at 11:59 pm #

        lol, yeah, I know, I was just bored.

    • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:02 am #

      Using Oda’s style and past arcs – this does not even account for the local samurai in Wano who supports Kinemon’s uprising.

      So we are bound to have more characters on Luffy’s side. In addition, as many theorizes, Wano could also be where the Marines/3rd Admiral shows up.

      It is really this sort of setup, with these numbers of big names and scale of war, that I see as a stage for a Yonko to go down. As compared to…oh, well..forget it.

      • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 12:07 am #

        Yeah, I’m totally on bored with the theory of Greenbull showing up on Wano. Specifically because Oda said that Marines don’t go there, he can’t pass up this opportunity to show us just how Samurai react when marines wander over to Wano.

        Plus the likely hood that Greenbull is a Zoan and Wano is going to be about zoans/smiles/minks as much as Samurai. After all Kaido’s crew is called the Beasts Pirates.

    • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:05 am #

      Man, just looking at this setup – Luffy’s side already overwhelms the fodders and seep into the upper echelons of Beast Pirates with proper matchup for each of the 3 calamities (who’s going to fish Kaido out :) ).

      That means it’s Kaido versus the strongest Supernovas + Luffy in the end.

      • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 12:09 am #

        You think it will be a group battle to the end? Or start as a group battle and end up as 1v1?

        • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:13 am #

          As much as many would not like to admit, I am going for a group battle but with Luffy carrying most of the fight.

          This is because of the extent we have seen G4 – I think from WCI, Luffy will discover and delve into greater forms of G4 to aid their escape/struggle, but he definitely needs to improve before facing Kaido.
          Realistically, he did not gain training to improve – and Oda isn’t likely to give a power-up out of nowhere.

          It will be analogous to Law & Luffy vs Doflamingo fight, that fight is a foreshadowing of a new ‘level’ for Luffy; and it’ll be the same for Luffy & co vs Kaido.

        • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:16 am #

          ^which is why I had always thought that WCI was that smooth progression between these ‘levels’ of feats for Luffy.

          It just makes very little sense that he would jump from Sichibukai level to Yonko level with little experience fit in between. If he beats BM now, he is in the top 0.000000001% of the New World.

          So what’s going to happen to SHs in the remaining 30% of One Piece? Only fight Yonko, one-shot everyone else, then a final war?

          That’s rather lame, in my opinion and I would probably stop reading after Shanks fall.

        • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 12:18 am #

          I think it will be dependent on if he awakens before then and how much that benefits his abilities. If it gives him a lot more elaborate powers and/or allows him to stay in G4 for a lot longer, I can see Luffy fighting Kaido 1v1 for the majority of the fight.

          But either I think Kaido will definitely take on a group of them first, just to hype his strength before he goes down.

    • - December 12, 2016 at 12:14 am #

      Except that we havent seen any of the party guests yet, whom many people have predicted that they’ll help Luffy out and only Oda knows what kind of powerful people could be brought out.

      Also, dont forget that BM’s ultimate force is her 4 sweet commanders. One has already been defeated by Luffy and the other has been conveniently taken out by Bege.

      Remember WB’s crew was also consisted of 4 really strong commanders while the others were that that impressive. That should be the case with BM too. So far, there’s Luffy for BM Sanji and Jinbe for the remaining two sweet commanders, and a match up which seems already decided – Pedro v Tamago.

      Nami, Brook, Chopper, Carrot have already shown us they’re capable of handling a few lower ranked commanders. Then there’s the Vinsmokes and of course Capone though his role is a mystery for now.

      Clearly its not as bad as you made it seem.

      • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:18 am #

        Think Tea Party is next week?

        We can judge then when we see their intro.

        • - December 12, 2016 at 12:22 am #

          Yeah i guess so. Though Pudding will be missing and im not sure how things will unfold if BM sees whats going on.

        • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:27 am #

          Lol, I sincerely think it’s because Pudding is planning to kill herself, was in the process of doing so, Reiju intervened, BM homies/chess soldiers see and attack her because they misinterpret the situation.

          But while many stated it’s Bege’s castle – I loved the idea, except I looked back and saw a panel of WCI castle before the adjacent panel cutting to Reiju (which is rather contradictory to this interesting idea of Bege’s acting on his plan).

      • - December 12, 2016 at 12:18 am #

        Correction : the sweet commander was taken out by Urouge

      • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:23 am #

        But honestly, looking at Gomu’s post and what you’ve written – I would have said you verified his/her points.

        That if BM’s crew was able to be taken down by the current setup, then Kaido & his crew seems to demand more effort on Luffy’s part (BASED ON WHO ARE ALREADY IN WANO/GOING TO WANO, bearing in mind this excludes the large population of suppressed Samurai and delegates to the Wano royal bloodline, who would have produced the sort of firepower that Tea Party guests might).

        Case in point, it really isn’t balanced in terms of what is required to take out BM versus what is IN STORE for Kaido.

        • - December 12, 2016 at 12:32 am #

          Lol did you missed the point where i said that two out of BM’s elite four are already out?

          That would be like cancelling out Zoro and Marco if you want to with that Wano team comparison.

          Then what remains? Robin and Franky? Yeah sure they’re strong but not irreplaceable.

          Not to mention that the Shogun who’s most definitely gonna be Zoro’s match up (which means he’ll most likely be the strongest foe outside of Kaido) is likely not even part of Kaido’s crew but an ally instead.

        • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:36 am #

          Then I can say you still have Neko&Inu, the combination of which, is at a commander’s level?

          I can’t even judge who else is with Marco – hence I want to be conservative with my theory. It depends if you see Jozu/Vista is still with Marco right?

          Then how about Sanji and Jinbei, who you willingly put up to the tasks of fighting commanders on WCI? How about on Wano?

          1 calamity can fight with one of the following people/group:
          – Law/Kidd/Luffy
          – Zoro
          – Neko&Inu
          – Marco
          – Vista/Jozu???? **
          – Jimbei
          – Sanji

        • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:38 am #

          ^Based on WCI, there is no rule that every fight must occur simultaneously.

          As in Luffy is able to take out a commander and go for a Yonko, BM right?

          So let’s be fair and apply that here. You’ll see there are a surplus of calamity level fighters.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 2:40 am #

          but that’s the difference, whenever there is a mismatch in opponents Luffy will fight 2 people, Mohji, Mr 3, Blueno. but when everyone is accounted for there is a pure 1 v 1 match up for everyone.

          in Totto land the events are covering several days, over which a number of Big Mom’s crew have fallen, slowly whittling her numbers down to make the final match ups.

          in Wano everyone is being set up with a match up from the start, meaning that Luffy won’t be fighting 2 opponents.

          also the Germa will not be in Wano so there’s 5 characters that match up with commanders that will be replaced by 5 other characters in Wano.

        • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 9:12 am #

          All I can say is that this statement,
          ‘in Wano everyone is being set up with a match up from the start, meaning that Luffy won’t be fighting 2 opponents.’ is wholly unfair given that Wano didn’t even start while BM arc is at 50%. If anything, Kaidou will dismiss Luffy due to ego and only send commanders one by one, much like BM.

      • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:25 am #

        You have the remnants of WB pirates (many of which are no doubt Yonko level commanders…) plus Zoro would have balanced the 3 calamities already.

        Minks, each Supernova’s crews, samurai, WB fodders, SHs would have dealt with Beast Pirates fodders.

      • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 12:26 am #

        Saying we don’t know who the guest list is like saying you may or may not win the lottery tomorrow. That’s completely random. And for people like the Vinsmokes I put under possibles because we don’t know where the story is going. You can make just as many random additions to the Wano team too, which is why I placed all of that for both sides as +possibles.

        As for her crew, it’s not just the Sweet Commanders, others like Bobbin, Amande, Mont-D’Or, Opera, Gallete, all look very strong. Not to mention the ~15 other commanders we could barely spot. Nami got handled easily by Gallete alone despite having her weather powers enhanced by Big Mom’s cloud. She stood no chance and I don’t think Chopper would fair much better. He took out a goofy aligator. Pedroo, Carrot, and Brook would be fine, but Brook and Pedro might be dropped in the next chapter and fall into that +possible list.

    • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 12:44 am #

      ROFL, just thinking about it now – this ragtag team was really not much of an upgrade from what we seen at Impel Down.

      Some Yonko Big Mom is, huh.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 1:46 am #

      so your full list for Totto Land becomes

      Luffy
      Sanji
      Jinbe
      Pedro
      Caesar
      Nami
      Chopper
      Brook
      Carrot
      Jujji
      Ichiji
      Niji
      Yonji
      Reiju
      Bege
      Aladdin
      Wadatsumi

      Sun pirates
      Nox pirates
      Germa army

      on top of that
      – 2 of the sweet commanders have already been beaten,
      – 1 of her ministers has already been beaten,
      – Brulee, Randolph, Diesel and Noble Croc already beaten,
      if my prediction below is accurate then
      – 3 more are about to be beaten and all before the main fights even start.

      that’s 6 Ministers defeated before the fights even start. leaving 28 Ministers for the main fight of which the top 16 can be accounted for by Luffy’s team

      • Opfan - December 12, 2016 at 1:52 am #

        Ceasar vs perospespero
        Pedro vs tamago
        N most of bm’s fighters aren’t worthy. I mean, diesel n co were beaten just like that.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 2:27 am #

          I think most of the fighters are just homies, diesel was probably a steam train that was turned into a homie.

          it’s the Ministers that are the actual fighters and so far all of them are her children.

      • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 2:52 am #

        …???… you just took a bunch of the possibles and unknowns and listed them next to the actuals. Possibilities and Potentials are not “Luffy’s team”. And even then you’re still left with a bunch of empty spots by your own counting.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 3:15 am #

          we’ve seen only 3 of Big Mom’s allied crews so far, the Sun pirates, the Nox pirates and the Fire tank pirates, all of whom are expected to turn on her, but Big Mom is certain to have many more allies than that, given that all the ones introduced are already showing that they’ll oppose her, it’s only logical that others will follow suit.

          not to mention that there’s an entire library of angry creatures and unique human species that will have a grudge against her as well, just as the toys did against Doflamingo.

        • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 4:02 am #

          Just because some guys are unhappy doesn’t mean everyone is. These guys are all off doing there own thing and come together when summoned by the Yonko. And we don’t even know if there are any Nox pirates anymore. Nor do we know what will happen with those beasts. Again, these are all just personal expectations and predictions. I put this stuff under possible, what I listed was the actual sides at this moment in manga time.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 4:24 am #

          I agree that obviously all of them wont be, but having everyone introduced thus far is a clear sign of distaste for Big Mom among her allies, especially given her dictatorial stance on everything.

          we know that there are Nox pirates, we saw one of them approach Pedro in Cacao island and mention the others, Pekoms is likely an ally of Big Mom’s like Bege, not a direct crew member.

          the beasts should be quite obvious, I don’t see why you would be questioning that

        • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 4:31 am #

          Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that random guy who ran up to Pedro.

          I “expect” the beasts but it hasn’t happened yet, thus it’s just a prediction right now.

  12. GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 12:54 am #

    Does anyone else think Pedro looks terrible in the anime? They removed his spots and made his face chunkier. He looks badass in the manga and he looks like damn teddy bear in the anime.

    …I know it’s because of animation simplification, but damn, I was looking forward to his badass WCI scenes animated…

    • Opfan - December 12, 2016 at 1:13 am #

      Yeah, what a fatso

  13. Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 1:33 am #

    except for Smoothie, all Big Mom’s children introduced in full already (name, epithet, minister title, child #) will be defeated before the Tea Party.
    that means Opera, Galette and Mont D’or will all be defeated soon.

    Mont D’or will be defeated by the Vinsmoke’s as revenge for Reiju (framed by Bege) which releases the book prisons
    Opera will be defeated by luffy because he’s guarding their book prison and Galette will be defeated by Nami for the same reason.

    when the real fights start
    Ichiji, Niji and Yonji will fight Opera’s full blooded brothers.
    including Opera we saw 4 of them all together, all of them are the Ministers of different cream islands.
    Opera – Whipped Cream
    Brother 1 – Coffee Cream
    Brother 2 – Double Cream
    Brother 3 – Half Cream

    Jujji will fight Bobbin and either Reiju or Nami will fight Amand.

    Brook, Chopper, Carrot and Nami/Reiju will fight new characters.

    • Opfan - December 12, 2016 at 1:43 am #

      Plus Aladdin, he is at least low va level, he can be count on. He’s the current captain of sun pirate, he’s surely a capable person.
      Wadatsumi also available (well, not worth it but he can at least beat 1 of bm’s child)

      • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 1:51 am #

        well yeah I wasn’t mentioning everyone. since I didn’t even mention some of the other match ups like Pedro, Sanji, jinbe

        but here’s a full list:
        Luffy v Big Mom
        Sanji v Katakuri
        Jinbe v Smoothie
        Jujji v Bobbin
        Reiju v Amand
        Ichiji v Opera 2
        Niji v Opera 3
        Yonji v Opera 4
        Caesar v Perospero
        Pedro v Tamago
        Brook v ____
        Nami v ____
        Chopper v ____
        Carrot v ____
        Aladine v ____
        Wadatsumi v _____

        • Opfan - December 12, 2016 at 1:54 am #

          And Pound can’t be that weak, can he?

        • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 2:28 am #

          idk, he seems like a coward and not a fighter so I don’t expect much from him in battle, although I did suspect that he was tied with an important group that would help, maybe that’s where he’s gone to now, although it may be more likely that he’s just gone to see Chiffon.

        • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 2:55 am #

          …that is a lists “IF” everything you predict happens. Anyone can predict anything to “happen”, but that’s just a prediction. This is the current reality of the situation…

          -Big Mom Pirates-
          Luffy vs Big Mom
          _____ vs Katakuri
          _____ vs Smoothie
          _____ vs Mont-d’Or
          _____ vs Bobbin
          _____ vs Opera
          _____ vs Gallete
          _____ vs Perospero
          _____ vs Amande
          Pedro vs Tamago
          _____ vs White Hair Swordsmen
          _____ vs Beard Guy w/Mini Girl
          _____ vs Big White Hair Prison clothes
          _____ vs Other Big Beard guy
          _____ vs Broad shoulder Santa Clause
          _____ vs Tall Hat Guy with rifle
          _____ vs Long Girl
          _____ vs Long Guy
          _____ vs Long Arm “100”
          _____ vs Bowl Hat Umbrella Boy
          _____ vs Zeus
          _____ vs Prometheus

          -Vinsmokes-
          Sanji vs Judge
          Carrot vs Ichiji
          Brook vs Niji
          Chopper vs Yonji
          Nami vs Reiju

          -Firetank Pirates-
          _____ vs Capone
          _____ vs Vito
          _____ vs Gotti

          This is not even considering that we know all Yonko have all kinds of allied captains just like Capone(Whitebeard had like 40+ IIRC). If anyone’s going to be invited to her Tea Party they are. Also the other ministers, other strong homies, and fighters we haven’t seen yet. I highly doubt Katakuri and Smoothie, who just returned, travel around without a crew. But to take my own advice, that’s all just a prediction and thus not listable here.

        • Death - December 12, 2016 at 3:53 am #

          @GomoGomoNo

          “…that is a lists “IF” everything you predict happens. Anyone can predict anything to “happen”, but that’s just a prediction. This is the current reality of the situation…”

          Well, agree, that is a prediction. And since you are talking about the “current reality of situation”, so in my opinion, you shouldn’t put The Vinsmokes’ match ups on your list. This part is specalutive as well.

        • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 3:58 am #

          Well, I suppose technically the families are not married yet, but the Vinsmokes have already attacked the strawhats when they first entered Totto Land territory. So it seems they are already in some kind of agreement to fight on the same side. At least to ensure the wedding goes through, which would come in to play if fighting starts during the tea party.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 4:07 am #

          sure anything can be predicted, but making proper predictions requires reading between the lines, reading into the scenes and details and understanding their purpose and intentions.

          why introduce Mont D’or, Galette and Opera in full when Tamago who was introduced all the way back in Fishman island still hasn’t been introduced properly?

          why show Brook’s power over Big Mom’s homies and then have Big Mom herself confront him?

          why have Cracker and Snack defeated before the fight while keeping Smoothie and Katakuri?

          etc. these are all hints, the details have purpose behind them and a good prediction factors in those details.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 4:09 am #

          attacked the SHs? you mean when Reiju saved Luffy and then just left?

        • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 4:26 am #

          Yeah predictions and predictions, but I was only listing currents.

          Likewise though my prediction is that all of the introductions are being done now and the rest at the tea party because this is her turf and this is where they should be introduced. Also giants will be introduced on Elbaf, so you don’t want to have too many intros to deal with.

          Your right about the Vinsmokes, I was remembering that wrong, I just recalled the big ass ship rolling up and Yonji being all aggressive. But they never actually fought.

    • Death - December 12, 2016 at 3:18 am #

      Where do you get those titles (Coffee, Double, Half)? If I recall correctly, Opera’s brothers haven’t been introduced yet.

      • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 4:01 am #

        Opera is the Minister of Whipped cream, strange how he’d be so specific to 1 type of cream. so I looked up different kinds of cream and found that in Switzerland there are 4 types of cream.
        Whipped, Double, Half and Coffee.
        the Switzerland style is shared with Italy, Italy being the birth place of Opera music.

        also if you look at the designs of the characters their looks seem to match with that, the one with the striped shirt is half cream, since he’s wearing a black and white shirt, half and half. the one carrying the girl is coffee since he’s got the darker look similar to coffee colour.

        and the name of their attack against Luffy was themed after cream, even though neither of the ones that punched him were Opera.

        • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 4:03 am #

          You know I had to read that a couple times. I thought Opera was the guy who shouted Cream Punch, lol. I wonder why they shouted that anyway, when they just used a basic haki punch, not an actual cream attack.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 4:10 am #

          only Opera has a cream DF and there isn’t going to be 4 different DFs for each variant of cream, hell even different DFs for varying dairy products is stupid.

          that’s why I think they’re all ministers of different cream based islands, thus the cream theme of their attacks.

  14. Bwahahaha - December 12, 2016 at 2:01 am #

    So Shin will now officially wield Ou Ki’s Glaive… Just wow…

  15. Opfan - December 12, 2016 at 2:06 am #

    Bm wanted to kill lola, Pound will surely do something. If he can’t fight, he can be a guide to the palace, or another strategic act.

    • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 2:57 am #

      Hasn’t he been stuck in the forest? If big Mom had found Lola’s location and sent someone after her, what could he do?

      • Opfan - December 12, 2016 at 3:47 am #

        Don’t judge a book from its cover. Senor pink, mr 2, mr 3, buggy, etc.

        • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 3:55 am #

          I don’t mean he couldn’t fight at all, I just mean he seemed like he was stuck in there.

    • burnhotspot - December 12, 2016 at 5:36 am #

      what if he’s a Yonko lvl fighter and that he’s just simply too insecure about himself that he’s not good… :P

      that turn of events would be so nice… lol

      • Law of Ueki - December 12, 2016 at 6:20 am #

        I actually thought the same thing. He will show his true strength after he hears that bm is going to kill his daughters (lola n chiffon, chiffon included because she’s with bege). Thus he’ll help luffy to fight bm or buy him some time. But nahh, ofc it won’t happen, lol.

  16. GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 2:59 am #

    Still looking over my predictions and I’m starting to warm up to the idea of their being 4 more crew members rather than just the 2.

    …Just warm though, I want to see what Luffy’s dialogue is for Jinbe and Carrot as the join…

  17. Leptor - December 12, 2016 at 3:31 am #

    I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that The Germa Kingdom will help the protagonists, but I don’t see why they would be any more likely to become Allies with the protagonists than The Big Mam Pirates. The Germa Kingdom has done more evil acts than what we’ve seen from The Big Mam Pirates so far, and at least The Big Mam Pirates have ethical goals. They at least want to unite all Races, which is pretty admirable. Additionally, the protagonists have helped Members of The Big Mam Pirates including some of their own Family Members. That to me seems like more reasons for The Big Mam Pirates to become friends with the protagonists than The Germa Kingdom. Especially when you consider that Sanji is a great cook and that both Crews love eating.

    I’m not necessarily saying that the Crews won’t match up at all, but currently there are far more reasons that they would become Allies at some point in the series than there are that The Germa Kingdom would become Allies with the protagonists.

    The amount of characters on both sides currently also makes The Germa Kingdom vs. the protagonists seem a lot more reasonable than a Yonkou Crew vs. the protagonists.

    • GomoGomoNo - December 12, 2016 at 4:06 am #

      That’s what I’m thinking too. I think when the shit hits the fan, Judge is going to step up and offer to take care of the problem because they are Sanji’s crew and thus his side of the marriage party who is ruining the party. Not to mention it will be a good display of the technical power Big Mom wants.

  18. Leptor - December 12, 2016 at 3:31 am #

    “so your full list for Totto Land becomes

    Luffy
    Sanji
    Jinbe
    Pedro
    Caesar
    Nami
    Chopper
    Brook
    Carrot
    Jujji
    Ichiji
    Niji
    Yonji
    Reiju
    Bege
    Aladdin
    Wadatsumi”

    Even assuming on the extremely unlikely chance that Sanji and Jinbe randomly go from being low to mid Yonkou Commander level to being more powerful than almost every non-Yonkou character in the series, also meaning that they would go most of the rest of the series without any power ups, and on the unlikely chance that The Germa Kingdom helps the protagonists- there are only 12 Yonkou Commander level characters at most on that list outside of Sanji, Luffy, and Jinbe. Even then, most of those 12 characters are low Yonkou Commander level. Even outside of the top 4 of 5 Yonkou Commanders on the Crew, there are still at least 15 (but possibly 40+) Yonkou Commanders. That’s assuming that Lord Snack and Lord Cracker don’t participate in the war, and that the First Mate is one of the 4 Sweet Commanders.

    That list still leaves at least several, if not 30+ Yonkou Commanders without match ups in addition to the Allied Pirate Crews and still includes those several assumptions, some of which aren’t even likely.

    Besides, that still wouldn’t change GomoGomoNo’s points. The Wano Country Arc list of Allies is still far superior to The Totland Arc list of Allies. GomoGomoNo is basically saying why would one Yonkou Crew require that much more firepower than another Yonkou Crew?

    • Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 9:17 am #

      +1
      At Wano, we are guaranteed at least 8 Yonko level fighters/groups. Even if the rest of BM arc goes with the matchups Nidai proposed, it doesn’t change the fact that BM crew is just of lower quality.

  19. Savage - December 12, 2016 at 6:42 am #

    Who needs One Piece, Kingdom is where it’s at! http://www.mangamint.com/kingdom-499 Too fucking hype!

    • Ganja - December 12, 2016 at 7:33 am #

      Ouki’s glaive ohh shit

  20. Billy - December 12, 2016 at 7:07 am #

    Zoro > Luffy.

    • David - December 12, 2016 at 7:40 am #

      Luffy>Zoro

    • kingkaidou - December 12, 2016 at 8:13 am #

      kaidou > all

  21. Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 8:43 am #

    prediction: the lead up to chaos

    http://nidaikitetsu.club/index.php/2016/12/12/the-lead-up-to-chaos/

  22. Blink Blink No Mi - December 12, 2016 at 9:20 am #

    Lol, are the Vinsmokes brothers even commander level?

    • antarus - December 12, 2016 at 9:28 am #

      depends.

      bb h as 10 commanders.

      bm had 4 now 3

      kaidou has 3

      they could fit in the bb 10 commanders

      but not in the 3 sweet commanders and 3 calamities

      • antarus - December 12, 2016 at 9:28 am #

        also wb had 16 commanders or was it 12

      • Nidai Kitetsu - December 12, 2016 at 10:17 am #

        Big Mom does not have 4 commanders she has 34, the sweet commanders are merely her top 4, like Kaido’s calamities.

        the commanders go by different titles for each crew.
        – Whitebeard’s were called Squad Leaders.
        – Big Mom’s are called Ministers.
        – Kaido’s are named by their DF ie. Mammoth Captain Jack
        – Blackbeard’s are called Titan Captains

        and yes WB had 16 commanders.

        • antarus - December 12, 2016 at 10:50 am #

          I guess he was talking about top commanders then, like sweet c or calamities.

          it hard to think they are weak enough not to fit in the 34 ministers, or 16 squad leaders.

          vinsmokes will fight big mom, they should be able to handle at least the normal crew of bm, since they are only 5, rest are vinsmokes soldiers

  23. Sakanade - December 12, 2016 at 9:33 am #

    @opfan you seen fairy tail spoiler?

    • burnhotspot - December 12, 2016 at 9:37 am #

      you mean the manga that’s newly converted to hentai?

      • Sakanade - December 12, 2016 at 9:43 am #

        NNT is becoming hentai too.

    • Law of Ueki - December 12, 2016 at 12:41 pm #

      Don’t care. But hey, from burn’s comment I can see that it’s a good decision that I dropped it.

      • Tomodachi - December 12, 2016 at 1:03 pm #

        Burn was making a general observation. This latest chapter had minimal fan service.

        • LogicoftheVI - December 12, 2016 at 1:32 pm #

          It really did have limited fan service just that one scene with Lucy laying on Natsu.

          Pretty good chapter though I wish the backstroy of 400 years ago had it’s own arc instead of being given to us the way it has been. I think it would have more impact if it came in one arc.

  24. antarus - December 12, 2016 at 9:44 am #

    Who is going to save reiju? the guy shot her legs so she doesn’t get away…

  25. antarus - December 12, 2016 at 10:04 am #

    what wedding ruining event will happen first?

    bomb explodes?

    pudding says no?

    beat up reiju shows up?

    rare animals escape the book?

    luffy escapes?

    and how will oda handle all this at the same time or

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