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One Piece 865 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第865話

2017 May 10

One Piece 865 Spoiler: The last Chapter end with Brook destroys the picture of mama caramel.……!!! So what happens next..? find out story on One Piece 865 Spoiler Discussion 「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第865話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoiler or prediction, please leave a comment below.

ONEPIECE Chapter 865 Hey, Mother

Source: 2ch
Trans : Zoro4Prez2016

Ceasar, carrying Brulee, sets up the escape mirror in front of the venue.
Katakuri attempts to stop Luffy from trying to show Big Mom the picture.

Sanji attempts to heads towards and save his family but is restrained by the genie.
Reiju: (I’ve underestimated your kindness. You couldn’t even leave us and run away.)
Reiju: (I have continued living a life of disgracing the Vinsmoke name…but looking at the grown up me…)
Reiju: (and rescuing me…! Because a conscious still resides in our family’s blood.)
Reiju smiles towards Sanji.
Reiju: (Thank you, Sanji.)

Bege faces off Katakuri and attempts to shoot him, but Katakuri changes his entire body into a mochi-like substance and confronts him.
The bullets pierce his body, but he is unwounded and attacks Luffy.
Pedro and Jinbe attempt to stop him, but he turns his entire body into mochi and easily evades them. He captures Luffy.

Despite being restrained by Katakuri, Luffy stretches his arm to its fullest and shows Big Mom the broken picture.
Big Mom loses her senses and lets out a strange yell.
Guests lose consciousness one by one and almost all the siblings surrounding the Vinsmoke family collapse.
Sanji breaks the candy restraining his family.

At the same time as Big Mom loses her senses, she drops her knees to the ground.
After confirming that she scraped her knees and is bleeding, Bege aims the KX launchers at her.
Nami and Carrot hand each Vinsmoke a capsule that appears to hold their raid suits.

BM: (Hey, are you listing, Mother)
BM: (Everyone isn’t listing to what I say)
BM: (Hey, where did you go Mother?)
BM: (Why did you disappear so suddenly?)

Big Mom’s flashback beings 63 years ago at Elbaf in the New World

Break Next Week

One Piece 865 Spoiler trivia : Jinbe holds the longest time from his mention to his full reveal (mentioned in Chapter 69, December 1998, appeared Chapter 528, January 2009), for over 10 years and 458 chapters.

2,511 Responses to “One Piece 865 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第865話”

  1. Sane - May 22, 2017 at 1:11 pm #

    Now that germa is on Luffys sidw and they got their raid suits up who do we expect them to fight? Imma say Ichiji will show us his prowess and fight the commander smoothie.

    • asd - May 22, 2017 at 1:28 pm #

      Vinsmokes are pathetic weakling. I think there won’t be a fight like Ichiji vs Smoothie.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - May 22, 2017 at 1:32 pm #

      if im right about their powers then i’d say Ichiji will fight Oven, maybe Niji fights Daifuku, Reiju fights Compote.

  2. Sakanade - May 22, 2017 at 3:36 pm #

    How many D’s are there alive now? And what could be the link? I dont think its bloodline, giants cant be related to humans. But at the same time the D’s inherit the name from their parents, just like Luffy and Ace. So i think its something inherited from their parents at this stage. But not a long time ago.

    • asme - May 22, 2017 at 4:02 pm #

      just like doflamingo said on chapter 801. who can tell where and when they will appear refering to D. Ofc There will be many D. Also wb said something about D that unrelated to bloodline, He said luffy is the man is who gold roger waiting for, its doesnt matter the bloodline is ended, somehow in the future someone will appear to take the burden of the hundred years of history. U marine the greatest war that you very scare is coming. One Piece does exist!!

      remember that legend speech on volume 59

      • asme - May 22, 2017 at 4:09 pm #

        Is WB talk about prophecy that gold roger told to him? I think there’s posibility we will see the poneglyph with the information like this. Btw We already see the prophecy in one piece !! just like poseidon will born again at the form of mermaid princess. the second one is luffy is gonna destroy fishman island

      • asme - May 22, 2017 at 4:16 pm #

        The conclusion is luffy destined to have the fate of D people, To change the injustice history. The work done by gold roger is already halfaway. Now luffy inherited gold roger dreams!!

      • Sakanade - May 22, 2017 at 4:25 pm #

        Somebody cant write english properly…

        • Scholes - May 22, 2017 at 8:18 pm #

          who cares, dump fuck.

    • antarus - May 22, 2017 at 4:41 pm #

      d seems to be ”half moon” thing, not real d work

      we know about the races from the sky and moon people, so d’s could be aliens

    • Fate - May 24, 2017 at 5:13 am #

      Dont know ask d’penyetz

  3. david - May 23, 2017 at 3:00 am #

    Is there inflation in the One Piece world. One hundred years ago Dorry and Brogy had bounties of 100 million each.

    • antarus - May 23, 2017 at 8:22 am #

      I guess when you get old they tend to lower the bounties. chinajo was said to be work 500 in his Youth days

    • Suki - May 23, 2017 at 2:31 pm #

      That would imply both giant’s bounties were the highest of that time, if so, yes, an inflation of a bout 100% in a hundred years is plausible.

      This means an average 1% inflation per year so whoever is in charge of the WG economic department is doing a great job.

  4. Xcalibur100 - May 23, 2017 at 5:02 am #

    SO… Just like Snack who’s never been seen this Arc and who’s not a Commander anymore will Cracker share the same fate as him? If that happens Big Mom Commanders would come down to 2 from 4 and we’ve yet to see what Smoothie is capable of..

    • antarus - May 23, 2017 at 9:33 am #

      bm doesn’t like failure, reason opera left sure she would kl him.

      likely she kld snack, not urouge, and will do the same to cracker once she has some free time, for allowing shs to escape and wreck her wedding.

      i would not hold my breath for smoothie.

      she can suck juice out of you and maybe has some generic sword slashes, but that’s about it.

      • Bob - May 23, 2017 at 11:55 am #

        my theory is that snack joined urouge’s crew

  5. Leptor - May 23, 2017 at 5:15 am #

    Very good chapter for The Tower Of God.

    The chapter provides a lot of context about Lord Joe’s character. I can see both sides of the discussion. It’s strange seeing The Grands in a somewhat antagonistic perspective even though I somewhat understand why they’re doing what they’re doing. The Soul Weapon seems very interesting. It stands out as one of the most interesting Weapons in a series with a lot of interesting Weapons. Rachel helping Koon is sort of strange but I like that scene.

    Urek Mazino is such a bad ass character. His character has no care in the world but I suppose when you’re that powerful of a character it makes sense. I’m interested in seeing how the teams are split up after Urek Mazino’s discussion with Lord Joe.

    I give this chapter a 7.5/10 (rounding to 8/10).

  6. Death - May 23, 2017 at 9:46 am #

    Life.

    • Persona - May 23, 2017 at 10:41 am #

      Comma

    • Suki - May 23, 2017 at 2:27 pm #

      Peanuts.

  7. Oda on Hiatus - May 23, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

    Almost 2500 comments in this section … compared to the others i think we should rename this si as onepiecespoilers.com :)))

    • Kouhei - May 23, 2017 at 1:21 pm #

      IIRC Naruto section surpassed OP a few times, but OP always ruled here. World Trigger had a good run before the hiatus, and we had great discussions there, IMO better than OP. Admin should open Kingdom, The Promised Neverland and Tower of God sections, since they are the best after OP IMO.

  8. Billy - May 23, 2017 at 4:20 pm #

    Nidai,

    http://www.mangaspoiler.com/2017/05/10/one-piece-865-spoiler%e3%80%8c%e3%83%af%e3%83%b3%e3%83%94%e3%83%bc%e3%82%b9-%e3%83%8d%e3%82%bf%e3%83%90%e3%83%ac%e3%80%8d-%e7%ac%ac865%e8%a9%b1/comment-page-14/#comment-935440

    The justification is here:

    http://www.mangaspoiler.com/2017/05/10/one-piece-865-spoiler%e3%80%8c%e3%83%af%e3%83%b3%e3%83%94%e3%83%bc%e3%82%b9-%e3%83%8d%e3%82%bf%e3%83%90%e3%83%ac%e3%80%8d-%e7%ac%ac865%e8%a9%b1/comment-page-14/#comment-935431

    • Sakanade - May 23, 2017 at 4:33 pm #

      I actually agree on the premise that Akainu > old sick WB. So definitely a health young WB > Akainu.

      • Sakanade - May 23, 2017 at 4:34 pm #

        *disagree

    • Nidai Kitetsu - May 24, 2017 at 1:45 am #

      but you cannot measure how much he had weakened because you have no clear example of his strength in his prime.

      he got weaker but how much. there’s no means by which to make any claims with any level of assurance.

      but had he gotten so weak that he was fodder to the other Yonko he’d have been killed by the others ages ago.

      as stated by Big Mom the Elbaf warriors would have made her stronger than the other Yonko, but she specifically said “even” WB, meaning that even among the Yonko WB was no joke.

      so Akainu being stronger than WB 2 years ago, is confirmation that Admirals are on par with the Yonko regardless of whether WB was stronger than Akainu in his prime or not.

      which confirms that Yonko = Admiral

      • Cp3.14 - May 24, 2017 at 2:31 am #

        There is substantial evidence that during marineford WB was focusing his CoC back onto himself as a means of (temporarily) overcoming/ fending off his own death. This explains how he was able to survive such extreme battle damage, even getting a large chunk of is head and body “magma-ized”. As well as why despite having seen him use CoC even during his extremely brief schermish with Shanks, he barely used such an ability during the war, and the only time I can recall that he did use it during marineford it seemed to cause him great pain and he began to cough up blood (likely due to him loosing focus on the essential CoC he was using to keep himself alive). So at the very least I’d say marineford WB was handicapped by not being able to use his CoC not to mention the distraction and loss of focus that would cause, this all in addition to the obvious physical handicaps he was suffering. I believe a prime healthy WB would have at the very least stomped preTS Akiunu, if not even been able to match or possibly even win against 2 admirals at once. Then again I do believe there is a difference in strength between an admiral and a fleet admiral

        • Nidai Kitetsu - May 24, 2017 at 3:17 am #

          evidence? how is there evidence of him doing that when CoC has never been shown in any way to do any of that?

          no one is arguing that he was weaker, that’s a certainty. but just look at your claim.

          you’re saying that he went from being so strong that he could take on and win against 2 admirals at once, to being so weak that he couldn’t last 10 minutes against 1 admiral and being thrown onto the defensive after just a few seconds against any of them.

          that’s what I want justification for. where do you get that obscene jump from?

          even half dead from his injuries Zoro was able to defeat Hatchie and Daz Bones quite easily, Doflamingo and Luffy were able to use the same massively powerful attacks that they could at full strength and the power of all those attacks didn’t change at all despite being at their physical limits.

          so why is it that their powers don’t change when weakened but for WB it’s a night and day difference?

          so why should we believe that WB’s attacks would be stronger at all? let alone to the insane degree that you’re claiming.

          and im not saying that he himself wouldn’t be stronger, of course he would be, he’d have more stamina and agility etc. meaning that the fight would go on for longer and he’d be able to move more freely, but in no way does that translate to him going from being clearly weaker than Akainu to being strong enough to stomp him. even being stronger than Akainu in his prime – which he most likely was – would still mean that they were close in strength.

  9. raja - May 23, 2017 at 4:58 pm #

    Current ongoing shared universe Series
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_shared_universes_in_film

    Marvel Cinematic Universe 2008
    DC Extended Universe 2013
    MonsterVerse 2014
    Dark Universe 2017

    What next?

    • Persona - May 24, 2017 at 1:12 am #

      Starwars universe
      Alienverse
      But it all started with MCU!
      MWAHAHAHAH

      • Cp3.14 - May 24, 2017 at 2:33 am #

        Howard the duck FTW!!

        • Persona - May 24, 2017 at 3:22 am #

          Howard is in MCU.
          Bet we’ll see his movie in ummm mcu phase 10??

        • Cp3.14 - May 24, 2017 at 8:42 am #

          What? He already had a movie, I guess you’d call it phase 0 though, along with the 1990s captain America movie and Blade.

        • Sanshiro Tamon - May 24, 2017 at 10:50 am #

          that’s not MCU

  10. antarus - May 23, 2017 at 5:15 pm #

    man so many terrorist attacks in europe in recent years, wtf.

    • Persona - May 24, 2017 at 1:12 am #

      Ariana Grande’s concert goes boom

  11. Sane - May 23, 2017 at 6:07 pm #

    Do you know what grinds my gears?

    People touching every door knob (especially the fridge) with their disgusting greasy hands and then don’t clean it.

    • antarus - May 23, 2017 at 6:08 pm #

      what gmg is all those cooks that finger the food you are about to eat like it’s a freaking piano

  12. warriors_not_winning_in_2016 - May 23, 2017 at 7:24 pm #

    fake spoiler for 866 maybe

    One Piece Chapter 866 Spoiler: Chapter Name “Restoration”

    > Elbaf…63 years ago
    > Bigmom was the original princess of Elbaf
    > Mother Caramel was a sister in the church
    > The King of Elbaf was an oppressor and plunderer (like the vikings). The Kingdom of Elbaf became enriched by plundering neighboring countries/islands. All of the male population were brought up to become warriors.
    > From here, the story turns out to be the mirror image of French Revolution
    > (French Revolution: The then queen Merry Antoinette’s First born was Marie Therese. She was the only sibling among four to survive the Reign of terror during French Revolution. Her mother and three siblings were executed. Bigmom mirrors the character of Marie Therese)
    > Mother Caramel hid Bigmom while the revolution was taking place. Mother Caramel left saying that she’ll take care of things.
    > Bigmom was left alone and she eventually escaped to the sea
    > “If you can not have foods, you can have sweets”. (Didn’t understand this dialogue. Probably it was a habit from her royal family time). Bigmom still can not shrug of the habit.
    > After becoming one of Yonkos, Bigmom reconciled with the new king of Elbaf
    > She became happy when Loki wanted to marry Lola as that would have given her an opportunity to regain her royal family status once again.
    > End of flashback and the story returns to present
    (It was translated from a Chinese spoier)

    • iMacTim - May 23, 2017 at 7:53 pm #

      Would be cool and the :

      “If you can not have foods, you can have sweets”. (Didn’t understand this dialogue. Probably it was a habit from her royal family time).”

      is linked to Marie Antoinette story (somedy told her that people don”t have bread to eat, she said “Let them eat cake!” (she was considered a little bit stupid but also very nice)

      Link please ! :)

  13. Sakanade - May 23, 2017 at 8:36 pm #

    Pirates of the Caribbean 5 worth the money?

    • Persona - May 24, 2017 at 1:14 am #

      Gonna watch it this sunday.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - May 24, 2017 at 1:46 am #

      apparently not, it got bitch slapped by critics, probably just wait for DVD.

    • Amashi - May 24, 2017 at 2:37 am #

      Im watching it tomorrow, so I’ll post my review about it then.

      @Nidai you sure cause the reviews I saw said the movie wasn’t great but it was at least decent and worth a watch. Oh well i’ll see tomorrow.

      • Nidai Kitetsu - May 24, 2017 at 3:04 am #

        I saw an article that ripped into pretty much every cast member except Kaya and essentially said that the movie was nothing more than a money grab designed to continue milking the franchise after only one good movie.

      • Persona - May 24, 2017 at 3:07 am #

        Well, it got the same premise.
        Good guys need jack to get something.
        Bad guys after jack to get revenge.
        Jack shows up as hero n escape in the end.
        The formula of Pirates of the Caribbean.

      • Amashi - May 24, 2017 at 7:49 am #

        @Nidai Yeh tru the movie did just seem like a money grab.

        @Persona lmao so true, all the pirates of the Caribbean movies had that same formula

  14. Persona - May 24, 2017 at 3:26 am #

    The director of the flash movie is nowhere to be found.
    The gl corps movie got no news whatsoever.
    Aquaman release date is pushed back.
    N where t f is that gambit movie?
    New mutants sounds promising but it’ll be hit n miss.
    Gifted tv series trailer didn’t look great.
    Legion season 2 is in everyone’s waiting list tho.
    Yeah. Mcu may not be perfect but dceu and fox’s xmen verse is worse.

    • Nidai Kitetsu - May 24, 2017 at 3:47 am #

      apparently GL will be a buddy cop movie set in space, almost like what Thor 3 is building to be between Thor and Hulk. I’ve heard that both Hal Jordan and John Steward will be part of it.

      and Xmen is apparently getting a reboot or probably more of a reset like what Days of Future Past was, keeping the cast but starting the story from scratch.

      also there’s Shazam for DCEU, which also has little in ways of news about it.

      • Persona - May 24, 2017 at 4:27 am #

        Yeah, shazam with the rock as black adam n that’s all. Lol

  15. warriors_not_winning_in_2016 - May 24, 2017 at 4:49 am #

    supposedly spoiler for 866 it says not not copy and paste so i am posting the link here
    http://www.manganetabarespoiler.com/manga-spoiler/one-piece-866-spoiler

  16. warriors_not_winning_in_2016 - May 24, 2017 at 4:50 am #

    Title: Natural Born Destroyer

    Big Mom was born to human parents but was over 5 metres tall when she was 5 years old

    Due to her large size and simple minded personality she caused a lot of damage in her hometown and got sent alone to Elbaf

    Elbaf and Carmel – an explanation
    100 years ago 2 of the captains of the Giant Pirates who shook the world went missing. Having lost the top and not knowing what to do, the remainder were captured and about to be slaughtered by the marines when a young sister appeared.

    The sister said that if the execution went ahead, those responsible would anger the giants and earn their retribution.

    The sister’s name was Carmel and she opened a home for children without asking about their race. That home was called the ‘Goat’s Home(?)’.

    Carmel always encouraged the other kids to get along well with young Linlin despite her causing trouble due to her simple mindedness.

    The giants took in BM 10 years ago. Young Linlin was playing with the daughters of the giants.

    12 days before the Winter Solstice, Elbaf has a tradition where they fast and give thanks to the sun. Before fasting the giants eat sweet snacks called semura for nutrition. Linlin loved those sweets and ate them eagerly.

    Linlin managed to fast for 6 days but on the 7th day she showed signs of her illness and destroyed the giants’ village. Yororo, one of the giant captains declared that Linlin was an evil spirit who had taken the form of a child. Despite Carmel’s desperate persuasion, he ordered an execution.

    Source: 2ch

    • Da ROCK - May 24, 2017 at 5:58 am #

      Thanks as always for being quick :)

  17. Great General Ri Shin - May 24, 2017 at 4:50 am #

    Fuh chapter 866
    Title: Natural Born Destroyer

    Big Mom was born to human parents but was over 5 metres tall when she was 5 years old

    Due to her large size and simple minded personality she caused a lot of damage in her hometown and got sent alone to Elbaf

    Elbaf and Carmel – an explanation
    100 years ago 2 of the captains of the Giant Pirates who shook the world went missing. Having lost the top and not knowing what to do, the remainder were captured and about to be slaughtered by the marines when a young sister appeared.

    The sister said that if the execution went ahead, those responsible would anger the giants and earn their retribution.

    The sister’s name was Carmel and she opened a home for children without asking about their race. That home was called the ‘Goat’s Home(?)’.

    Carmel always encouraged the other kids to get along well with young Linlin despite her causing trouble due to her simple mindedness.

    The giants took in BM 10 years ago. Young Linlin was playing with the daughters of the giants.

    12 days before the Winter Solstice, Elbaf has a tradition where they fast and give thanks to the sun. Before fasting the giants eat sweet snacks called semura for nutrition. Linlin loved those sweets and ate them eagerly.

    Linlin managed to fast for 6 days but on the 7th day she showed signs of her illness and destroyed the giants’ village. Yororo, one of the giant captains declared that Linlin was an evil spirit who had taken the form of a child. Despite Carmel’s desperate persuasion, he ordered an execution.

    Source: 2ch

    Translation: @Den_Den_Mushi

    • Claude - May 24, 2017 at 5:04 am #

      I was reading about Mount Carmel the other day and found out that Mount Carmel is also known as “Sleeping Giant” and this (According to Native Americans of the Quinnipiac Tribe, the giant stone spirit Hobbomock (or Hobomock), a prominent wicked figure in many stories (see Pocumtuck Ridge and Quinnipiac), became enraged about the mistreatment of his people and stamped his foot down in anger, diverting the course of the Connecticut River (where the river suddenly swings east in Middletown, Connecticut after several hundred miles of running due south). To prevent him from wreaking such havoc in the future, the good spirit Keitan cast a spell on Hobbomock to sleep forever as the prominent man-like form of the Sleeping Giant)

      Its beginning to sound the same as this story.

  18. Nidai Kitetsu - May 24, 2017 at 5:17 am #

    Big Mom’s not a giant, she’s just a fucked up kid

  19. Nidai Kitetsu - May 24, 2017 at 5:29 am #

    this one has a bit more detail. including mentioning Hajrudin as a kid

    Chapter title is “NATURAL BORN DESTROYER”.

    Big Mom’s height was already more than 5 meters when she was born although her parents were normal humans.
    Her big body and innocent personality caused a large damage to her hometown, which is why she was exiled to Elbaf.

    *Explanation about Elbaf and Carme

    Giant Pirates terrified the world 100 years ago, but it became a legend ever since 2 captains disappeared one day.
    A young Sisiter named Carmel appeared when the rest of the members of Giant Pirates were captured and about to get executed by Marine.
    She said , “If Marine execute them, it would add hatred of Giants and humans will be retaliated by them”.

    Carmel began to be called as Mother (Holy Mother) and she opened a facility called “Sheep’s Home”,
    which protects children who have no other place to go no matter what race and status they belong.

    Big Mom visited Sheep’s Home. Her innocent personality caused her to try to tear off a hand of Long Arm tirbe children and a filet of Fishmen.
    Carmel didn’t accuse of her and persuade other children to get along wellwith Big Mom.

    10 years later

    Big Mom was accepted even among Giants. She was hanging around with a Giant girl at an avenue, At the avenue, Hairudin was training himself.

    Two Giants watched over him kindly. One is named “Waterfall Beard “Yoruru (344 years old) and “Mountain Beard” Yaruru ((345 years old),
    who were the oldest warriors in the world. They had been the captains of Giant Pirates before.

    There was a custom in Elbaf that they need to do fasting and thank to sun for 12 days until Winter Solstice Festival.
    They were supposed to eat many sweets called “Semura” before the fasting. Big Mom ate huge amount of Semura in Giant village since she was addicted to it.

    Fasting started. Big Mom endured for 6 days, but her “Craving Sickness” occurred at the 7th day. She devastated the village of Elbaf.

    Yoruru convicted Big Mom that she is Evil God who pretends to be a kid. He decided to execute her despite Carmel’s persuasion.

    End of the chapter.

    • Da ROCK - May 24, 2017 at 6:01 am #

      The 2 giant captains were Broggy and Dorry..

      if Linlin grew 5M when she was 6 yrs old. then could it be considered a disease?

      • Nidai Kitetsu - May 24, 2017 at 6:12 am #

        it could just be the weird way in which people are in One Piece, since WB, Kaido, Jozu, Moriah and Kuma are all just as big or even bigger than her.

      • Cp3.14 - May 24, 2017 at 8:39 am #

        I think it’s saying these are 2 previous Giant captains most likely long before predecessors to Broggy and Dorry

        • Da ROCK - May 24, 2017 at 9:32 am #

          Dorry and Broggy are somewhat weak IMHO.

          probably, but it would add spice to the story that they are the 2 captains missing.

          having them and Hajrudin, will make it easier for Luffy and his crew to make ties with the Kingdom of elbaf.

    • Persona - May 24, 2017 at 6:05 am #

      Then mother carmel sacrifice herself in order to let bm escape.
      So the flashback is 1.5 chapter.

  20. antarus - May 24, 2017 at 8:09 am #

    boring chapter. at least this flashback should be over soon, not taken much from next chapter.

    the only interesting thing is that bm was watching Hajrudin training. maybe she loves hajrudin?

    what if hajrudin shows up at this wedding, huh?

  21. antarus - May 24, 2017 at 8:12 am #

    I GOT ANOTHER PREDICTION RIGHT, IT’S LIKE ME AND ODA THING ALIKE

    bm’s dream to make a place with all races is carmel’s dream as you can see this chapter. she took her dream upon herself.

    • Oda on Hiatus - May 24, 2017 at 8:22 am #

      Yup, that seems like it, but there must be a catch behind all this. It should explain why BM fucking executes your family if you dont attend a wedding or why she become |Yonkou or why and how she got that devil fruit… so if that will be the only explanation it pretty much sucks.

  22. antarus - May 24, 2017 at 8:14 am #

    giants humans that have nothing to do with giants. ok…

  23. antarus - May 24, 2017 at 8:17 am #

    what if bm kld carmel in her rampage by accident, that’s why it torments her the past

    • antarus - May 24, 2017 at 8:18 am #

      carmel wasn’t executed in her place, since bm knows she just vanished

      • Oda on Hiatus - May 24, 2017 at 8:24 am #

        Probably she helped her escape but the orphanage or Sheeps Home thing was destroyed/left behind and she entrusted BM with that promise to build something like that .. but since it’s about Elbaf we deserve a more complex flashback or at least a flashback that reveals other things then just why BM is so fat and anoying.

        • antarus - May 24, 2017 at 8:27 am #

          well she seems to like sweets since kid, seems the reaon for her fatness. but doesn’t explain her 5 meters tall thing, thats is just wierd

        • antarus - May 24, 2017 at 8:38 am #

          also 43 births can do that to her body lol

  24. antarus - May 24, 2017 at 8:28 am #

    Weel, seems Elbaf is not that strong( btw its Elbah or somethign now, so no more fable backwards theory) if 15 years old BM wrecked the Village of elbaf

    • Oda on Hiatus - May 24, 2017 at 10:31 am #

      It is also very possible that the Soru Soru no mi was among the sweets or somewhere in the village and she ate it by accident, thus giving her the power to destroy the village. It would also go well with the explanation that DF come from that sacred tree or something.

  25. antarus - May 24, 2017 at 9:06 am #

    I still don’t understand why dorry and brogy went all the way from elbaf to little graden.

    and for one of the best crew in the nw, they sure looked very weak

    • kram - May 24, 2017 at 9:45 am #

      if you’re done roaming your continent where do you go? it’s just like lola’s adventure. she was from new world so basically she may have been to the other island of new world or just want a new adventure out of new world. for someone who’s from new world, they travel backwards. and i don’t think that they are looking for one piece since it’s 60-70 years before roger’s pirate era. so it’s just an adventure to new seas…