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One Piece 877 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第877話

2017 August 30
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One Piece 877 Spoiler: The last Chapter end with A huge thunder hits Big Mom…!!! So what happens next..? find out story on One Piece 875 Spoiler Discussion 「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第876話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoiler or prediction, please leave a comment below

ONEPIECE 877 Spoiler

Source: 2ch
Translation: Redon@AP
Tittle: Not Sweet

At the Sunny
Reinforcements keep coming from the mirror
Perospero has restrained Chopper and Brook with candy and they can’t move
As his body is being covered in candy, Chopper cries that he doesn’t want to turn into sweets
Along comes Luffy and co who are running from BM
Katakuri predicts that his underlings will be defeated by Luffy and co, so he tells them to retreat into the mirror
Perospero makes an iron maiden out of candy, Candy Maiden to attack Luffy
However Luffy breaks it with Red Hawk
Perospero flinches due to Luffy’s flames
Katakuri faces off with Luffy
He is stuck between BM and Katakuri
Jinbe starts preparing for them to escape while Luffy takes on Katakuri
Luffy vs Katakuri begins in earnest
Pedro starts to talk to Carrot
Pedro: Carrot don’t be surprised by something that’s going to happen suddenly
Carrot: Eh?
Pedro: Here’s what I think. Luffy and the others are going to bring about the dawn of the world that our clan and Kozuki clan have awaited for the past centuries!
Carrot: Centuries?

Perospero tells his subordinates to surround the coast with battleships
Nami says they can’t escape by sailing out normally and prepares a coup de burst
However Perospero covers the ship in candy and prevents it
Pedro attempts to save Luffy and co from this desperate situation
However Perospero notices and restrains him
Pedro uses some bombs that he had been hiding to take Perospero with him
Pedro: Now your magic will come undone! Farewell.
The bomb goes out and Pedro and Perospero are enveloped in flames.

ONEPIECE 877 Chapter End

One Piece 877 Spoiler Trivia: Sanji received Swordsmen training when he was a child from his father, ironic considering Sanji couldn’t care less for swordsmen like Zoro, though it’s likely this training evolved into Sanji’s skill with kitchen knives.

1,360 Responses to “One Piece 877 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第877話”

  1. ~7OPofD.w0rld - September 15, 2017 at 10:29 pm #

    I believe BM will go down, but only after Luffy and co leave, since assuming that Chopper saw the Sun pirates “fishing” the underwater radars adding on top of that the injuries of 3 of her 4 sweet commanders, it means that BM territory would now be the most vulnerable…

    Now we only know of Stussy from the WG side, but there could also be a possibility that Absalom is there to gather information for someone like BB, but even if not Absalom, it wouldn’t be strange for Yonkous to have spies in enemy territory…anyway, might be pushing it, but I believe BB will take down BM or at least destroy her crew and allies and force her to flee OR the WG will finally show the might of the new gained power that Jimbe spoke of back in FI, either way, don’t want a second arc with BM as the main antagonist

    • GomoGomoNo - September 15, 2017 at 10:37 pm #

      Big Mom is being weakened but that’s because she has to be, she’s too strong at full power for the Strawhats. All of the Yonko are. That’s why vs Kaidou Oda is giving the Strawhats the Minks, Samurai/Ninja rebel, and the Marco pirates. When they fight Big Mom on Elbaf, the crew will be stronger and Big Mom will be weaker so that they match up evenly.

      As for her being vulnerable, she’s only vulnerable to other Yonko, but I think they’ll all be busy. Kaido is in a war right now while Blackbeard and Shanks has been foreshadowed since Part 1. BB and Shanks will likely weaken one another too.

      • ~7OPofD.w0rld - September 15, 2017 at 10:57 pm #

        U forgot about some of the supernovas against Kaido and possibly even Luffys new allies, but even so this arc was to long and not interesting enough for it to have a part 2…not gonna insist that it won’t happen, but I wouldn’t be hyped about it in the least…

        • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 12:33 am #

          Oh yeah, the supernovas too! That’s crazy stacked against just 1 Yonko.

          Personally I’ve really like this arc because I like really interesting DF’s and comedy. I don’t mind there not being too many fights. And I’m looking forward to Elbaf because Oda’s been hyping it so long and he’s basically tied Big Mom and Lola to that arc so there’s no way around it.

        • jammin' - September 16, 2017 at 1:57 am #

          I’d be hyped because I’d have just watched luffy take down kaido and ve ready for the world to react a second time. I personally love seeing how the world react to the strawhats in the news for something this crazy.

        • jammin' - September 16, 2017 at 1:58 am #

          Bounties are also a great bonus.

        • Goldroger - September 16, 2017 at 3:24 am #

          This arc bcame not interesting bcause the indication of bm wont fall while some others expect luffy beat a yonko on his first encounter and wano hype.
          But for some other this arc really amazing in the term of story and characters development.oda delivers messages for all those crybabies who have been blaming sanji not shine in his arc and “years” thru gold roger’s words this chapter

  2. Life - September 16, 2017 at 3:25 am #

    My wish came true, Luffy vs. Katakuri. :-D

  3. Life - September 16, 2017 at 3:26 am #

    I still believe that Pedro is still alive. Pedro couldn’t have been killed that way, it is further proven by Perospero, whom survived from the explosion.

    • Bob - September 16, 2017 at 3:56 am #

      Perospero survived because of the armor he was wearing, and even then he lost an arm

      • Life - September 16, 2017 at 4:12 am #

        Yes, I understand, but I mean, if Oda really intended to kill Pedro, he should have done it in a better way. Honestly, with Perospero survived from the explosion, Pedro’s death becomes ridiculous, at least to me, it is priceless, even if he managed to free Sunny from Peropero’s candy… The thing is Perospero is still alive, which I see it is a sign that Pedro is also still alive.

        • Bob - September 16, 2017 at 4:37 am #

          considering perospero was wearing candy armor it makes sense compared to that, but it doesn’t really make sense compared to someone like pell who was pretty fodder even by pre-time skip standards and survived a much higher caliber explosion. that being said this arc is filled with plotholes so it’s not that surprising to me at this point

        • Life - September 16, 2017 at 5:18 am #

          Well, I am not denying the fact that candy armor saved Perospero, it totally makes sense. I am merely concerning the end result which from my perspective is underwhelming for Pedro.

          For a character that has been foreshadowed since a long time, this ending is really underwhelming.

        • Goldroger - September 16, 2017 at 5:26 am #

          Imho Pedro’s main intention was to set free sh and make sure they could flee,killin peros just a bonus for him.it was very heroic act by him,and oda dedicated his name to the tittle of the page right on the chapter of his death,just like when ace and whitebeard death.luffy’s word about wont able face pedro again if they fail is can be meaning that they have take the opportunity that pedro give and not make pedro’s sacrified goes waste.it’s like inheriting ppl will or something

        • Life - September 16, 2017 at 5:55 am #

          @Goldroger

          Well, I can totally see it from your perspective, that is reasomable.

          If that is really the case, then Straw Hats are really on the thin ice. It got me thinking about the real power of Emperor’s crew, even someone like Pedro had to end his life in that way.

        • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

          This is what I’ve been saying since this arc started, they never stood a chance against Yonkous crew. It’s all been luck and circumstance that they’ve made it this far at all.

      • Ty - September 17, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

        Maybe I missed this, but where does it say that he was wearing candy armour?

  4. Life - September 16, 2017 at 3:49 am #

    I think some people forget about the balance between Zoro and Sanji. Ever since the post time skip (especially in the New World), Zoro only got inappropriate and incongruous battles with Monet and Pica. Compared to Katakuri, Monet and Pica are clearly nothing, both of them are stand on the lower level. So if Sanji fights Katakuri in this arc, it will absurdly break the balance between the two, especially if you also think that Sanji will get a decent fight in Wano (vs. One of the Calamities).

    • Life - September 16, 2017 at 3:58 am #

      Totto Land is only supposed to balance Dressrosa.

      Dressrosa: Zoro, Usopp, Robin, and Franky
      Totto Land: Sanji, Nami, Chopper, and Brook

      The real deal will happen in Wano, when the all the crew members present.

    • Bob - September 16, 2017 at 4:01 am #

      I didn’t expect Sanji to fight Katakuri this arc, but I thought he might fight him in Elbaf. I’m still not sure Luffy will defeat him this arc. On the one hand it would be fitting for this arc to have some kind of 1 vs 1 fight at the end, but it would be kind of underwhelming for her to have her strongest subordinate fall before the main arc. granted that happened with dressrosa, but an emperor’s crew is on a totally different level from doflamingo’s.

      some people think big mom will be finished off by someone else instead, like blackbeard, but I think that would be really anti-climactic after luffy’s repeated promises to come back and beat her someday plus his promise on fishman island and his statement that he was making fishman island his own territory.

      • Life - September 16, 2017 at 4:28 am #

        “I didn’t expect Sanji to fight Katakuri this arc, but I thought he might fight him in Elbaf”

        I personally doubt that Big Mom will make her second appearance in Elbaf.

        “I’m still not sure Luffy will defeat him this arc”

        Yeah, me too. I just want to see them clashes.

        “On the one hand it would be fitting for this arc to have some kind of 1 vs 1 fight at the end, but it would be kind of underwhelming for her to have her strongest subordinate fall before the main arc”

        What I see is if Katakuri is not going down, then Big Mom would make her second appearance in the last war.

        “granted that happened with dressrosa, but an emperor’s crew is on a totally different level from doflamingo’s.”

        Well, exactly. That is the reason why all top commanders (Cracker and Katakuri) ended up fighting Luffy. Not Nami, Sanji, Chopper, Brook, and even Jinbe. It is not that I think Sanji and Jinbe is incapable of fighting the commanders, but back to my initial point, this arc is supposed to balance Dressrosa. If Zoro only got Pica, then Sanji is enough with Bobbin and Daifuku.

        “some people think big mom will be finished off by someone else instead, like blackbeard, but I think that would be really anti-climactic after luffy’s repeated promises to come back and beat her someday plus his promise on fishman island and his statement that he was making fishman island his own territory”

        Yeah, I get your reason. It is only an alternative scenario which also my second scenario, my first scenario is Big Mom appears in the last battle or any great war that would happen in the near future (where she doesn’t become the main villain).

      • Bob - September 16, 2017 at 4:41 am #

        if Sanji got to fight and defeat someone actually powerful it could actually redeem him, zoro hasn’t been given losses nonstop post time skip so I don’t care about the balance with dressrosa really, sanji’s lost 100 times so he deserves a win against a strong opponent, zoro will get plenty of time to shine in wano while sanji will either share an opponent or fight fucking sheepshead so it wouldn’t hurt to give him 1 good opponent post time skip

        • Life - September 16, 2017 at 4:54 am #

          The cake will be Sanji’s golden moment in this arc, and I think there is a hope for Sanji to fight one of the Calamities in Wano, it would be enough to redeen him… Or as you said, Sanji fights Katakuri but not in this arc, it is surely a possibility, which also means that Sanji won’t have to fight one of the Calamities. That is the deal, Sanji couldn’t have both fights, all is supposed to make the logical and role balance between Zoro and Sanji.

          I am one of the people that think Zoro and Sanji stand on different level, despite the fact that Sanji is the 3rd strongest in the crew. So it is only fair and makes sense if Zoro’s achievement in combat is greater than Sanji’s. It is Zoro’s speciality and dream.

        • Life - September 16, 2017 at 4:57 am #

          Sanji couldn’t have both fights, he has to choose between Big Mom’s commander of Kaido’s commander… Only one of them.

        • Life - September 16, 2017 at 4:58 am #

          Big Mom’s commander “or” Kaido’s commander.

        • Bob - September 17, 2017 at 1:27 am #

          There’s no balance already because Sanji’s lost 100 times post time skip and Zoro hasn’t. I don’t see any reason why he can’t fight a strong opponent in 2 arcs, he used to fight strong opponents in every arc, and the main showdown isn’t until a later arc anyway. so it’s not like zoro will fight no one on big mom’s crew. on wano, I think it would be cool if Sanji fought jack and Zoro fought the shogun but it’s probably not going to happen. At best, Sanji might team up with Jimbei to fight Jack and that’s it.

          As far as him baking a cake, I don’t really care about that nor do I see it as him shining or redeeming himself. Everyone already knew he was a good cook, it’s his fights that have made him pathetic post time skip.

    • Goldroger - September 16, 2017 at 6:47 am #

      it take only luffy as captain to deal with SC like cracker or katakuri.forget about luffy facing 1 vs 1 against yonko.after him beating katakuri,then we are all can talk bout beat a yonko in toe to toe,just like ppl say current sanji or zoro that could beat fighting katakuri the biggest bounty in the arc,that ridiculous.some ppl think cuurent zoro could take on katakuri while sanji take cracker,jinbe take on smoothie and luffy face bm herself while the reality is none capable of take on SC except luffy.oda put smoothie on useless mode bcause of plot,the same way he put bm on insane mental mode.bcause if smoothie katakuri and bmom hasnt touched by plot,sh will get demolished in a chapter just like the way they get beaten up before tamatebako explode.but Luffy is fast learner,no need for him to get another 2 years of training.all he need just experience,which is that about he get from fight katakuri.

      The ussual formula where luffy fight the captain and zoro fight the second strongest is no longer valid anymore this time.bcause they move in an alliances.not as single crew anymore

      • Life - September 16, 2017 at 8:31 am #

        Well, I mostly agree with your point.

  5. Big dick johnson - September 16, 2017 at 3:57 am #

    Do you guys think that Raleigh s coo is as developed as katakuri? In other words can Raleigh see into the future?

    Also was it ever determined what power cracker used in the forest that was like Coc?

    • Bob - September 16, 2017 at 4:04 am #

      although I’m sure it was just more shitty plot convenience for an arc filled with it, I would say rayleigh’s is better since he could identify every single living thing across an entire island and even distinguish their power levels while katakuri couldn’t even differentiate his fallen crewmembers from the straw hats. granted even usopp was able to see “auras” from a long way away, so I’m guessing it was just shitty plot convenience

      • ~7OPofD.w0rld - September 16, 2017 at 9:55 am #

        “Shity plot convenience”…imo, coo and coa could manifest differently on different individuals just like u said Railigh was able to identify and distinguish different beasts across the island while Katakuri can see a bit into the future, as for coa Luffy seems to be the first shown to have tatoo like armament in G 4, don’t know if that makes it better or not though…and Shanks Haoushoku was so strong that it even damaged WB ship…might happen rarely, though I didn’t think Katakuris the last with side effects when it comes to haki

    • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 4:08 pm #

      There are different ways of using haki, so I think you have to focus in on whatever you want to specialize in…

      -Armament Haki-
      Basic stuff = Armor, hitting logias
      Advanced = Haki barriers, force push techniques, embued(black), etc.

      -Observation Haki-
      Basic stuff = See attacks coming
      Advanced = Sense strength, visualize hidden/unseen people, seeing the future, etc.

      -Kings Haki-
      Basic stuff = KO fodder
      Advanced = Target specific fodder to KO, affect environment, etc.

      …you start with whatever comes natural and then you can continue to learn more and more with time, which is why an old ass like Rayliegh can do mostly everything. Katakuri probably focuses mostly on seeing the future, and isn’t as good with sensing specifics lifeforms like Rayleigh.

      • Bob - September 17, 2017 at 1:32 am #

        or usopp apparently

  6. antarus - September 16, 2017 at 7:48 am #

    it was clear that sanji would only fight sweet commander this arc if luffy defeats big mom.

    if sanji would beat sweet commander from this arc then the only step above would be beating yonkous next arc or admirals, and we know that won’t happen lol

    • Life - September 16, 2017 at 8:53 am #

      Well, it is already confirmed if Oda really sticks on his words.

      Actually there is still a hope for Sanji to fight the calamity (with other helps or post time skip super duper power up, whatever), but only if the cake success to “stop” Big Mom. If not, then don’t expect anything from Sanji from now on, he would likely only fight some random Taikomochi in Wano. X-D

      • Life - September 16, 2017 at 8:56 am #

        Even worser is cooking suppa bento for the crew.

      • antarus - September 16, 2017 at 11:04 am #

        this arc he beats someone like perospero at best.

        next arc beats calamity with help as team up with jimbei.

        then maybe he solos a warlord or something

        then he solos calamity like in bb crew

        then admiral

        i still trust oda can deliver ….

        e

        • antarus - September 16, 2017 at 11:09 am #

          or the again he’ll star baking in every arc…

  7. asme - September 16, 2017 at 7:54 am #

    man. im fucking serrious about blackbeard come to whole cake island theory. here’s the reason…
    at chapter 824 we got information from the news world paper that “some unidentification guy” success to find the location of baltigo for WORLD GOVERNMENT” so then when WG agent are arrived they find black beard already destroyed Baltigo.

    Oh fuck! its the lies strory that has been made. i think the actual story is BLACK BEARD and WORLD GOVERNMENT working together to destroy dragon. they have some kind of realtion for mutual benefit. im sure with this. there are no reason they got intel from other person except BURGESS

    now we got information also that stussy is world government agent who watching all of this event on whole cake island.
    Just imagine it if katakuri defeated. pero pero also half dead cracker was beaten. how strussy wont inform his boss ??? How easiy it will be to destroy this big mom pirates without their stronggest commanders ??????

    Think about it this theory is so real for me

    • asme - September 16, 2017 at 8:10 am #

      if some guys like nidai predict luffy will doing it by himself. by defeating big mom alone i would rather predict luffy beat katakuri and black beard kill big mom and stole all of the devil fruit user in this island. it will be epic as hell like red wedding scene

    • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 3:57 pm #

      It’s very possible Blackbeard would go after Big Mom while she’s weakened, but Shanks will stop him. I think he’s more interested in keeping the balance of the 4 Yonkos just like when Shanks stopped Kaido from going after Whitebeard back then.

      But this time it won’t go peacefully and Blackbeard will fight Shanks. Their fight has been foreshadowed for most of this series so its the perfect time for it to happen.

  8. Life - September 16, 2017 at 8:29 am #

    Red Wedding is not something new in modern literature. Long before Game of Throne adopted this scheme, it had been featured in some classic mystery series like Doyle’s, Poe’s, and Christie’s. Especially Christie’s which mainly focus on romance and tragedy. I found many Game of Throne hardcore fans who feel incredibly excited and stubbornly think that God of Throne is the first one who invented this scheme in literature history. That is surely a big LOL for me, and honestly it is sometimes annoying.

    • asme - September 16, 2017 at 11:28 am #

      okay. I just dont know,
      Fine ?

      • Life - September 16, 2017 at 3:30 pm #

        Honestly it wasn’t addressed to you, it was just your post reminded me of some people out there.

  9. Komori Ningen - September 16, 2017 at 9:00 am #

    Luffy vs Katakuri is so much hype
    I’m as hyped as Luffy vs Cracker

    • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 3:48 pm #

      There was no hype for that comedy fight. Oda was sippin a drink and killing time when he wrote that Cracker fight.

      This is the real shit. Look at that face…

      https://i.imgur.com/ibLuF1a.jpg

  10. antarus - September 16, 2017 at 9:08 am #

    I would be hyped about kata vs luffy, but i think this is another battle based on exploiting the enemy weakness for water or eaters like crocoboy.

    i woyuld be more hyped about zoro vs vergo, type of battle. no weakness. no food, no candy,, NO SHIT in short.

    just 2 physical badass mofos nuke it out. kinda like zoro vs mr1, altrough i don’t buy zoro’s victory back then, i think mr 1 was stronger.

    • antarus - September 16, 2017 at 9:09 am #

      and considering corcodile even was in the new and challenged whitebeard liek ace, for usre mr 1 had CoA even back then

      • ~7OPofD.w0rld - September 16, 2017 at 10:26 am #

        Mr 1 and the other agents weren’t part of Crocodiles original crew, they first met him in Alabasta, where they found out that he was a Shichibukai and learned what would happen to them if they oppose him, when he “dried” mr 3, besides Oda admitted that he introduced Crocodile to soon..

    • Amashi - September 16, 2017 at 9:30 am #

      you should realise by now Oda’s post timeskip fights havent been like pre time skip. It’s all based on different abilities, people having advantage over one another and all that sort of stuff. More strategical than an all out brawl, though I prefer an all out brawl like luffy vs Z.

      Also I believe luffy vs Kata will be another sort of weakness or taking advantage of df ability type of battle. I think luffy might awaken his df, and it’ll go from there.

      Plus remember in Oda’s new intervew he said because of too many characters he cant make fights long anymore so I believe Luffy vs Kata might just be like 2 chapters.

      • antarus - September 16, 2017 at 11:02 am #

        yeah but based on that even luffy’s fight with kaidou will be that short.

        • Amashi - September 16, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

          Hopefully not, I hope he just meant any non luffy battle. So battles like Neko and Inu vs jack is like 1 chapter, Kidd vs Apoo, Law vs Xdrake and stuff like that are one chapter.

      • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 3:54 pm #

        Oda is more concerned with the story now. Preskip he would write entire chapters of characters just using techniques back and forth. It was more like Bleach at times. Now he focuses more on plot points happening and leaves most of the fighting to our imagination.

        Also Luffy vs Cracker was only about 2 chapters total page count, if not less. Oda just spliced the fight in with other stuff going on and offscreened most of it for “11 hours”. Same thing is likely to happen, the cake is supposed to take hours to bake and then they have to also take the cake to BM which takes hours to sail.

        • Amashi - September 17, 2017 at 5:38 am #

          yeh shame, luffy vs kata might just beginning this chap and end by the end of next chap. If Oda loves his numbers and he really has shortened fights and increased pacing he could end this arc by 880 and reverie can start at 881 and wano can start 885.

  11. antarus - September 16, 2017 at 9:11 am #

    yonkous vs rookies wins:

    WB: ace, crocodile

    blackbeard: ace

    bm: capone, urouge, kid, luffy, killer

    kaidou: kid, apoo, Hawkins, killer

    shanks: erm…. nothing

  12. Hikikomori - September 16, 2017 at 9:38 am #

    It’s my new theory

    Luffy will be beaten by Katakuri. Katakuri asks Luffy to be his pupil, he wants to help him mastering Gomu Gomu. Luffy wondering why. And then Katakuri reveals that he’s actually a Dragon’s admirer, the #1 fan, then makes the same kinda expression like Barto did when he met Luffy and Zoro.

    Then he reveals his name

    CHARLOTTE D. OGTOOTH

    • Hikikomori - September 16, 2017 at 9:42 am #

      But it turns out the name just a fake, made by Katakuri himself to mimic Dragon.

      • Persona - September 16, 2017 at 11:48 am #

        Hahah

  13. Hikikomori - September 16, 2017 at 9:44 am #

    Luffy will learn lot of techniques from Katakuri because they share similar fruit.

    • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 3:43 pm #

      Most likely yeah, many of us have been expecting this.

  14. kom5 - September 16, 2017 at 10:14 am #

    For all those admirals weebos and wackos in chapter 579 where coby tries to stop akainu ome can clearly see that the squad leaders are also fighting against marines other than akainu

    • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 3:42 pm #

      Is this post from 8 years ago?

  15. Komori Ningen - September 16, 2017 at 10:19 am #

    Oda is trapping us
    Now Luffy getting beat up would mean his death
    Karakuri getting beat up would make the Big Mom pirates unthreatening
    So whatever Oda chooses, there’s a problem
    Luffy couldn’t defeat Cracker, he needed to run away and help from Nami
    Katakuri is the strongest member of big mom’s pirates
    So he’s probably admiral/Marco level
    Luffy normally would not be able to beat him

    • asme - September 16, 2017 at 11:28 am #

      GEAR 5 is the answer

    • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 3:40 pm #

      It doesn’t make the Big Mom Pirates unthreatening, it makes them weaker, which they have to be in order for the Strawhats to defeat them on Elbaf. Oda has been intentionally weakening them all arc long for that reason. Big Mom losing more than half of her “Monster level” fighters right now will allow the Strawhats to match up properly in the future.

      Cracker was weaker than Luffy, he just hid behind his Biscuits exactly how Pica hid behind his stone. Once guys like that actually charge in and try to fight they get 1-shot. Those aren’t fights to judge strength on they are hide and seek games. Katakuri can actually fight so this will be an actual fight and a real representation of Luffy’s current strength. No interference, no nonsense, just 2 “Yonko First Mate” level fighters going 1v1.

      • Goldroger - September 16, 2017 at 5:39 pm #

        I dont agree bout cracker play hide and seek.yes Pica was literally hide and run everywhere,become “invisible” and the opponent need to find and chase him all the time. while cracker sporadically charging directly toward luffy, he is around and visible all the time,thanks to nami the fight can goes for 11 hours or else luffy will be fucked up.manga said it was luffy who play hide and run and eat all the time against cracker.

        • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 6:19 pm #

          I never said cracker was invisible, I said he was hiding behind his Biscuits. He landed 1 cut with a surprised attack and that was it. He clearly was shown than he couldn’t hit Luffy, so he stood back and let his Biscuits do the fighting. And when you have a powerful DF that allows you to basically do nothing while your opponent has to actually fight nonstop, then obviously your opponent is going to get tired faster. But that’s a DF advantage, not actual strength.

          If Cracker was actually stronger how could he be unable to kill Luffy in 11 hours? That’s absurd, that’s more time than all of the villains Luffy has ever fought combined. Especially when we know Luffy gets exhausted immediately after using G4, even to throw 1 punch. He should have been wide open and unable to run away, let alone even move. Which means Cracker was still unable to kill Luffy EVEN IN THAT STATE. Just like Doflamingo was unable to kill Luffy even at the end of the fight when Luffy was exhausted and Doflamingo used his strongest attacks. These guys couldn’t even kill Luffy in base while he was weakened.

          If Luffy was only able to continue because of eating the biscuits then why didn’t Cracker simply stop making Biscuits? What kind of moron continues to feed his enemy if infact his enemy would simply die otherwise? Do you realize how stupid Cracker has to be to do that? There’s no way Cracker is that stupid, he’s a commander, he’s got to have at least some common sense. Which means there was more to there fight that lasted 11 hours and was 99.99999% offscreen.

          If Luffy’s survival was only because of running away and Nami creating water then just blitz Nami the moment Luffy runs away and kill her. It’s not rocket science. She can’t run away from him, actually even 1 single Biscuit soldier could EASILY kill Nami and ALL of the homies helping her. Which means Luffy also had to be protecting Nami during the 11 hours.

          The only way Cracker is unable to do any of this stuff is if he simply lacks the power to do. He has an amazing Devil Fruit that has a huge advantage over a purely physical fighter like Luffy. Just like Pica’s DF allowed him to do with stone and avoid a physical fighter like Zoro. That kind of advantage simply allowed Cracker to survive a stronger opponent.

          Nami was a double edged sword. We didn’t see the 11 hours so we don’t know what happened, but at least for some of the time it was her water that gave Luffy some extra time he needed to figure out how to use G4 power to overpower Crackers biscuits himself. However if Nami was never there in the first place then Luffy simply would have used King Kong and destroyed all of the biscuits and Cracker at once. After all Cracker could not even block a normal Kong Gun. But Luffy couldn’t use something like King Kong with Nami in the area.

          The fact is that some DF’s simply give advantages over other DF’s and allow weaker enemies to buy time. That doesn’t mean they are stronger. Katakuri has the highest bounty and all of us fans have said up to this point that he’s the strongest commander. And he doesn’t have some DF to hide behind, he can actually fight, that’s real strength. So now that we are already seeing Luffy fight him in just G2/3 and we are about to see Luffy take him down 1v1, that’s clearly going to back up everything I’m saying.

          …And I don’t want to see people backtracking and saying Bullshit about Katakuri is not actually the strongest sweet commander…

        • Goldroger - September 16, 2017 at 7:39 pm #

          he can’t hurt luffy bcause 1. nami’s power is His natural enemy and she was there.water make his power literally useless in defence and attack,imagine if you always fighting the way you used to but then suddenly need to make change,just like enel being total useless again luffy then start avaoiding him.2.even with disadvantage,cracker not retrear,instead manga stated that luffy run for 11 hours.akainu, sengoku, magellan all those Guys fail to catch luffy eventho luffy right before their eyes.cracker is same but more worse.they are fighting in a wood,more specific seducing woods where all the thing on the same boat with luffy.

          Yes Cracker can’t hurt luffy (bcause he run all day long but he once almost chopped luffy’s g4 hands ) but luffy can’t hurt cracker either for 11 hours (EVEN with help of magical water of nami and whole hommies).cracker cant hurt nami bcause luffy will take advantage of the distraction.and he cant focus on luffy bcause he run and nami keep bugging him.it’s a very disadvantage situation.oda already emphasized that cracker hate pain,that’s why he made his armour.

          Again not with king kong gun thing again.luffy know what the best and fit for him,if he wants nami get away he just order nami to get away just like he always being selfish all the time and everybody always listen him.cracker is dodging and fast type this guy can match gear 4 speed while doffy being ragdolls .king kong gun has great impact but it lowering the speed of normal g4.using it will be useless against fast enemy like cracker since he would be dodge it the way doffy dodge elephant gun(doffy is far slower than cracker) iirc in anime,they made luffy using king kong gun against cracker but fail.

          pica is different,he keeps running from zoro,zoro realised that and ask him why he keep run and bully the weak,even said pica didnt deserve facing his captain,he is total joke,even give him high pitched voice for comedy.the moment pica appear before zoro eyes,he’s down.

          It’s a yonko commander .they are not pica,pica is hide and run while YC are not hiding.we cant blame and call sasori a weak/coward/hide and seek for using pupets simultaneously bcause it’s his style and and story tell the reason why he use that style.cracker exactly same with sasori as puppet master

        • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 8:13 pm #

          Nami’s power has nothing to do with Cracker being unable to hurt Luffy because the Biscuit soldiers could never cut Luffy, only Cracker himself could cut Luffy. The Biscuit Soldiers could block basic G2/3 and throw Luffy around, but their swords never pierced Luffy’s haki. Oda even showed close ups of this. Just too weak. And water has absolutely no effect on Cracker himself using his Preztel Sword. He simply was too weak to defeat Luffy no matter what happened.

          Saying that he couldn’t attack Nami because it would be a distraction is complete BS. He could make a whole legion of Biscuit soldiers to attack, so he could easily send just 1 to take out Nami at any point unless Luffy protected her.

          lol, anime. They also made Hodi jones fight on par with Luffy. Don’t let that nonsense confuse you. Luffy never used King Kong Gun.

          Sasori was a complete boss, he could fight at all ranges and had a plethora of different fighting styles. If someone destroys a puppet he just breaks something else out and keeps fighting. Cracker hides behind Biscuits and is helpless otherwise.

        • Goldroger - September 17, 2017 at 2:53 am #

          Sasori and cracker are totally same .the different is oda and kishimoto’s deliver style.like komori said,it’s part of his style,to think you can turn mere biscuit to a steel like material to cover the weakness is a freakin boss.it’s like saying zoro nothing without the sword.and luffy nothing without his haki against logia.and it’s like we blaming a logia for ‘hiding’in their intangiable form instead tryin to master coa.
          your are being bias again for water has nothing to do with cracker power while his main ability is totally rendered useless against water.in fact that was cracker first or few fight that he need to reveal himself bcause his armor getting destroyed.biscuit cracker cant hurt G4 but g3 and g2 are useless against them.the thing that you dont realize is luffy not always activated G4 and he mostly back to normal mode while cracker biscuit can even kill him easily,that’s why luffy run and keeps running

          It was gangbanged,hommies nami and g4 luffy fight so let’s switch the situation.do you think luffy alone could win if cracker get help from Peros or another minister too?luffy and nami cant even take one of ministers when enraging army attack.that’s a glimpse how hard fight against numbers.

      • Komori Ningen - September 16, 2017 at 5:51 pm #

        @Gomogomono
        You are delusional
        If you compare Pica to Cracker, your logic is simply biased
        Do you remember that Pica never dealt any kind of damage whatsoever to Zoro ?
        Cracker owned Luffy right left and center, Luffy had to get helped to defeat him
        Luffy was the one doing the hiding and running, how on earth could you call Cracker weak if he could fight on part with Poundman ?
        Even Doffy couldn’t and yes, he fights like that mannequin fighter from the sand village from Naruto but it’s his fighting style
        It’s like you saying that zoro is weak but the only thing that makes him strong is his swords
        Which kind of logic is that ?

  16. antarus - September 16, 2017 at 1:11 pm #

    Garp is the biggest proof that admirals=yonkous.

    he was roger’s equal yet he was vice admiral. would be admiral but refused promotion

    • antarus - September 16, 2017 at 1:13 pm #

      oda also said that if akainu would be main character OP would end in 1 year.

      so he confirmed that akainu can beat all yonkous.

      also carmel said bm would become admiral or fa

      • Goldroger - September 16, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

        Yo,are you drunk or something ?
        Akainu can beat all yonko?
        He can’t even put old sick wb to the floor for once,instead getting smacked hard to the bottomless pit.

    • Controlminds- no mi - September 16, 2017 at 2:57 pm #

      Lol they dont call him Garp THE HERO for nothing.
      Plus oda was talking about df’s when he said that about akainu iirc. If luffy had akainus fruit he would become pk in 1 year. But either way you shouldnt pay attention to that because oda says alot of stuff about his own manga that is confusing.
      I mean from what we saw akainu could not even defeat an old sick yonkou let alone one in his/ her prime..

      • antarus - September 16, 2017 at 3:13 pm #

        we wasn’t talking about dfs, don’t pull that out of your as lol

        he was talking about person, not what he can do or whatever

        • Controlminds- no mi - September 16, 2017 at 3:20 pm #

          I literally stated IIRC. SMH

        • Goldroger - September 16, 2017 at 5:48 pm #

          Oda was talking if luffy were akainu.or if he has has akainu current power he can be a PK within a year.dont be idiot for swallow it raw.main protagonist granted with huge luck and heaven support(fuckin plot armor).add the tremendous power and he can get whatever he wants.if you think bout it,it took 2.5 years for weak ass 17 old year boy luffy to become a PK.whitebeard can be a pk in 1 day if he wants but he turn down roger’s offer bcause he hasnt interesting at all.

      • antarus - September 16, 2017 at 3:14 pm #

        but he defeated him. unless you think wb would live very happy with half a head and a huge hole in him and lava all over his organs

        ”..it was nothing”

        • Controlminds- no mi - September 16, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

          Alainu defeated wb yet he was the one cursing wb name cause he couldnt do anything else.. lol
          He couldnt even stop wb from destroying the MHQ so wtf?

        • antarus - September 16, 2017 at 3:26 pm #

          mhq is just a fuckin building, fuc it, they can build another one.

          wb was plot moving with half a head to dragonball level of bullsht

    • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 3:33 pm #

      Oda just meant that Akainu is too strong, experienced, and knowledgeable to the protagonist of this story. He’s also the freakin Fleet Admiral and has the whole damn marines at his disposal. Luffy is a teenager and has to struggle to gain all of those things throughout his journey.

      In reality Akainu is not a pirate so he wouldn’t even want OP, and if you change that or gave him a pirate crew instead of the marines then you’d be changing his character so he wouldn’t even be Akainu anymore. So the comment just doesn’t make sense to be taken literally, which is why it’s obvious Oda was just being tongue and cheek with the becoming Pirate King thing.

      Not to mention we now know that obviously it would be impossible for someone so evil to become Pirate King because Minks would never trust him to give him the Road Poneglyph they have.

    • Goldroger - September 16, 2017 at 7:57 pm #

      If garp=roger then why garp fail to stop him from being pk?Roger is unstoppable.garp said that.garp also said marine CAN’T handle wb and rayleigh at same time.
      It’s like if eos akainu or blackbeard>luffy,they will stop luffy from being pk.the only one that equal to roger was WB,bcause wb didnt give two fuck about being PK

  17. Big dick johnson - September 16, 2017 at 1:36 pm #

    So you guys think we are going to see 2 new shibukai?

    • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 3:21 pm #

      I think we’ll see no new shichibukai, they’ll be disbanded at the Reverie. Remember what Fujitora said about bringing it up as a suggestion. And after that’s happen in the history of shichibukai…

      – Blackbeard used and betrayed them
      – Jinbe betrayed and now has joined Luffy
      – Crocodile was doing his dirt and also fought them
      – Moriah is trash
      – Doflamingo’s been exposed for all his dirt
      – Weevil is doing nothing but constant massacre
      – Kuma was a double agent and PX-0 is not as strong
      – Buggy is more useless than empty space
      – Mihawk trained Zoro and refused to fight Shanks
      – Hancock loves Luffy and protected his location for the 2 years
      – Law has allied with Luffy

      …literally not a single warlord on record has been a good thing for the WG. There is no way they keep the warlords.

  18. antarus - September 16, 2017 at 3:28 pm #

    wb sneak atatcked akainu and akainu still left him wit half a egg and managed to rise from his attack and not have any lasting damage.

    fukin wb0s sneak attack.

    yet people derpsay yonkous>admirals.

    • ~7OPofD.w0rld - September 16, 2017 at 4:09 pm #

      You base this on animation, don’t you -.-?

      Akainu is definitely strong but I’ll never acknowledge him as above WB

      Sneak attacked? Then WTF was that shit about using Sqardo to stab WB? Fair play from the almighty admiral, ain’t that right?

      • antarus - September 16, 2017 at 4:17 pm #

        never said he is fair play.

        but wb’s sneak attack did almost nothing on akainu, yet akainu’s sneak attack did everything on him.

        same with aokiji and jozu. his sneak attack made aokiji lip bleed

        aokiji’s sneak attack defeated jozu and he shanks’d him

        • Controlminds- no mi - September 16, 2017 at 6:11 pm #

          Smfh…

      • Goldroger - September 16, 2017 at 7:51 pm #

        Wb is strongest man in the world.none stronger than him.why need to argue a manga fact.

    • Komori Ningen - September 16, 2017 at 6:08 pm #

      @antarus
      Firstly you fail to understand that whitebeard was sick from the start
      Squado didn’t help with stabbing him though his chest
      The fact that in that condition he fought against hundreds of marines including Aokigi before facing Akainu was not helping as well

      Now Akainu was on top physical condition, yet he managed to inflict damage only when whitebeard condition kicked in

      You really have to be blind to think that Akainu was as strong as that old man, look at how a dying Wb beat his ass (sneak attack hey)

      Akainu was sent underground and only came back way later all blooded and stuff

      Magma on itself burns, so him wiping half of whitebeard face was impressive but the dying old man was in a blind rage so I doubt he was trying to protect himself

  19. Komori Ningen - September 16, 2017 at 6:15 pm #

    People say that the BM pirates are weaklings
    But only a few of the Charlottes family got actually defeated
    Only Cracker, Brulee and that cream guy got beaten by a strawhat
    The rest has been putting on work and none of them has gotten defeated

  20. GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 6:32 pm #

    Prediction: Mihawk is going to join Blackbeard.

    This is assuming the Shichibukai are actually disbanded at the Reverie, the the warlords will need to join one of the super powers of the New World. Otherwise they wouldn’t have become a warlord to begin with and after disbanding the shichibukai’s contracts then Akainu is probably going to have the arrested right away. Not even they’re home islands wont be safe anymore unless they become part of a Yonko territory.

    Mihawks first option would ofcourse be Shanks, but it’s already been foreshadowed that Shanks will fight Blackbeard, who is likely Luffy’s final opponent and main opponent for getting to One Piece. Shanks is likely to die, and Mihawk will join Blackbeard telling him that he’s impressed by his strength to kill Shanks. Although in reality it will just be because he knows Teach will fight Luffy eventually and Zoro will be with him.

    …the other warlords likewise will join either one of the remaining Yonko, Luffy, or Dragon…

    • Komori Ningen - September 16, 2017 at 7:02 pm #

      Wow
      Don’t you know that Shanks and Mihawk are friends/rivals
      And you have not understand Mihawk’s character at all
      He’s a loner who does whatever he wants
      He’s not the kind to join anybody, he doesn’t even have a crew for crying out loud
      And if your reasoning behind him joining the BB pirates was for his fight with Zoro
      The whole hype of the fight died when he became his mentor

    • Goldroger - September 16, 2017 at 7:48 pm #

      I would love to see him be part of luffy’s alliance or grand fleet along with hancock and marco.bcause he’s a good guy.aokiji’s siding with bb with hidden agenda.

      • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 8:20 pm #

        I doubt Mihawk would join Luffy, he trained Zoro because he wants to fight him. He can’t do that as an ally.

        Also I’m not sure that he’s actually a good guy, I feel like Mihawk is more neutral. He has respect for strong pirates and his personal rivals like Shanks, but I don’t think Mihawks actually does anything good. At least I can’t recall anything being said about him being a good guy.

        He is a pirate and to have even gotten an offer from the World Government to become a shichibukai in the first place he would have needed to do some stuff to get their attention, right? Like how does he get his food and supplies? …he probably steals them. Mihawk is still a pirate after all.

        • Goldroger - September 17, 2017 at 3:06 am #

          Yeah i agree but imo He was sparing the baboons life and let them live there so clearly he a good guy lol.and i think no chance for kuma,his shine is over

      • GomoGomoNo - September 16, 2017 at 8:23 pm #

        I just thought about Kuma too, I really hope that Vegapunk can restore Kuma somehow and we can see him return to the Revolutionaries.

  21. Leptor - September 17, 2017 at 5:02 am #

    Garp refusing a promotion to the rank of Admiral doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s not above Admiral level, the rank of Admiral is the rank above Vice Admiral, so naturally it would be the rank that he would be offered before Fleet Admiral. Sort of like how Pre Time Skip Smoker’s character is obviously significantly superior to Commodore level and yet that was the promotion that he was offered after the rank of Captain.

    None of the Admirals have yet done anything as impressive as Garp’s character has done. So in my opinion Garp is at least Fleet Admiral level if not superior.

  22. Leptor - September 17, 2017 at 5:02 am #

    An above average chapter for Magi.

    The chapter is mostly more of the same but there is some more plot development with more protagonists joining the team including Morgiana’s character which I’m excited about. Plus the illustrations are amazing.

    I give this chapter a 4.4/10 (rounding to 4/10).

  23. Grogiii - September 17, 2017 at 7:03 am #

    Wheres the new section?

  24. antarus - September 17, 2017 at 10:33 am #

    In terms of new nakama, besides the derplogia for nakama thing, the crw lacks a bug zoan, or a turtle , something water related maybe too.

  25. Big dick johnson - September 17, 2017 at 1:34 pm #

    I have a feeling luffy is going to ask Marco to join his crew. Wheather or not marco says yes. That is a different story