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One Piece 858 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第858話

2017 March 8

One Piece 858 Spoilers: The last Chapter end with Sanji explains that he wants to save those bastards that he doesn’t think of as family..……!!! So what happens next..? find out story on One Piece 857 Spoiler Discussion 「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第857話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoiler or prediction, please leave a comment below.

One Piece 858 Spoilers Summaries

Sources : Shirataba
Trans: Redon

ONEPIECE Chapter. 858 Meeting

Pekoms is being treated by the Sun Pirates in the Eastern Bay.
He is worrying whether Jinbe told BM about what Bege is planning.
Aladine and Praline have been advising him to take it easy, but Pekoms felt suspicious about a figure that came into the bay in the middle of the night carrying cargo and attempted to go to BM but was stopped by the Sun Pirates.

Chopper meets with Luffy and Sanji at Bege’s hideout and takes a bath at Monster Gun Vito’s request. Vito recounts how his boss does not want to meet with dirty folks.

Switches to a Nami and Carrot bathing scene.
Nami discusses with Lola’s twin about her meeting Lola.
Her twin recounts about the day where BM became hated by the world’s giants, where Lola was proposed to by Elbaf’s prince Loki. With the bad blood with the giants being wiped away and gaining the army of the famous Elbaf, the strongest kingdom in the world, Big Mom cried tears of joy.

However, Lola ran away, and BM gave up trying to befriend the giants and began research into giantification. Since they are like peas in a pod, she thought that she would suffer badly as well and would be killed one day.

3 hours and 30 minutes till the tea ceremony.
After Luffy and the others finish their bathing, they begin their meeting and discussion with Bege, but for some reason Ceaser appears at the meeting.
Bege has gotten his hands on Ceasar’s heart and helped him run away, making him one of his subordinates.

The meeting becomes hectic, but everyone shouts “NO!” to the question of whether they like Jinbe’s boss BM. Jinbe declares that everyone here is an ally, and that they are here to seek a temporary alliance.

Luffy: “What’s the plan!?”
Bege: “We’ll come up with a flawless one.”
Ceasar: “Let’s do this quickly! It ends here!”

End

One Piece 858 Spoiler Trivia: Capone Bege is named after the real life 1920’s gangster, Alphonse “Al” Capone. His inspiration is both from Al Capone as well as the English privateer, William le Sauvage. He also shares his birthday with Al Capone, with them both being born on January 17.

633 Responses to “One Piece 858 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第858話”

  1. Nasha - March 8, 2017 at 7:47 am #

    first?

  2. D. - March 8, 2017 at 7:49 am #

    First

  3. kizaruuu - March 8, 2017 at 8:03 am #

    Gear 2.nd!!

  4. Lex - March 8, 2017 at 8:03 am #

    2nd

  5. Serasa_Redup_Terang - March 8, 2017 at 8:09 am #

    wah serunyaaaaaa

  6. obasan addict - March 8, 2017 at 8:24 am #

    mama i’m coming, meow

  7. shambles - March 8, 2017 at 8:26 am #

    do you guys think they will be able to execute their flawless plan or will it just end up being mess and fights go all over the place?

    • Lame Duck - March 8, 2017 at 11:30 am #

      Im pretty sure it will turn into a “free for all” brawl… Things going smoothly is boring after all :D

  8. what - March 8, 2017 at 8:33 am #

    where are the pics?

  9. Da ROCK - March 8, 2017 at 8:53 am #

    Ceasar is the the trump card for Team mugiwara.. lets expect BM to also have one..

    how will Germa anticipate the plan. hope Reiju spilled the beans already and they prepare for what will happen.

    ill gave it 2-3 more chapter before we see the actual tea party…

    • Cp3.14 - March 8, 2017 at 11:08 am #

      You think he would unleash one of his super weapons on WCI? I mean he does have a full lab just like the PH one.

      • Da ROCK - March 8, 2017 at 11:48 am #

        if Ceasar will have access to the lab then he might, but i guess he will be there for a reason.. i think his gas ability is very much usefull on the circumstances, people will gather and as as Bege is the security in charge, he might release ceasar’s gas on the tea party. paralyze gas maybe?

  10. lol - March 8, 2017 at 8:55 am #

    lol i was right!

  11. obasan addict - March 8, 2017 at 9:07 am #

    why is it always nami??? c’mon oda, brulee is there, let her takes a bath for once

    • Ty - March 8, 2017 at 10:11 am #

      LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

  12. Sakanade - March 8, 2017 at 9:16 am #

    How would Lola fuck a giant?

    • Da ROCK - March 8, 2017 at 9:21 am #

      thats the reason she went away.. she aint let her puspus get whacked by the giant prince.. LOL

    • kom5 - March 8, 2017 at 9:21 am #

      How can Neptune nail Otohime

      • Pinkuashi Sanji - March 8, 2017 at 10:10 am #

        tinny dick though

      • Cp3.14 - March 8, 2017 at 10:57 am #

        He swims up in there like a sperm(whale)

      • Lame Duck - March 8, 2017 at 11:28 am #

        Well… if they are half fish… maybe they lay eggs? So no “sex” (as such) required.

      • rookman - March 8, 2017 at 3:55 pm #

        otohime had a fanny like a trout’s mouth

  13. Da ROCK - March 8, 2017 at 9:22 am #

    Hajrudin might rally the giants to the SH fleet.. what a sight that would be.

    • Cp3.14 - March 8, 2017 at 10:54 am #

      Yeah it’s definitely been hinted that he will become the king of Elbaf, likely now by defeating Loki (judging a book by its name). It’s also been hinted heavily that he will do this by eating a logia DF, which I imagine either the current Elbaf king or Loki also has a logia DF, and that is where Hadrujin got the idea. There’s also a ton of evidence that the giants were a major Allie of the ancient kingdom. Keep in mind also whether they were allies or not, Giants live for 300+ years, so the Giants should all know what happened during the void century since many living Giants would have had parents or at least certainly grandparents alive during that time.

      • Da ROCK - March 8, 2017 at 11:54 am #

        Elbaf seems to have a lot of citizen until now.. Hajrudin and the mercenary squad + the giant VAs of the marines + Dory and Brogy…
        Elbaf as i see is a powerful kingdom given they have a lot of strong warriors.

        but i think what is stonger than giants is Oars’ race.. dunno if its extinct now or what but i think Oars jr is still alive.

        • nad - March 8, 2017 at 4:50 pm #

          Most of Marine Giants are not from Elbaf

  14. lol - March 8, 2017 at 9:32 am #

    lol i called it, i told you, lola loved elbaf giant. but you adults called me idiot kid. where are you adults? show yourself lol

  15. lol - March 8, 2017 at 9:37 am #

    i haven’t seen brother bob in a while, brother bob? brother bob? are you ok? answer me

  16. Cp3.14 - March 8, 2017 at 10:45 am #

    The best part of this chapter is the reveal that Elbaf is “the strongest (independent) kingdom”. I suppose it always was a prime candidate for that role, along with Wano, however I guess I always figured there was at least 1 nonWG multi island empire that would hold that title

    • Sakanade - March 8, 2017 at 10:54 am #

      I dont think Elbaf is part of WG since we havent seen giants at the reverie.

      • Cp3.14 - March 8, 2017 at 10:59 am #

        Neither do I, that’s what I meant by independent

        • Sakanade - March 8, 2017 at 11:04 am #

          Im suspecting the 4th lost poneyglyph is in Elbaf.

        • Cp3.14 - March 8, 2017 at 11:11 am #

          That’s my guess as well, either there or the WG/ CDs already have it at marijoa, if this is the case I believe a copy of that phonoglyph somehow ended up sewed into Luffys straw hat.

        • Da ROCK - March 8, 2017 at 11:58 am #

          i would love to have it in Marijoa.. under the possession of the Gorosei. how to get it is the big question

    • Aer - March 8, 2017 at 12:11 pm #

      Wano is not a kingdom.. it is an isolated country not even a world government could enter this country because every citizen here are warriors and master swordsmen.. elbaf however is the strongest kingdom coonected to WG..

      • Suki - March 8, 2017 at 3:04 pm #

        Well, you can still be a kingdom and not the affiliated to the WG

        • Suki - March 8, 2017 at 3:12 pm #

          and not be affiliated*

      • Cp3.14 - March 8, 2017 at 8:19 pm #

        Wano can be called a kingdom, all that word does is imply a type of internal government. The word kingdom can be synonymous with empire, country, territory etc. especially when you consider its being translated from another language

  17. Ganja - March 8, 2017 at 10:52 am #

    I wanna know how strong is loki tho? He must be admiral level

    • Cp3.14 - March 8, 2017 at 10:59 am #

      I bet either he or his father have a logia DF

      • Nidai Kitetsu - March 8, 2017 at 11:25 am #

        Hajurdin stated that he wanted the Mera Mera because no one had seen a giant with a logia before so at least for now there probably isn’t one, but having said that means that there obviously will be at some point.

        • Cp3.14 - March 8, 2017 at 8:22 pm #

          I think he asked “have you ever seen” not “no ones ever seen”, and not many people get to go to Elbaf see the prince/king and return to tell the tell, especially since it’s likely one of the last islands

    • Cp3.14 - March 8, 2017 at 11:05 am #

      Also, just imagine even if they just have 5 fighters with DF. 1 logia, and the other 4 with zoans and paremecia. Plus an army of giants, some with Haki! I believe they as a combined kingdom are even stronger than a yonko and that’s why BM said she would have been PK with their help. Also that would explain why the WG hasn’t been able to destroy them despite the fact that I’m sure they want to because they have 300+ years life spans and thus have to all know the secret to the void century and ancient kingdom, as they would have surely heard stories from there parents and grandparents.

    • kom5 - March 8, 2017 at 5:05 pm #

      Well giants combined with Big Mom could break the balance in the yonko well the king and prince must be at admiral level

  18. Kouhei - March 8, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

    Wano was said to be a strong independent Kingdom. Now Elbaf is said to be the strongest. I think it’s just too much hype.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - March 8, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

      what’s hype is that Big Mom said that with them she’d be able to defeat the 3 other Emperors and become PK.

      • Kouhei - March 8, 2017 at 1:41 pm #

        +1

      • aer - March 9, 2017 at 2:28 am #

        Big Mom just hyping everything.. he doesn’t even know if these combined giants could rival against the likes of WHitebeard and Shanks… hahahha

  19. Kouhei - March 8, 2017 at 12:04 pm #

    According to the spoiler, Big Mom thought that she would suffer badly and would be killed one day.

    Elbaf > Yonko.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - March 8, 2017 at 12:28 pm #

      that might be referring to Lola, it said peas in a pod so im suspecting that it’s referring to the whole twin connection between Lola and Chiffon.

      • Kouhei - March 8, 2017 at 1:42 pm #

        That makes more sense. Unless BM was thinking that about herself.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - March 8, 2017 at 2:04 pm #

          but then that would mean that Big Mom was meant to marry a giant too and the reason that they hate her is because just like Lola she ditched her wedding.

          that could mean that the only reason she really became a Yonko is so that she could protect herself against Elbaf

  20. asd - March 8, 2017 at 12:54 pm #

    Okay, I see the avalanche started again.

    Suddenly everybody expects the giants to be overpowered and Loki to be equal with an admiral in power level.
    Don’t forget that we haven’t seen any strong giants yet.
    Hajrudin was defeated by 1 punch from Luffy..and ordinary punch.
    Brogy, Dory, and the 2 giants at Ennies Lobby were weaklings.
    Even Little Oars Jr. was a weakling.
    The only one who was a problem was Oars at Thriller Bark, but he doesn’t count since it was only a dead body with Luffy’s shadow.

    Also remember when you overestimated the Fishman, coz 1 normal fishman’s strength worth 10 normal human’s strength.
    At the end all of them were weakling. Luffy knocked out 50000 fishmen with his Haki. Easily defeated Hody who ate a lot of drugs. Luffy or Zoro could all of them all alone.

    The other overestimated power are the Vinsmokes and Germa 66. Wow modified humen, much clone, very power…and then Reiju was defeated by a gun. Also Yonji was beaten by Sanji, who is the loser since timeskip.

    Bobbin?
    Bobbin was introduced by telling Big Mom he just destroyed an island. You guys went nuts about how incredibly strong he must be. He is the top subordinate of Big Mom! Admiral level for sure! Zoro will have a hard time fighting him!
    What happened? He was kicked into the wall by Sanji, and shot nearly to death by Bege…

    And the list could go on.
    So I advice to chill down and wait until we reach Elbaf and know the actual power of the giants.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - March 8, 2017 at 1:06 pm #

      that depends on who you’re comparing them to though.

      Fishmen are 10x stronger than regular humans, the weak fodder ones, not against already superpowered humans like Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. which is why Luffy was easily able to defeat the Fishmen, since 10x the strength of a regular human was nothing for him.

      but if Elbaf is meant to be the strongest nation then it has to measure up with other nations like Wano.

      we know that the Shogun of Wano has to be at least as strong as the top commander of a Yonko, so that sets the precedent for Elbaf.

      • Kouhei - March 8, 2017 at 1:49 pm #

        I agree. @asd is talking about what we saw, but we don’t know nothing about Ichiji, Niji and Judge. It’s not like all of them have the same power level. About Bobbin, I was one of those who thought that he was Admiral level, but I didn’t knew about the Enraged Army back then.

        Our perspective toward the unknown characters is always like this, we hype them. Sometimes we are wrong, but sometimes we are right (Fujitora).

        But anyway, “the strongest kingdom” is something to be considered. For now, I believe the pirates from Elbaf are nothing compared to the royals.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - March 8, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

          right and I would agree with him were it not for Elbaf being so mysterious even up til now, that alone suggests that there’s importance to it that needs to play out later.

          there’s a difference with Bobbin though, he had no significant feats to suggest that he was a powerhouse, destroying an island isn’t that big a deal at this point in OP, but being crowned the strongest nation in the midst of Wano and Zou is indeed a significant statement.

          for the Vinsmoke’s, Jujji being able to keep up with Sanji is a feat in itself and Niji hurting him that bad, regardless of whether Sanji allowed for it to happen gives credence to their strength too, although it’s not like it would be something to be revered, matching Vergo or around that area would what i’d expect.

        • Law of Ueki - March 8, 2017 at 2:38 pm #

          elbaf arc will be the year of ussop.

    • Suki - March 8, 2017 at 3:11 pm #

      >Wow modified humen, much clone, very power…

      LOL

      But yeah I agree, overestimating everything and everyone is, sadly, a thing that happens way more often than really needed.

      Theres a bazillion things in the OP universe to care about but people only focus on whos stronger than who, comparisons, non existing fights, etc etc.

      Comparing X to Y in a FICTIONAL work makes no sense. The story evolves around a protagonist and it doesn’t follow any linear logic.

    • kram - March 9, 2017 at 6:51 am #

      jaguar d. saul was a vice admiral. and it was said that all vice admiral has haki. though it was not shown as it was early in the series. and that was years ago. saul was also shown to be much stronger than your usual giant as he can easily lift a buster call ship. and it was said that he was born outside of elbaf. so i guess there are much more stronger giants in elbaf.

  21. Luffy - March 8, 2017 at 1:22 pm #

    @nidai,

    Good prediction about Lola marrying giants, Big Mom hated by giants (though I remember it was the other way around, Big Mom hated giants and the giants hated her first) if ever you’re the one who predicted it,

    will give you a + 1

    Hi guys God bless :]

    • Nidai Kitetsu - March 8, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

      idk if you could even narrow down who predicted it, since it became everyone’s first thought immediately after the chapter where Big mom’s hatred for Lola was revealed.

  22. Kurohige - March 8, 2017 at 1:43 pm #

    Romance Dawn was inspired by a viking show that Oda used to watch when he was small, it’s only normal that Elbaf who seem to be inspired by Nordic methology is made to be the strongest Nation in One Piece

  23. Kouhei - March 8, 2017 at 1:52 pm #

    Shanks is also ispired by vikings. His ship and the red hair too, comes from Erik the red.

  24. lol - March 8, 2017 at 2:16 pm #

    vito is a monster, cool. i thought he was a chameleon, but now it says he is a monster gun, monster gun vito, what is that? zoan?

    • Law of Ueki - March 8, 2017 at 2:40 pm #

      paramecia.. gun gun fruit..?

  25. Akagami no shanks - March 8, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

    Shanks is residing at Elbaf. Mark my words.