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One Piece 851 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第851話

2016 December 29

One Piece 851 Spoilers: The last Chapter end with Sanji shows an expressionless face listening to Pudding’s talk secretly in thunderstorm.……!!! So what happens next..? find out story on One Piece 851 Spoiler Discussion 「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第851話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoiler or prediction, please leave a comment below.

One Piece 851 Spoilers Summaries

source: Shitaraba
trans: sandman

Chapter title is “Moist Cigarette”.

According to Pudding, 6 member in Vinsmoke family will get riddled with bullets in tomorrow’s wedding.
Pudding provokes Reiju to be careful when she dies since Puddding is worried that their blood would make the wedding venue dirty.

Pudding brings a gun and shows how powerful it is. Actually she was the person who shot Reiju.
The gun is called “Candy Jacket”. It can penetrate even armored soldiers, which is why it had an effect on Reiju’s iron body.

Pudding is looking forward to see Sanji’s face when he was pointed a pistol by her. Nitro and Rabiyan laughs at Sanji.
“That’ll be fun!” “He believes Pudding is falling love with him.”

Pudding shows various kinds of facial expressions (ex. Enel’s “that” face) wondering how Sanji will react to her.

She tells Reiju about the words when Sanji made a marriage proposal.

Pudding “Sanji’s face is badly injured without the facial treatment mask.
He held me tight and said, “You’re my savior. Let’s get married.””

Nitro and Rabiyan laugh out hard. Pudding mimics Sanji’s injured face.
Reiju is looking the other way.

Sanji listens to her talk secretly and tries to light up his cigarette, but he can’t due to rain. Sanji’s facial expression is something like Moai..

Pudding can’t help laughing at his ugly marriage proposal.
Pudding “Who the heck is gonna marry you failed guy!”

Sanji continues trying to light up his cigarette, but he can’t. He hangs down his head and sheds tears with his body trembling.

* According to the spoiler provider, Sanji’s crying face is super-touching.

Scene changes to Brook.

Big Mom “Why do you stand up again? Are you so eager for the copy of Poneglyph instead of Sanji?”

Brook :
“Sanji is a kind person, so I thought he will never come back again.
I’m not sure what kinds of trap you made for him, but Sanji won’t stop once he decides to become a victim for someone since he is extremely gentle.”

“On the other hand, our captain is a man who sticks to his intention. This issue should be settled only between them.

“Even if Sanji decides not to come back, I’m gonna get Road Poneglyph so that we can declare that we’ve obtained a great treasure here with Sanji not blaming himself!”

Big Mom says the case in which Sanji never comes back is not the worst one. She asks why Brooks doesn’t consider his (Sanji/Brook?) death.

Brook “Who the heck will take into account someone’s death?”

Scene changes to Chopepr.

They intend to know the whereabouts of mirrors in Whole Cake Castle via tickling Brulee.
Brulee tells them to ask mirrors about it. According to her, all mirrors know what they are reflecting.

When Chopper and Carrot ask mirrors, mirrors ask what kinds of face they are searching for.
Carrot draws a portrait of Sanji. At last, a mirror which reflects Sanji replies to them.

Scene changes to Sanji.

He drops a bouquet of flowers and lunch (bento) on the ground.
He is just standing getting wet with rain.

Puddding tries to manipulate Reiju’s memory.
She thrusts her hand into Reiju’s head and rewrites her memory via Memo-Memo Devil Fruit ability.

Reiju’s memory is turning into a soldier who got injured due to a stray bullet.
Reiju loses consciousness.

Pudding “Your memory with me is no longer available. Let’s have a good wedding tomorrow.”

Out of the window, Sanji is not already out there with the lunch (bento).

Scene changes to Luffy.

Nami is shouting at the large amount of blood Luffy is bleeding from his hand.

Opera says he was ordered to get the information about whereabouts of Lola from Luffy and Nami during the night.
When Nami says she can’t betray her friend, Opera is going to torture her. Nami says she doesn’t want Luffy’s hands being torn off nor her being tortured.
Luffy and Opera are angry, “Don’t be selfish!”

Someone is approaching.

?? “Hey, is anybody here?”

Opera “You’re not allowed to visit this castle now.”

?? “Don’t be so harsh. Sorry, Opera. 5 thousand-gawara Seiken!!

Luffy “Ah!!”

Opera “Jin..be..”

Jinbe appears.

Jinbe “I’ve heard that you get captured. I’m relieved to see you’re OK. Now you wanna get out of this prison?”

Luffy and Nami “Yes!!”

End of Summary

One Piece 850 Spoiler Trivia: In keeping with the Vinsmoke Family’s naming convention, Rei (零) means “zero” in Japanese. This is a reference to Reiju’s position as the family’s first-born, but within a numbering system where “one” is assigned to the first-born son.

987 Responses to “One Piece 851 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第851話”

  1. Aku Soku Zan - January 4, 2017 at 4:23 pm #

    because it’s new year then no chapter. ridiculous

  2. Kouhei - January 4, 2017 at 5:00 pm #

    About the memo memo no mi, It’s a pretty op fruit if used correctly. The film roll makes it clear that she can’t create memories out of nowhere, only manipulate existing memories. The cutting ability is probably the most important feature of this df. But thinking like a film, she might be able to edit the sequencies, and even mix different roll memories.

    It’s possible that she deleted Lolla’s memory, everything that really happened right before Lolla left. That’s probably why Lolla imagines her mother on a different way.

    This DF brings tons of possibilities for this arc.

    • GomoGomoNo - January 4, 2017 at 11:09 pm #

      Yeah, I’m really interested in seeing what extent it can do this to. If she is quick and accurate enough with it she could potentially find the point in time that someone learned skills/techniques and totally handicap them from using their own abilities in battle. Hell she might be able to make someone forget basic human functions! …Though I guess that might be very difficult and time consuming.

      Perhaps that’s the purpose of Big Mom giving her Nitro and Rabian as homies guardians. She can fly around on Rabian to avoid being attacked until Nitro can sneak in and grab hold of the opponent. Then she can just either shoot them or get in close and warp their memory.

      I don’t know about Lola though, Pudding looked pretty young. That would be impressive if she was able to do that to Lola way back then, it took Luffy years to master his DF as a kid. Then again, Luffy was a wild child and she’s a princess who would have teachers so I guess it’s possible.

      • Cp3.14 - January 5, 2017 at 3:45 am #

        Yeah people keep saying it’s a weak fruit, but she could potentially completely remix and change a person complete personality and even better not only could she erase when someone learned certain skills and abilities as mentioned, it was also shown that she implanted someone else’s memory into Reijus mind meaning she could take other people’s skills and abilities and basically steal them for herself or for other people. As an example imagine if she took zoros, killers, vistas and Mihawks memories and implanted them into herself, she would blow away every swordsman ever as she would be able to take the unique strengths and abilities of each and sublament each ones weaknesses, actually it’s potentially one of the best DFs in OP and could have even been worthy of a yonko, to bad it’llost likely be wasted

      • Death - January 5, 2017 at 3:51 am #

        “Hell she might be able to make someone forget basic human functions! …Though I guess that might be very difficult and time consuming”

        What basic functions? Do you mean the biological one like breathe?

        • GomoGomoNo - January 5, 2017 at 4:25 am #

          No, maybe that was the wrong choice of words. I mean stuff you learn as a child, like walking and eating. Though I’m not sure how it works, I don’t know if just taking those few memories of learning would do the trick, or if every memory of you ever doing it would need to be removed as well. Need more info.

  3. me - January 4, 2017 at 5:02 pm #

    ..QUESTION..
    Akainu: 100
    Kizaru: 90
    What number do u give Marco the Phoenix.

    • Ganja - January 4, 2017 at 5:05 pm #

      98

    • antarus - January 4, 2017 at 5:06 pm #

      70 because of his fruit, but he has the attacks of a fodder

    • Persona - January 4, 2017 at 5:35 pm #

      75

    • asme - January 4, 2017 at 5:42 pm #

      86

    • GomoGomoNo - January 4, 2017 at 11:13 pm #

      82

    • Cp3.14 - January 5, 2017 at 3:50 am #

      First of pre time skip if kizaru was a 90 then Ali I would have been a 110 at least and post time skip I believe the gap is even further. I believe kizaru will be sanjis final opponent while akiunu will be luffys so EOS the difference between kizaru and Akiunu should be similar to the the EOS difference between Sanji and Luffy

  4. asme - January 4, 2017 at 5:34 pm #

    Tesoro Gold fruit is logia and Jozu Diamond fruit is paramecia. Oda logic ? maybe If diamond get the same treatment with gold fruit it will overpowered devil fruit. I think tesoro gold statue somehow will reflect another form of Devil fruit awakening in the future something similiar to magelan. SO we are already get 2 awakening form here. And about One Piece Gold film i think it’s the best one piece movie. Already watched it 2 times and gonna watch it again!

    • me - January 4, 2017 at 5:36 pm #

      where can i watch good quality?

      • asme - January 4, 2017 at 5:38 pm #

        https://ganool.is/one-piece-film-gold-2016-bluray-720p-850mb-ganool/

        You can download it also

        • Persona - January 4, 2017 at 10:55 pm #

          He must be based it on its shape/condition. Diamond is solid only, gold can be solid or liquid.
          Ur post makes me think about oil oil df..

        • GomoGomoNo - January 4, 2017 at 11:16 pm #

          That says “Subtitle: Indonesia, English”, does that mean I can choose?

          I’m asking because I don’t have data to waste, so I don’t want to download it unless I’m sure it’s got proper english subtitles.

        • Persona - January 5, 2017 at 1:09 am #

          Download the English subtitle on subscene.com

        • GomoGomoNo - January 5, 2017 at 1:30 am #

          ok, thanks.

    • Amashi - January 5, 2017 at 12:04 am #

      No Tesoro was clearly an awakened paramecia that’s why his fruit was conjured out of the objects around him. It was the same as Mr 3’s wax wax, except this was gold. If he were a logia he would liquefy his body into gold and turn big or shape his body as he fits, however he conjured gold around himself and wrapped it around his fist, like he when had that gold fist.

    • Enel - Thunder God - January 5, 2017 at 2:34 am #

      Tesoro is awakened gold devil fruit users … Jozu isn’t.

      If you did watch the movie carefully, you will noticed they stated Tesoro is awakened, if not mistaken it’s mentioned by his underling, the girl or maybe nami’s fren.

      • Enel - Thunder God - January 5, 2017 at 2:36 am #

        should be nami’s fren when they discuss the plan to steal the treasure from Tesoro.

  5. me - January 4, 2017 at 5:34 pm #

    ..QUESTION..
    Put old Whitebeard: 100
    Then place ur thoughts on the strongest OP characters and their numbers.
    Note: Its alright to think someone stronger then Old WB, his number woud be over 100 (example: X: 110)

    • me - January 4, 2017 at 5:34 pm #

      My answer:
      Old Whitebeard: 100

      Dragon: 100
      Shanks: 100
      Mihawk: 99
      Akainu: 98
      Aokiji: 98
      Sabo: 94
      Blackbeard: 94
      Marco: 92
      Kizaru: 91
      Kaido: 90

      NOTE:
      1. those with the same number (Dragon and Shanks; Akainu and Aokiji; Sabo and Blackbeard) are equal and would drag on for days just like Ace and Jinbe’s fight but eventually as lets say 10 days pass one will stand over the other (such as in Akainu and Aokiji’s fight)

      2. Those with only 1 ranking difference (Aokiji and Mihawk; Marco and Kizaru) the difference will be evident since the beggining of the fight but the weaker fighter can avoid attacks and inflict fatal damage even though he’s weaker

      3. Those with 2 ranking difference (Whitebeard and Akainu; Sabo and Kizaru; blackbeard and Marco) The stronger fighter can overwhelm the weaker one throughout the whole fight (just like what WB done to Akainu; or how BB overwhelmed Marco) meaning that the weaker fighter cant breath throughout the fight but he can still inflict fatal damage (as Akainu done to WB) and can still fight back, stopping the enemy’s serious and most powerful attacks.

      4. Later on:
      – Blackbeard will eat a third DF, train and master the three, then top this list with a massive 110.
      – Sabo will also train to reach 99.
      – Th SH pirates will invade this list, atleast 4 will have above 90 rankings. Luffy will reach BB and theyll both be unrivaled by no revolutionary leader, no fleet admiral, no shit: simply becoz a PK is someone exceptinal, someone on a different level then all those the past 24 years. None of the SHs will be weaker the high VA level

      • asme - January 4, 2017 at 5:49 pm #

        Gold Roger : 130
        Young WB : 120
        Shanks: 100
        Dragon: 99
        Kaido: 98
        Blackbeard (Gura2+Yami2): 94
        Akainu(Pre TS): 93
        Aokiji: 92
        Mihawk: 89
        Kizaru: 88
        Marco: 86
        Sabo: 81

        • asme - January 4, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

          Future Akainu – 125
          Future BB – 140

          Both will acquire immense power up and become luffy last villain to beat

    • nickname - January 4, 2017 at 10:06 pm #

      I’m not a fan of using exact numbers considering how little we have seen of most of these characters, way too many shots in the dark.

      I’d do it like this if old WB would represent 100:

      God Tier (> 9000)
      Captain Buggy-sama
      God Usopp

      Pirate King Tier (~105)
      WB (prime)
      Roger
      Blackbeard (end of series)

      Top Tier Characters (100-85)

      upper(100-95):
      WB (old)
      Garp (prime)
      Kaido
      Sakazuki
      Dragon
      Shanks
      Aokiji
      Sengoku
      Mihawk

      mid(95-90):
      Rayleigh(prime)
      Blackbeard(current)
      Kizaru
      Big Mom
      Shiki(prime)
      Fujitora
      Kong(?)
      Gourosei(?)

      lower(90-85):
      Magellan
      Shiliew
      Marco
      Beckman
      Doflamingo
      BM/Kaido’s strongest crew member
      Sabo
      Rayleigh(current)
      Luffy
      Zoro
      Weeble(?)

      • Amashi - January 4, 2017 at 11:59 pm #

        Well your pirate king tier is stupid, if you’re gonna put blackbeard (end of series) up there might as well put luffy end of series up there as well because Oda himself stated that by the end of the series in the final arc luffy would have already become pirateking.

        And also I disagree with half the low tiers, Luffy, Zoro, Beckman, Marco, Shillew and Sabo should be in mid tier. On the other hand, I really can’t say much since 98% of this is pure speculation and we haven’t seen much of most of these characters.

        • nickname - January 5, 2017 at 1:18 am #

          I figured Luffy being in that tier when he becomes PK would be a given, so I didn’t mention him lol

    • GomoGomoNo - January 4, 2017 at 11:24 pm #

      …If “Old” WB = 100, then “Old+Sick” WB from the war would be about 92, and Prime WB at 102. Prime Garp at 100, and Roger at 104…

      By those measurements I’d say the 10 strongest right now…

      Dragon = 101
      Kaido = 99
      Blackbeard = 98
      Sakazuki = 97
      Big Mom = 95.5
      Garp = 94.5
      Shanks = 94
      Mihawk = 93.5
      Kuzan = 93
      Kizaru = 92.5

    • Nidai Kitetsu - January 4, 2017 at 11:35 pm #

      if 100 is the max.

      Roger = 95
      WB (prime) = 95
      Garp (prime) = 95
      Sengoku (prime) = 94
      Sakazuki = 94
      Dragon = 93
      Rayleigh (prime) = 92
      Kuzan = 92
      Ryokugyu = 91
      Shanks = 91
      Mihawk = 90
      Borsalino = 90
      Garp (old) = 90
      Kaido = 89
      Sengoku (old)= 89
      Issho = 88
      Rayleigh (old)= 87
      WB (old) = 87
      Luffy = 86
      Big Mom = 85
      BB = 85
      Kong = 84
      Sabo = 83
      Zoro = 82
      Doflamingo = 78
      Shiliew = 77

      • - January 5, 2017 at 1:47 am #

        I would definitely argue Sakazuki being weaker than prime Garp. He should have surpassed everyone within the Marines so that he gives Luffy the ultimate battle.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - January 5, 2017 at 1:58 am #

          yeah I was thinking that too while writing it, I think it somewhat feels weird to consider Akainu or anyone to be as strong as Roger/WB/Garp since they’ve been built up to be the greatest of all time, but i’m probably romanticizing legends too much.

        • - January 5, 2017 at 2:02 am #

          Thats just lame. So Luffy wont surpass Roger either?

        • - January 5, 2017 at 2:05 am #

          Although i have always seen Garp as the strongest Marine ever as well after him being called a Marine hero who had nearly killed Roger multiple times and all, thats just not how the story should be.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - January 5, 2017 at 2:21 am #

          exactly, it’s the romance of legends, but you’re right Akainu should be stronger.

          Luffy (EOS) = 96
          Sakazuki = 95

      • Sakanade - January 13, 2017 at 5:57 pm #

        So Luffy > Zoro ?

  6. Luffy - January 4, 2017 at 9:53 pm #

    Gold in its pure form is liquid,that is why maybe Oda decides to make it a logia

  7. Nidai Kitetsu - January 4, 2017 at 10:42 pm #

    @me

    the reason that WB chose Ace is because he had the will of D. WB saw Ace’s drive when he was a rookie and recognised it as being like Roger’s.
    remember that WB knew about the will of D and the inheritance and the person that Roger was waiting for because Roger told him all that. WB just assumed it was Ace, whether that was before or after learning that Ace was Roger’s son is unknown but he could have seen his rival in Ace the same way that Shanks noted the similarity after Ace’s death.
    which is why he wanted to make Ace be king.

  8. GomoGomoNo - January 4, 2017 at 11:28 pm #

    …I still don’t understand that statement/goal of WB. If he really knows what being Pirate King means then he should know someone like Ace could never have become Pirate King. Luffy would never work under anyone and he constantly gathers people around him as allies. I think those are the most important qualities that the Pirate King needs.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - January 4, 2017 at 11:39 pm #

      but Ace had already shown that he had those qualities, he had CoC meaning he had the qualities of a leader and he attracted people to him just as Luffy did, which is why everyone in the WBPs loved him.

      • GomoGomoNo - January 4, 2017 at 11:55 pm #

        They loved him, but they followed WB.

        Just like everyone who follows Luffy, they do so because he is the one with the powerful spirit. Ace had CoC but he didn’t have the desire to be Pirate King and I think that definitely translates into CoC growth. Ace’s was weak and thus he didn’t gather a bunch of powerful people around him, WB did. A real pirate king potential not only has the strength to get there himself, but he gathers those he needs on his own, not via the strongest man in the world. Whitebeard was basically just trying to use cheat codes to make Ace Pirate King.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - January 5, 2017 at 12:08 am #

          in a way, yeah, but I think that WB was in the long game with Ace, he didn’t think that rushing would help, otherwise he would have just trained him and as you said, Ace wasn’t exactly out to become Pirate King himself but rather wanted to make WB the king.

          WB was grooming Ace slowly, preparing him. he became the 2nd division commander, which meant that he was in charge of that whole division. so he was slowly growing in order to take his mantle. WB probably wanted Ace to realise it himself.

          I see WB being like Rayleigh for Luffy, but in a much slower pace.

      • Doflamingo - January 5, 2017 at 2:10 am #

        Back to the topic of CoC and it being a requirement for being PK?

        • Persona - January 5, 2017 at 4:11 am #

          Coc as the name implies, is a sign of a great conqueror. Pirate king is the conqueror of the sea.. that logic.

        • GomoGomoNo - January 5, 2017 at 4:19 am #

          It’s not a topic, it’s a fact, Chinjao explained this to Luffy. Immediately after seeing it he asked Luffy what kind of king he wanted to be, and when Luffy said King of Pirates, Chinjao told him that the many pirates with CoC are who Luffy will be competing with for the title of Pirate King.

        • - January 5, 2017 at 8:57 am #

          Fuck whatever Chinjao said, lol Luffy wont be asked to display his CoC before getting the Pirate King title.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - January 5, 2017 at 9:24 am #

          requirement is the wrong word here, since it suggests as Mad interpreted it, that there’s some kind of blockade stopping those without it from getting past.

          it’s more that the people that are the most driven and most capable of achieving it are the ones with CoC, because CoC represents that kingly ambition, the do or die mentality.

          it reminds me of a question that I often get asked on Quora, “why does Elon Musk do what he does, why not stop or quit?” CoC in One Piece represents that same undying drive to be more than normal.

          so it’s not that CoC is required to become PK, it’s that CoC marks someone that could actually achieve it.

        • - January 5, 2017 at 12:18 pm #

          It actually reminds me of the idea “For one to become Pirate King, finding One Piece is a necessity first”.

          No, having CoC or finding OP are both irrelevant. Its just that both of them are more like natural consequences for the guy who gets the title. To conquer all the seas (which is what actually needs to be done in order to become Pk), you are gonna need a strong will, strong enough to match CoC. And conquering all the seas means that you’ll come across everything, thus finding One Piece on the road. Give Buggy the strongest crew. He’ll both find OP and defeat all CoC users, though not directly, and finally he’ll obtain the title of Pirate King. There’s not any kind of test for him to fail due to not possesing CoC.

  9. Amashi - January 5, 2017 at 12:23 am #

    Alright, so there was no announcement at the end of last weeks chapter stating if there would be a break this week or not. So is there a break this week? Cause where the spoilers at?

    • Nidai Kitetsu - January 5, 2017 at 12:44 am #

      last week was meant to be a break but we got this weeks chapter last week. there was no announcement for the past few chapters because the break was from Shonen not Oda.

      • Amashi - January 5, 2017 at 1:30 am #

        I see, that makes sense. Oh well its gonna be a hard week with no one piece.

  10. David - January 5, 2017 at 3:56 am #

    do you guys think their will be a time-skip between the end of WCI and Wano?

    • GomoGomoNo - January 5, 2017 at 4:15 am #

      No, there won’t be any more time skips. Oda has long since explained that One Piece is in two parts, officially title “Sea of Survival” and “The Final Sea”. Unless you mean just a few weeks of sailing on the sea, then yes, there will be plenty of that.

    • Leptor - January 5, 2017 at 4:39 am #

      It depends on what type of time skip you’re referring to. I doubt that it would be like the time skip between The Marineford War Arc and The Fishman Island Arc. Maybe a several month time skip where they recruit Allies and maybe train some.

  11. Leptor - January 5, 2017 at 4:09 am #

    I don’t like using numbers for rankings, because if Old Whitebeard is a 100 then Crocodile is like a 10, but that makes Crocodile seem so weak even though it just means that he’s no where near as powerful as Old Whitebeard. However, I consider Marco to be about half way between Pre Time Skip Akainu’s level of power and Kizaru’s level of power, if not slightly higher. Although the gap between Pre Time Skip Akainu and Kizaru is relatively small.

    As for the other rankings, I would rather go by difficulty level. For example, Roger and Prime Whitebeard defeat Old Whitebeard and Prime Garp with around high difficulty. Old Whitebeard and Prime Garp defeat Kaidou with around high difficulty. Kaidou defeats Old Garp with around high difficulty. Old Garp defeats Pre Time Skip Akainu with around high difficulty. Pre Time Skip Akainu defeats Current Luffy with around high difficulty. Stuff like that is how I like to rank.

  12. Leptor - January 5, 2017 at 4:12 am #

    Pretty good chapter for The Tower Of God.

    The characterization and character development is great in this chapter. Not just for Wagnan but for Miseng as well. I am very impressed with the characterization and character development in The Tower God in recent chapters. Usually they’re good but they have been amazing in those chapters.

    The only issue that I have with this chapter is that The God Of The Guardians went through with Baam’s insane request to land a planet destroying technique on him, although whether it can actually destroy a planet is debatable. Still, it’s an insane request, and The God Of The Guardians agreed to it. That’s a relatively small issue, though. Outside of that this chapter is pretty good.

    I give this chapter a 6.4/10 (rounding to 6/10).

  13. Cp3.14 - January 5, 2017 at 4:43 am #

    The memory DF would’ve been perfect and super creepy for CP0, imagine the kind of mass mind control they could do with it, can you say MKULTRA.