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One Piece 852 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第852話

2017 January 5

One Piece 852 Spoilers: The last Chapter end with Sanji shows an expressionless face listening to Pudding’s talk secretly in thunderstorm.……!!! So what happens next..? find out story on One Piece 852 Spoiler Discussion 「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第852話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoiler or prediction, please leave a comment below.

One Piece 852 Spoilers Summaries

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Chapter 852 The Germa’s Failure

Reiju is sleeping in an infirmary
She recovers quickly so she will be able to join the tea party the next day, apparently
Sanji comes in and restrains the guard
Reiju wakes up, but her memory’s fuzzy and she feels confused
Sanji explains her what really happened

Prisoner Library
Luffy & co. manage to escape by burning the book
As soon as they’re out of the cage, Luffy can’t move because of his empty stomach
Even so, he runs upstairs to help Sanji

Infirmary
Reiju believes Sanji’s words
Reiju had been investigating Pudding herself, as she thought she seemed too much of a good person
Sanji’s pretty desperate, and Reiju tells him that “I think the Germa should crumble like this”
Reiju proposes to act as if they knew nothing.
Sanji’s against it, and Reiju starts talking about the circumstances around Sanji’s birth.

Reiju could not forget a certain memory
When their Father had said he would turn the soon to be born children in emotionless machines, the mother was fiercely against it

The surgery was done against her will, but the mother drank a powerful medicine that would influence their bloodline’s genes, in order to stop the father’s wild ambition.

There was no effect on the 3 older children, but Sanji alone was able to grow up as human.

Because of that medicine, the mother kept getting weaker and weaker, but she had no regrets

Father blamed Sanji for the whole thing, and started treating him badly
Reiju: “There’s no way you are a failure”
Reiju: “The child born with the “emotions” that mother protected with her own life”
Reiju: “That’s you…Sanji”
Reiju: “That’s why you are kinder than anyone else!!!”

Reiju tells Sanji to abandon the Germa and escape.

Reiju: “(Big Mom?) is not interested in your savior’s life, I think.
Reiju: “Father and the brothers who hold the sea restaurant hostage will be killed tomorrow.”
Reiju: “It’s a just retribution! We’re a band of assassins!!”」
Sanji : “I too have nothing but resentment towards them…but why do you have to die…!?”
Reiju : “There is still “emotion” within me, but…I am an “accomplice”, built unable to refuse Father’s orders.”
Reiju: “My hands are stained…I deserve to die.”
Reiju: “I forgot to say something…that bracelet won’t explode or anything. I switched it (with a dud).”
Reiju: “Do you have any other reasons not to leave this island!?”
Reiju: “Get a hold of yourself, Sanji!! Think hard about what’s important for you!!
Reiju: “You won’t be able to see that great bunch of people anymore!!!”

Break after Chapter 852

One Piece 852 Spoiler Trivia Sanji’s nickname “Mr. Prince” which he used in Alabasta, actually foreshadowed his own royal heritage and Sanji always imagining himself as a dashing prince helped this.

1,601 Responses to “One Piece 852 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第852話”

  1. Xcalibur100 - January 17, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

    Maybe Vegapunk has a hero name SORA or named a robot or artificial human SORA in memory of Sanjis mother to fight Judge and his sons for their evil deeds (just like how Sanjis mom indirectly fought Vegapunk causing her death) and maybe thats how comics based on them came up…

    SORA could have also maybe been an abbreviation for Scientist Of Revolutionary Army (Just saying).

    • Xcalibur100 - January 17, 2017 at 3:06 pm #

      indirectly fought Judge*

      • GomoGomoNo - January 17, 2017 at 6:14 pm #

        I think the stories are supposed to be based on actual marines hero’s having fought against the old School Germa, the one’s who were actually a real threatening force back in the day.

        But I like the idea of Vegapunk having created an android based on some character named Sora. Or if he named his daughter after them, which is Sanji’s mother, and built an android to accompany her as she fought the modern day Germa. Before she fell in love with Judge or whatever. I dunno, there’s lots of possibilities.

  2. LogicoftheVI - January 17, 2017 at 3:06 pm #

    What are your favorite character Nicknames in One Piece?

    Here are a few of mine:
    Luffy calling him “Cabbage” instead of Cavendish
    Luffy calling Trafalgar Law “Tra-Guy”
    Sanji calling Zoro “Marimo”

    • Kouhei - January 17, 2017 at 3:13 pm #

      Rooster-kun

    • kingkaidou - January 17, 2017 at 3:20 pm #

      Doffy!!!

    • Sakanade - January 17, 2017 at 3:56 pm #

      Hammock.

    • - January 17, 2017 at 4:15 pm #

      Βropper

    • Aku Soku Zan - January 17, 2017 at 4:57 pm #

      ero – kappa = sanji

    • antarus - January 17, 2017 at 5:01 pm #

      the evil king

      dark king

    • Death - January 17, 2017 at 5:02 pm #

      Bon-chan.

    • Pirate King - January 17, 2017 at 5:28 pm #

      Bonekichi – brook. By momonosuke

    • GomoGomoNo - January 17, 2017 at 6:04 pm #

      Tanjiahdo Lufulamingo.

      • Kouhei - January 17, 2017 at 6:46 pm #

        Lol I remember this! Juraquille too

      • D. Luffy - January 17, 2017 at 9:45 pm #

        Who said that?

        • GomoGomoNo - January 17, 2017 at 11:12 pm #

          …it’s a joke, this was an old translation full of fail.

        • D. Luffy - January 18, 2017 at 9:50 am #

          Lol I’m guessing manga panda

    • zehahaha - January 18, 2017 at 2:39 am #

      condoriano – inspector shepherd

    • Sane - January 18, 2017 at 6:33 am #

      Tra-guy. Rip Trafalgar.

    • Enel - Thunder God - January 19, 2017 at 5:54 am #

      han-go-ku

  3. Bob - January 17, 2017 at 4:58 pm #

    @logic what do you mean how is he irredeemable? the guy literally kidnapped a bunch of kids, put them on highly addictive drugs for an experiment and knew they were going to die after that, not to mention used his own subordinates and everyone else as experiments for his poison gas to kill everyone. we got a reminder on zou that caesar was still most definitely an antagonist when it was revealed they used his weapon to wipe out the minks and he had no remorse for it, then when sanji was willing to hand him over to big mom without hesitation.

    • LogicoftheVI - January 17, 2017 at 5:24 pm #

      I see so many people saying that Monet is redeemable when she perpetrated the same crime so why is it cool for Monet but not Caesar? Sure Caesar created the drub but it was actually Monet who gave the kids the “Candy” not Caesar so why does he get blamed for what Monet did?

      Caesar is a scientist first, he is focus on results. Most scientist work in a reasonably grey area. Caesar is no different. He does it all for the greater good. He isn’t killing kids because he likes it, they are a means to an end for Caesar. Why did he chose kids because the gigantification did work on Adults. Let’s not leave out the things that are inconvenient to the argument.

      In Zou he was happy to see that his Kuro-Gas worked. He wasn’t maliciously picking on the Minks. Also on Zou we get the first glimpse into the possible redemption of Caesar Clown. Irredeemable? Nah I doubt that, but in now way does that mean I think he is a good guy. I think Oda has given himself some room to work with this character and i believe we will have plenty of time to discuss whether Oda redeems him or not.

      • Pirate King - January 17, 2017 at 5:32 pm #

        Both r irredeemable. Ceasar just want to create weapons, he’s not a grey area scientist, he’s a black dark evil scientist. Don’t forget that he still wanna let those minks suffer his poison gas n don’t wanna safe them, he only save safe the minks because he was threatened.
        Monet is a spy, she’s basically a fake on everything. She only loyal to dd n dd alone. She’s also merciless n as u said, she doesn’t care even if it’s children.

      • Bob - January 17, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

        I don’t know who says Monet is redeemable, but I’m not one of them, and Monet is dead anyway. Both are evil characters, why does Caesar get blamed? …Seriously? It was his plan.

        Caesar showed no remorse or anything of the sort and he was against saving the minks as well, he was happy that his weapon was working and that’s all he felt. There’s no redemption for him

      • ~7OPofD.w0rld - January 17, 2017 at 7:47 pm #

        Well I take Monets side mostly cause of fanboism, though compared to CC she is slightly better, she was just stupidly loyal to DD because he most likely helped her and Sugar in some way, and she wasn’t shown laughing stupidly and feeling proud when doing all those bad things…I know it’s not much of a difference, but she’s still better than CC, and more redeemable IMO, CC as a really good person would look like a bad joke to me, mostly cause of those inner conversations he’s having…

      • Nidai Kitetsu - January 18, 2017 at 12:12 am #

        Caesar was the one that stated that they needed to experiment on children, it was revealed that the giantification experiments weren’t yielding results and the best way forward was to try it on children, but Vegapunk was against it, Caesar was not. so the only reason that Vergo, Doflamingo and Monet were stealing and feeding Caesar’s drugs to the kids was because it was Caesar’s request.

        Caesar was the one that destroyed Punk hazard in the first place, he created an experiment, the original Shinokuni and detonated it, causing the island to be evacuated 4 years ago, which he was arrested for.

        he came back and revived his experiment in order to improve on it and make it more dangerous. also creating other weapons for the black market.

        Caesar took pride in what he was doing.

        Monet on the other hand wasn’t doing it because she enjoyed it but rather because she was indebted to Doflamingo for saving her and her sister. it was almost like reverse Stockholm syndrome where she was so indebted to her saviour that she did anything he wanted.

        so yes at times scientists are cold hearted towards their subjects because they’ve deemed their research more valuable than a few human lives but what Caesar is doing goes way beyond that. what you’re saying can be applied to the experiments that were originally being done on PH, but not the ones that Caesar was doing.

    • Sakanade - January 17, 2017 at 5:57 pm #

      The continued presence of Ceasar in the plot has nothing to do with whether he is good or bad. Oda might glue him to the SH for useful scientific knowledge plus his ability to influence gasses which probed useful at Zou. He is basically there against his will, and i think he will be there until the meeting the Vegapunk, and he will be kicked somewhere before reaching Raftel.

  4. antarus - January 17, 2017 at 5:29 pm #

    853 chapter prediction:

    Luffy fights his way in the second floor. Jimbei and nami go after him.

    Many from the enraged army show up to capture luffy. they overcome him and jimbei nami.

    Chopper shows up and pulls luffy and jimbei and nami in the mirror world. they explain they can control it now.

    They meet sanji in the mirror. they talk, sanji gives luffy the food( about fkin time, he carried that bascket around for a while)

    Sanji tells luffy he can leave, but his family will get killed. but he cares mostly about reiju.

    luffy says he likes her too, since she saved his life. we can’t leave her here.

    They go and find Pedro and Brook. they fiind Pedro.

    Brook is not in the tresure room anymore when they get there.

    Brook is in BM’s bed. he looks KO. Big mom smokes cigar.

    Luffy asks jimbei about pekoms, but he tells him sun pirates found him almost dead in the water and saved him.

    Capone is in the castle smiling, he reveals his plan. After bm and vinsmoke kill eachother, he will stab BM with his seastone spear, and will kill her because she is DF user. Then he will become Big Dad, the new leader of the family.

    • antarus - January 17, 2017 at 5:32 pm #

      kinda like how superman killed doomsday with that spear.

    • GomoGomoNo - January 17, 2017 at 6:07 pm #

      Come on, are you kidding me? It has to be Big Daddy.

  5. Big dick johnson - January 17, 2017 at 6:33 pm #

    So what levels are the infirmary, the library and the place where pedro was fighting?

    • antarus - January 17, 2017 at 6:34 pm #

      library first floor, infirmary 3rd or second, Pedro seond or third

    • GomoGomoNo - January 17, 2017 at 11:10 pm #

      According to the wiki…

      First Floor

      – The Library
      — The Prisoner Library

      Second Floor

      – Pudding’s Room
      – The Guest Rooms

      Third Floor

      – The Courtyard

      Fourth Floor

      – Queen’s Chamber
      – The Room of Treasure
      – The Alcohol Storehouse
      – A Women’s Bathroom
      – An Medical Office

      …I dunno know where they got most of this, I didn’t even noticed any level’s being mentioned until this past chapter when it was pointed out as Smoothie was talking.

      • iMacTim - January 18, 2017 at 2:35 pm #

        When the mirrors are talking to chopper I think

  6. antarus - January 17, 2017 at 6:35 pm #

    viz made it clear that thetre is none hurt at 4th level infirmary, there is just the medical office, and told him to be carefull not to fall asleep, not in general

    • Big dick johnson - January 17, 2017 at 6:52 pm #

      What page was that

      • antarus - January 17, 2017 at 7:09 pm #

        after doctor leaves from reiju’s room, before sanji shows up

    • GomoGomoNo - January 17, 2017 at 11:06 pm #

      …hmm, that makes sense I guess. I was wondering why have more than one infirmary.

  7. antarus - January 17, 2017 at 8:27 pm #

    short theory about how op will go from now to the end.

    bm falls now, by tankman and CC’s experiment that turns luffy giant tankman then they meet weevil and marco, but bb pirates take marco and jozu fruits. luffy loses to bb.

    wano arc, luffy gets awakening training from scoober gaban, kaidou get gangba**** by kidd, law, luffy, apoo, Hawkins, drake.

    drake, Hawkins, apoo weaken kaidou, but they go KO defeated.

    kidd, luffy, law remain, and beat him.

    reverie, warlords no more, alabasta will get destroyd by wg to fiind acient weapon. mihawk joins shanks as ally.

    luffy and co meet shanks, they fight, luffy gets final poneglyph info from him

    bb pirates show up kill shanks and mihawk, take pongelyph with them. bb can read poneglyphs.

    elbaf they get new allies, hajrudin becomes king. luffy gets new and final nakama from elbaf

    luffy goes to vegapunk, he is sanji’s grandpa. luffy fights kuma, Who is now much stronger then before. zoro fights sentomaru, sanji fights vegapunk. after that dragon meets luffy, he ruined his plan to take down WG with vegapunk’s pacifistas army.

    dragon trains luffy in CoC. now luffy becomes thunder monkey, he controls thunders, like enel. black thunders CoC POWER.

    luffy reaches final island, that tells about raftel. it’s not enough to have 4 poneglyphs location, raftel has a forcefield that makes itr invisible, the final island has a poneglyph that tells how to get past the forcefield.

    Luffy gets to raftel. but surprise, blackbeard pirates also got there. BB tells luffy he killed shanks. he has 3 fruits, burgess has marco’s fruit, shilliew has jozu’s fruit and he killed mihawk, because mihawk can’t cut diamond.

    11vs11, 1vs1 battles between SHs and bb pirates.

    luffy fights bb and manages to beat him with his CoC thunder power and df awakening combo.

    sanji fights burgess Phoenix. there is only one way to beat the Phoenix fruit. once it’s out of stamina it can’t heal anymore. burgess runs out of stamina and sanji wins.

    zoro vs shilliew. zoro uses breath oif all things to uses his ultimate dragon attack to cut diamond and win.

    usopp and van auger. usopp uses his superior COO to win.

    nami vs girl from impel down.

    franky vs corrupt king, robin vs new guy in bb pirates, jimbei vs drunken style fishman, san juan wolf vs new nakama, chopper vs doc q and so on.

    raftel has many treasures, and tells true story. 900 years ago there was a war. Ds vs CDs, 100 years long war.

    the final war, SHs and allies vs WG.

    sabo, dragon, koala, ivankov, new guy vs 5 gorosei

    luffy vs akainu

    kizaru vs sanji

    zoro vs fujitora

    law vs greenbull

    the world is free, wg is down, there are 5 new gorosei, dragon, vivi, shiranoshi, sabo, Robin

    sanji is new king of germa and has the biggest floating restaurant, germa kingdom

    luffy is PK and gets captured by coby and executed wit hthe same words roger said.

    coby is admiral, smoker is admiral, aokiji is fleet admiral, garp is commander in chief of marines

    zoro is WSS and new shogun of wano. he married reiju and had child

    Nami married sanji, they had a baby.

    Before luffy gets captured he gives his hat to shank’s and makimo’s child. he wants to become new pirate king, he gets nakamas too, sanji and nami’s son, zoro and reiju’s son, that have both curly eyebrows facing the other way, usopp’s son and momonosuke.

    they want to become new pirate king’s crew.

    ta da…. for people now wanting to wait 10 years for story to finish, here hte short version

    • GomoGomoNo - January 17, 2017 at 11:05 pm #

      …OK, interesting view points there.

      …just one thing though …the new WG is lead by Luffy’s father, brother, beloved crew mate, and 2 princesses who adore him and basically would have become crew mates too. While the Marines are lead by his grandfather and Admirals who are all either friends or allies…

      …and yet somehow all of these people decided to kill Luffy? …?

      • antarus - January 18, 2017 at 8:50 am #

        luffy lost a lot of his life span, like with gears, bm, and he won’t have much to live anyway, so he proposes to get executed so he can inspire new generations

        • antarus - January 18, 2017 at 8:50 am #

          also luffy has a kid with Boa

        • antarus - January 18, 2017 at 9:02 am #

          everyine including marines like coby and smoker will cry at that moment

        • Bob - January 18, 2017 at 5:53 pm #

          I don’t think big mom has taken any of luffy’s life span at the moment

    • kingkaidou - January 18, 2017 at 9:59 am #

      lol, Zorro will bang Sanji´s sister? xD

      • antarus - January 18, 2017 at 10:10 am #

        marimo green hair witht curly eyebrows

    • Zoroman - January 18, 2017 at 11:39 am #

      no joke, epic prediction. Hope it all comes true….

      Except 1 thing.
      Zoro x Tashigi

      Take it from Zoroman. It’s bound to happen

      • kingkaidou - January 18, 2017 at 11:50 am #

        no he will humilate sanji by doing his sister and show the footage to the crew afterwards >_>

    • Billy - January 18, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

      I highly appreciate your creativity.

      LMFAO for:

      1 – Shiroashi for new Gorosei.

      2 – Zoro humping Reiju, this is fucking hilarious.

    • ~7OPofD.w0rld - January 18, 2017 at 1:42 pm #

      I just thought that Sanjis mom could have been Vegapunks sister, but Vegapunk as Sanjis grandpa would also be interesting
      Fun read btw

  8. - January 18, 2017 at 1:13 am #

    Marimo was declared a National Treasure in Japan back in 1921.

    If Sanji’s early title of Mr Prince foreshadowed his royal origins then i wonder if Marimo also foreshadows that Zoro will have some kind of relevance with a land’s (Wano?) National Treasure in the future. Although i feel like his Shushui has already been called as such by Kinemon but im not sure.

    • Pirate King - January 18, 2017 at 2:32 am #

      The legendary moss hair clan of wano. Kin n kan didn’t mention it because they thought zoro’s hair was dyed.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - January 18, 2017 at 2:49 am #

      well Shusui was a national treasure because it belonged to Ryuma, so Zoro’s royal status would suggest that he too is related to Ryuma, conveniently matching my theory.

      • - January 18, 2017 at 2:52 am #

        Matching your theory, which is?

        • Nidai Kitetsu - January 18, 2017 at 3:06 am #

          that Zoro is a descendant of Ryuma and inherited his will which includes the spirit element that gives Zoro the Kyutoryu ability.

        • Pirate King - January 18, 2017 at 3:13 am #

          The spirit called ashura.. the 3 head 6 arms deity..

  9. Bwahahaha - January 18, 2017 at 1:43 am #

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MsVjy6ZO0Ik

    Kingdom

  10. Leptor - January 18, 2017 at 4:08 am #

    2 out of my top 3 favorite One Piece Arcs so far are from Pre Time Skip, but Dressrosa is my 2nd favorite Arc so far and Zou Island is also one of the better Arcs in the series. There are still The Reverie, Wano Country, Elbaf Island, and the final war as well.

    So technically Pre Time Skip is winning but I think that the writing has been just as good Post Time Skip for the most part and better in some aspects.

    • Kouhei - January 18, 2017 at 11:17 am #

      True. Zou arc is one of the best transition arcs. Like when Aokiji fked up the mugiwaras on LRLL. Arcs like FI and PH are awful, unnecessarily long and lacking of carismatic antagonists. Dressora is a great arc, but it’s also unnecessarily long and besides DD, Ishoo, Barto and Senior Pink, all other antagonists and allies lack on carisma.

      So far, WCI is good. If wasn’t for the seducing woods, it would be better than Zou.

      • ~7OPofD.w0rld - January 18, 2017 at 4:55 pm #

        I really liked PH exept maybe CC, I enjoyed watching that arc especially with the return of Law as a Warlord, Smoker and Tashigi, Kinemons introduction, the Dragon, the body swapping, plus the fights, especially Law vs Smoker, Smoker vs Vergo, Sanjis small encounter with Vergo, Law one shooting Tank Vergo, I really enjoyed it

  11. himanshu - January 18, 2017 at 7:15 am #

    when is the spoiler coming?

    • Tomodachi - January 18, 2017 at 7:59 am #

      5 minutes.

      • golfwang - January 18, 2017 at 9:20 am #

        Sir, you are funny. The quality of your amusingness is over 9000.

        • Tomodachi - January 18, 2017 at 9:26 am #

          k

        • Pirate King - January 18, 2017 at 9:48 am #

          Meh

    • himanshu - January 18, 2017 at 9:45 am #

      don’t reply if you don’t know

      • Tomodachi - January 18, 2017 at 4:01 pm #

        t. Speedreader-kun

    • Glitch - January 18, 2017 at 10:08 am #

      Break this week, dude… Didn’t you read the last chapter? There’s always a note on the last page.

    • warriors_not_winning_in_2016 - January 18, 2017 at 8:42 pm #

      no ch this week
      spoilers come out next tuesday night 11pm1-12am

  12. - January 18, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

    Yo, how have things been here lately? Looks to me like the trolls are gone? Good news for this site.

    • Pirate King - January 18, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

      Lmao, u just had to post the word “troll”.. look who showed up down there..

    • Sane - January 18, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

      Lol the irony as soon as you post “looks to me like the trolls are gone” the biggest troll posts immidietaly after “wtf”. It’s reims, he never stops.

      • Sane - January 18, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

        oh, pirate king pointed it out lol.

    • Trollmaster - January 18, 2017 at 2:27 pm #

      Wtf you bruh. Who’s gone?

    • Trollmaster - January 18, 2017 at 2:27 pm #

      Kiss my ass you fool.

  13. wtf - January 18, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

    ahoy mates!
    how’s life?

  14. Kouhei - January 18, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

    Weevil is:

    1 – WB’s legit son
    2 – A random trying to get WB’s fame
    3 – An experiment using WB’s DNA

    What you guys think?

    • - January 18, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

      4 – A dumb guy who was tricked by his mother (or whatever she is to him) so that she uses his power to achieve her own goals.

    • antarus - January 18, 2017 at 4:22 pm #

      i think the truth is in the middle.

      not proper son, but neither compelte fake. kizaru said he has the strngth of wb in his Young days.

      Theory:

      weevil’s mother, miss buckin was a DF power. it’s similar to moria’s fruit in a way.

      she take the dead body of WB and scans it. she has something like 3d print no mi.

      Scanning dead body of WB, she is able to make a clone of him. a clone that has same strength.

      her gag is that the clones don’t looks that much like their original user, but they get the same power.

      • me - January 18, 2017 at 4:29 pm #

        I think he was simply modified by his supposed mother.
        The big stitch marks all around his neck are very clear.
        And Kizaru said it was like looking at young WB all over again, I think he’s between low and mid admiral lvl but definitely not one of the strongest or as powerful as young whitebeard. All this is speculation of course

      • antarus - January 18, 2017 at 4:43 pm #

        or maybe a fruit that transfers strength to another person.

    • Kouhei - January 18, 2017 at 4:40 pm #

      On SBS 83 a fan said to Oda that there’s no way for Weevil to be WB’s son, and Oda has replied laughing that that’s exactly what he wanted people to think.

      • me - January 18, 2017 at 4:53 pm #

        Then Oda might also show us something that makes a lot of people think he is truly WBs son till he ultimately confirms the obvious which is that he’s not WBs son.
        That’s exactly Oda

    • Doflamingo - January 18, 2017 at 6:01 pm #

      https://12dimension.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/one_piece_whitebeard_introduction.jpg

      Look at the honeys surrounding whitebeard in his intro. Who in their right mind would bang weevil’s mom when he’s surrounded by them?? Simplest argument.

  15. me - January 18, 2017 at 2:12 pm #

    http://www.mangaspoiler.com/2017/01/05/one-piece-852-spoiler%e3%80%8c%e3%83%af%e3%83%b3%e3%83%94%e3%83%bc%e3%82%b9-%e3%83%8d%e3%82%bf%e3%83%90%e3%83%ac%e3%80%8d-%e7%ac%ac852%e8%a9%b1-2/comment-page-17/#comment-921638
    @Nidai
    Wtf???? lol I’m not bothered replying but y don’t u just explain what shoved the thought that all the yonko have been to raftel in that head of urs???

    • Pirate King - January 18, 2017 at 3:08 pm #

      ??? The yonkou knew about red poneglyph.
      There r 2 ways to know about red poneglyph: 1. Via ppl who knew about it like minks, roger’s crew. 2. By reaching raftel (like what inu explained). Thus highly likely the yonkou reached the last island and found out that they need 4 red poneglyphs to reach one piece.

      • Pirate King - January 18, 2017 at 3:08 pm #

        Scratch raftel, I mean last island that log pose pointed.

      • GomoGomoNo - January 18, 2017 at 3:39 pm #

        And it’s not just the Yonko, I’m sure numerous people have made it to that island. It’s not like it’s hidden, it’s just at the end. This is actually the reason it’s been dabated so long as to why no one found Raftel, before Oda just explained the truth on Zou.

        • Pirate King - January 18, 2017 at 3:58 pm #

          I won’t be shocked if the last red poneglyph is in the possession of the wg

        • me - January 18, 2017 at 4:05 pm #

          same

      • me - January 18, 2017 at 4:04 pm #

        Ah lol ok I admit my mistake.
        Idk why but back when I read the Zou arc I didn’t pay attention at all and just wanted to get it over with (altho now that I reread it its very interesting).
        But I wonder:
        http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/105/8
        Crocus says the last island is Raftel and that the only one to have reached it is Gol D. Roger.
        http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/820/10
        And here the Duke says that Crocus wasn’t lying.

        That’s what had me lost but now that ive reread everything:
        it can be interpreted that the final island leads to Raftel (which is true) and only Roger has reached Raftel.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - January 18, 2017 at 11:44 pm #

      lmao we need to come up with a code name for that island, this isn’t the first time someone has mistaken my comment to mean Raftel.

  16. Xcalibur100 - January 18, 2017 at 5:08 pm #

    How does anyone know what the Road Ponyglyphs or any other ponyglyph mean or whats written on it other than Rogers crew, the Kozuki clan and the Oharans. How do you think the Yonko or anyone else know whats written or meant on the ponyglyphs or how do they even know thats the road ponyglyph and what it does??

    BM did say she didnt know whats on them when Jimbei brought them to her.

    How do you think the pirates who reached the last island that the log points to know what to do next?? Or are they aimlessly roaming the New World/Paradise.??

    • me - January 18, 2017 at 5:14 pm #

      The last island explains what to do which is: find the poneglyphs, there are 4 road poneglyphs, read them to find 4 locations, the center of these 4 is raftel.
      So all those who reached the final island know that much. Big Mum and Kaido each found one road and numerous poneglyphs. The next step they can do is get their hands on more road poneglyphs and catch Nico Robin which is why Neko and Duke warned Robin to be careful to which she replied that the SHs are her reliable crew.
      So no the yonkos and pirates who have reached the last point aren’t roaming aimlessly but rather all have very important plans that can all take them to Raftel. Altho of course with Robin under Luffy, he’ll never allow harm to reach her

      • Xcalibur100 - January 18, 2017 at 5:19 pm #

        What if whatever direction/message that expalins what to do after reaching the last island happens to be on a ponyglyph (Coz thats usually the case.. All the important things realated to the Void Century are written on Ponyglyphs)…

    • Xcalibur100 - January 18, 2017 at 5:15 pm #

      If they just took the Red Ponyglyph with them just because its different coz of its colour, I would have to say that they are either very stupid or really clever.

      Stupid coz just like Inuarashi said it would be foolish to drag a ponyglyph with you when you can actually paste it and

      Clever coz thay might have thought they could catch whoever is looking for it and ask them about it..

      • Xcalibur100 - January 18, 2017 at 5:21 pm #

        Scratch paste i meant copy

  17. antarus - January 18, 2017 at 5:31 pm #

    POssible wedding scenario

    big mom is looking forward to the cake….if the fishman bomb make it explode, she could go in her rampage like when jimbei had to bring her that candy.

    cake explodes from the bomb, bi mom going mad wrecking everything, vinsmokes get allerted, pudding and co try to shoot vinsmokes, they fight back

  18. Doflamingo - January 18, 2017 at 6:05 pm #

    Reading SBS 83 I found this:

    “Odacchi!! In the sbs from volume 82 you told us how to escape from Akainu, bears, ghosts and the like. But when I try to do this before my angered mother I’m just beaten up… Is my mother stronger than Akainu? P.N. Star Fairy

    O: You better watch out! you’re being too brash! A mother is the strongest living being in the world, even stronger than Kaidou!! Don’t you dare do it again! But, you know, your mother loves you more than anyone else.”

    Even as a joke this seems to imply kaido is somehow stronger than others. How much value is to be given to this?

    • antarus - January 18, 2017 at 6:09 pm #

      well, he is world’s strongest creature, maybe human are included in the ” creature”

    • Blink Blink No Mi - January 18, 2017 at 7:44 pm #

      Foreshadowing that BM > Kaido.

      …Not.

    • Bob - January 18, 2017 at 8:41 pm #

      it is stating that kaido is stronger than any other character in the series, as yet another example of emperor > admiral, though the people who think it’s saying big mom is stronger than kaido are reading too much into a joke (I know blink is joking but there are actually some people on here who thought that)

  19. Blink Blink No Mi - January 18, 2017 at 7:43 pm #

    Anyone one here watches Series of Unfortunate Events or Peaky Blinders?

    They are amazing.

    • Pirate King - January 18, 2017 at 11:53 pm #

      Only watched the movie n played the game. An entertaining experiences indeed.

  20. Ganja - January 19, 2017 at 12:57 am #

    Kaidou is the strongest in one piece, this is why it will take all of them to fight him. Kaidou is One piece Madara or Broly just like that.

    • Billy - January 19, 2017 at 2:14 am #

      Hashirama > Madara + Kyuubi.

  21. Nidai Kitetsu - January 19, 2017 at 12:59 am #

    Theory: National Treasure

    http://nidaikitetsu.club/index.php/2017/01/19/national-treasure/

    • - January 19, 2017 at 1:53 am #

      Bonney being an ancient weapon is an awesome idea but her being over 800 years old and yet being declared a Supernova, basically a rookie, just doesnt fit.

      Also, she was wandering around in Shabaody. If she had something to do with the Celestials she wouldnt move so freely, they should know her face and hence be able to recognise her.

      • Nidai Kitetsu - January 19, 2017 at 5:29 am #

        she escaped from the WG, we already know that to be a fact so her connection with the CDs is confirmed and Akainu’s concern over her escape means that she’s significant, so either way she was incredibly important to the WG.

        so while wondering why the WG wasn’t after her in Saboady is a legitimate concern it isn’t a counter to the theory. also the same concern could be made about Robin. Aokiji intercepted the SHs based on a report he had received from the marines, meaning that the marines knew that Robin was with the SHs and they knew exactly where they would be and yet did nothing about it, despite her being the last surviving member of Ohara. it doesn’t make any sense but it is what it is.

        remember that age doesn’t influence ones status as a rookie, only the duration of ones career does, the Supernova were the 11 pirates to reach Saboady that year with bounties of 100m+

    • - - January 19, 2017 at 2:14 am #

      Another idiotic theory by Nidal Gaytetsu

  22. me - January 19, 2017 at 3:31 am #

    ..MATCHUPS..
    Soul King Brook VS Pedro of the Trees
    Fire Fist Ace VS Magellan
    Surgeon of Death Law VS Pirate Empress Boa Hancock
    Thousand Arms Cracker VS Garuda Judge Vinsmoke
    Snow Women Monet VS Master Caesar Clown

    • Bob - January 19, 2017 at 3:59 am #

      well, we know caesar is stronger than monet at least

  23. Leptor - January 19, 2017 at 3:33 am #

    @ Kouhei.

    I agree with some of your points but I like The Fishman Island Arc overall. There are some aspects of it that I don’t like but overall I think that it’s a good Arc. I can agree that it was relatively underwhelming, though, considering that they had been hyping up Fishman Island for hundreds of chapters.

    The first half of Punk Hazard is sort of lame IMO, but the second half I think is great.

    I actually respectfully disagree about most of The Donquixote Pirates lacking charisma. I actually find that to be one of their strongest points. Maybe outside of Machvise and to a lesser extent a couple of the other Executives. But overall I think that at least most of them are very colorful and unique characters.

    I agree about The Seducing Woods. It was sort of fun but it’s my least favorite part of the Arc so far.