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One Piece 889 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第889話

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One Piece 889 Spoiler: The last Chapter end with Luffy is down due to Katakuri’s just one attack right before he releases Rhino Schneider second time.…!!! So what happens next..? find out story on One Piece 888 Spoiler Discussion 「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第889話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoiler or prediction, please leave a comment below.

ONE PIECE 889 SPOILER SUMMARIES

Source: 2ch
Trans: remembz on reddit

ONEPIECE 889 Chapter Title: Unknown Mama

An angry Daifuku calls a genie and it attacks Carrot.
Carrot quickly dodges it.
On the contrary, fleets that get caught in the genie attack are half destroyed.
According to Jinbe, the Mink tribe get their wildness awaken by looking at full moon and become violent.
But if they can’t control it well, they’ll fight overnight and exhaust themselves.
Brooke hears it, runs on the sea by himself heading towards Daifuku’s fleets to help Carrott.
It’s been 8 hours since Big Mom’s outburst, something abnormal has happened to her body.
Big Mom gets thinner little by little.
Following Big Mom’s order, Napoleon calls back Prometheus and Zeus.
Sanji and Bege fight like cats and dogs on Bege’s ship.
Bege insists that since the cake is for Big Mom they should put poison and bombs in it.
Sanji doesn’t like his own cooking getting intervened so he let Bege taste the cream on the cake.
Being wrapped in happiness, Bege faints.
Daifuku’s fleets become unsteerable due to the battle between the genie and Carrot.
Fighting under Sulong form too long, .
Brooke asks her how to get back to her original form her response is covering her eyes.
Zeus and Prometheus joins Big Mom.
Prometheus stays on Big Mom’s hair.
Holding the sword Napoleon on one hand, hair-burning Big Mom jumps to Zeus and raids the Sunny.
Everybody is stunned.
“Be ready to discard the ship!” shouts Jinbe.

Chapter End

1,644 Responses to “One Piece 889 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第889話”

  1. Kouhei - January 10, 2018 at 7:50 pm #

    I think most of the fans are convinced that Shanks vs Teach will happen eventually. But what about Shanks vs Akainu?

    • Bob - January 10, 2018 at 8:05 pm #

      not really a need for that, if anything it would be dragon vs akainu or sabo vs akainu

    • GomoGomoNo - January 10, 2018 at 8:17 pm #

      There’s no real reason Shanks and Akainu would fight currently and I don’t expect Shanks to be around by the time the war comes.

      Sabo vs Akainu makes the most sense.

      • antarus - January 10, 2018 at 10:06 pm #

        akainu was here ever since robin’s flashback

        sabo got flashback introduced in sabaody

        even removing flashbacks

        akainuj introduced in marineford while sabo ace clone barely in dressrosa

        why would oda introduce the match of sabo way longer then him.

        its like the story would start with blackbeard and luffyu gets introduced later on after him

        • GomoGomoNo - January 10, 2018 at 11:55 pm #

          A characters introduction date has nothing to do with a future opponent, I have no clue why you would even think that. Whatever the plot dictates the matchup’s will be is what happens.

          Akainu killed Ace and Oda went out of his way to give Sabo the same reaction that Luffy had. The fact that Sabo wasn’t actually there in person is irrelevant, what matters is the visual parallel Oda used showing Sabo cares just as much as Luffy. Then he had Luffy say that he had to get Ace’s devil fruit because Luffy believe that it carries Ace’s will. But Sabo ended up eating it(with Luffy’s permission), meaning Sabo is the one now carrying Ace’s will, for both him and Luffy.

          Plot wise Luffy will not fight Akainu because he is not in the path of his journey. Luffy’s goal is the Pirate King, and thus he has to take down the Yonko. The Revolutionaries goal is to overthrow the WG, and thus they have to take down the Admirals. And while other Admirals go out in the field the Fleet Admiral does not. Meaning Akainu is not fighting unless someone attacks the WG directly. Leaving the only reason Luffy would care at all about Akainu is because he killed Ace. However just like Luffy allowed Sabo to take Ace’s DF, he will also allow Sabo to avenge Ace for the both of them.

          And as for the matchup in specific, Oda will once again pit Fire against the superior Lava. When asked about superiority Oda stated in an SBS that just because a DF is superior does not mean they will win. He will show this with this fight, as Sabo was already a haki master and high tier fighter before even getting the Mera. And it will be sweet poetic justice when Sabo defeats the man who killed Ace, using Ace’s Mera power to overcome the superior element.

        • paiseha - January 11, 2018 at 1:54 am #

          GomoGomoNo always make sense, thumbs up

        • goldroger - January 11, 2018 at 8:21 am #

          “The Revolutionaries goal is to overthrow the WG, and thus they have to take down the Admirals”
          admirals dealing with pirates and sea while cp are meant to be revo’s opposite.that’s why there are 4 admirals and 7 shichi to counter yonko.that’s wg sent cp 0 to deal with baltigo’s incident.sabo said he hold no grudge and already move on about what happen with ace.
          also akainu not just fighting around the pirates.he might be the last ppl in marine who need to fight bcose now he works behind the table

        • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 11:21 am #

          this is op, things get foreshadowed, not naruto where yo ucan pull final villain out of your as at the end.

          that is how good story works

        • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 11:23 am #

          how can you say akainu is not on luffy0s way to become pk

          guess what marines are, justice on seas, where criminals are pirates, not revos.

          and aikanu litteraly doesn’t allow fujitora to return until he captures luffy.

          you even read OP bro?

        • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 2:16 pm #

          blackbeard didn’t come out of nowhere, he was actually introduced long before akainu was. drum kingdom, he invaded the kingdom and drove wapol out, alabasta, ace said he was looking for him, mocktown, luffy meets up with him and he then tries to follow luffy, after enies lobby he finds ace, fights him and captures him, becomes a warlord, impel down he infiltrates and liberates a bunch of level 6 prisoners to add to his crew, marineford he shows up, his crew finishes off whitebeard, he steals his devil fruit, then causes a scene that only shanks can stop.

          post time skip he’s revealed to be one of the four emperors, he’s hunting devil fruits, he sends burgess to get the flame flame fruit, attacks the revolutionary base, then it’s revealed that he attacked whitebeard pirates remnants and that it was a one-sided stomp, and that aokiji has joined his ranks.

          he was also foreshadowed as the final villain all the way back on jaya when he said that the dreams of pirates are still alive, that sky island exists, and him and luffy walked their separate ways.

          akainu was present for like one arc where he took down fodder and got stomped by a dying old man, then fought aokiji for 10 days and became fleet admiral. nowhere near the story presence that blackbeard has had

          the reason akainu isn’t in luffy’s way to become pirate king is because he doesn’t have a road poneglyph nor is he in charge of any sea in the new world. The previous pirate king didn’t defeat the fleet admiral

        • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 4:00 pm #

          never mentioned if roger had any fights with the FA, but his biggest rival was vice admiral garp

        • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 4:03 pm #

          there are many ways akainu can be in luffy’s way

          we don’t know the location of final poneglyph but it could be in WG hands of the secret treasure of CDs.

          marines hunt all the time pirates, even CP, so they are in their way fighting , look at robin’s story, and if they capture one of luffy0’s mates he will have to rescue them

          same wayfujitora is right now hunting luffy so he is in his way if they meet again and can only advance if luffy beats him

        • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 5:53 pm #

          “never mentioned if roger had any fights with the FA, but his biggest rival was vice admiral garp”

          sengoku is still alive, and so is kong, so no. in any case, if gol d. roger beat the fleet admiral and fought on par with whitebeard, that’s more evidence that emperor is above even fleet admiral level.

          “we don’t know the location of final poneglyph but it could be in WG hands of the secret treasure of CDs.”

          not likely, or the emperors would show more interest in the world government. instead, none of them care. the poneglyphs are likely all in the new world.

          “marines hunt all the time pirates, even CP, so they are in their way fighting , look at robin’s story, and if they capture one of luffy0’s mates he will have to rescue them

          same wayfujitora is right now hunting luffy so he is in his way if they meet again and can only advance if luffy beats him”

          garp cornered roger multiple times and yet they never beat each other. fujitora was hunting luffy and he advanced by…escaping, as pirates usually do from the marines. I’m not saying they won’t fight the marines again, I’m sure they will. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if luffy fought green bull somewhat soon in the series. But they aren’t important enough to Luffy’s goal to warrant having one of them as the final opponent. pre-time skip they had a much greater presence, but post time skip they’re in the new world which is governed by the four emperors and most of them are seeking the one piece. the world government is powerless there, they can infiltrate their ranks with spies but they can’t send any forces to destroy them.

    • Tipdrill - January 10, 2018 at 9:01 pm #

      We all know Akainu will fight just about anyone. So if Shanks is there most fmdeff.

    • nickname - January 10, 2018 at 9:24 pm #

      I don’t really see a way for those two to meet, Shanks isn’t the kind of pirate to flat out attack Mari Joa or marine HQ and Sakazuki is fleet admiral now, he doesn’t go around fighting pirates anymore.

      imo we’ll have to wait until Luffy decides to go against the WG/marines and fights Akainu there until we see him in action again.

    • antarus - January 10, 2018 at 9:59 pm #

      i would like to see shanks vs akainu or BB vs akainu.

      but sadly that will never happen

      instead we get rubberboy or ace clone sabo fights. fuc them

      akainu was way longer in the story yhen sabo

      • Bob - January 10, 2018 at 10:05 pm #

        well shanks vs akainu would be a stomp, akainu would be beaten way too quickly

        • antarus - January 10, 2018 at 10:09 pm #

          seaking says shanks is weak while eating his ….

        • Bob - January 10, 2018 at 10:25 pm #

          you mean the sea king that ran away from him

          shanks says akainu is weak as “absolute justice” stares in shock having his attack stopped and instantly backs off without a second thought

        • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

          ran away vs eat his paw

          who wins?

        • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 4:06 pm #

          shanks was fresh, akainu had the full wb pirates to take care of. if he would also give ablanced fight to shanks then he would be by far stronger then everyone else.

          also akainu didn0t back of, he stands there, sengoku decided to make deal with shanks.

          what should akianu do, counter his superior?

        • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 5:58 pm #

          shanks won the fight against the sea king by glaring at it. luffy at the beginning of the series one-shot it, so the notion that shanks is weaker than the sea king is laughable.

          no whitebeard pirates were attacking akainu at that time, shanks blocked his attack and that’s it. he was defeated by a dying emperor like 20 minutes before, there was no way he was going to take on another emperor who wasn’t old yet even if he lost an arm.

          “what should akianu do, counter his superior?”

          he’s done this countless times. against higher orders he’s acted in favor of “absolute justice” like destroying an escape ship at ohara, sengoku wouldn’t have wanted him to kill coby or other marines either.

        • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 6:03 pm #

          sengoku could just strip him of his admiral rank and he would go back cleaning marine toilets if he would oppose sengoku

        • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 6:32 pm #

          yeah, sengoku could do that because if akainu fought back sengoku would probably kill him. otherwise, he doesn’t get rid of an already distrusted pirate threatening to kill him, so realistically he’s not going to get rid of one of their great powers because he disobeyed orders. remember that sengoku didn’t even want akainu to be fleet admiral, clearly he never liked him much to begin with

        • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 6:55 pm #

          akainu is not stvpid, going after coby is nothing because he is small fry marine. sengoku could turn all marines agains’t akainu and he would be the loser nomatter what and sned for treason and become wanted.

          i do think akainu was stromger then both senogku and garp.

        • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 7:18 pm #

          well, doflamingo threatened to kill sengoku and sengoku did nothing about it, so akainu can consistently disobey orders (as he has done) and he probably wouldn’t get kicked out. He doesn’t follow orders, he follows “absolute justice)

          old garp would’ve killed akainu if sengoku hadn’t restrained him, so no, akainu wasn’t stronger, and he definitely wasn’t stronger than garp in his prime.

        • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 7:50 pm #

          doifla did it with sengoku?

          i only remeber him doing it with cp0 guy

        • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 8:05 pm #

          yes he threatened sengoku as well when he was first introduced

    • Nidai Kitetsu - January 11, 2018 at 2:47 am #

      I’ve actually predicted this.

      With what we know about the Marines growing their strength, there’s obvious purpose to that, that will come to play later. Foreshadowed by a few instances since the Time Skip in background moments, like the bar keeper in Saboady mentioning that Marine HQ was moved to the New World or Law mentioning that the Marines were

      However we also know that Luffy will defeat 3 of the Yonko himself based on the foreshadowing in Punk Hazard.

      So for the Marines to show their new forces and highlight their progress and goal we need to see them take action against the remaining Yonko, with Big Mom, Kaido and BB defeated, will be Shanks and Luffy. So indeed a fight between Sakazuki and Shanks is something i can see happening as the Marines play out their goal of taking out the remaining pirates.

      I can also see that playing into the final war between Luffy and the Marines where Shanks (and Mihawk and Yasopp) play into the SHs objective in defeating the Marines.

      • Amashi - January 11, 2018 at 8:05 am #

        My friend and I were discussing theories and predictions last night and we came around the topic of Shanks getting killed by BB, and then it hit me that although I really hate this idea of shanks dying this one part or prediction or whatever you want to call it is plausible.

        So basically, Shanks either has the last Road Poneglyph or knows where it is, BB somehow finds out or already knows and attacks shanks to get the road poneglyph, winning against him and killing him, all of this happening after luffy defeats and gets Kaido’s road giving luffy 3 of them and BB having the last one.

        Now according to Oda we already know that at the final arc or final war Luffy is already crowned the PK, so now before final war, we get a war between Luffy and BB, basically a throne war or a war over the Roads and also revenge, during this battle BB is defeated, killed or whatever and the SHs get the last Road then they head to raftel and then Luffy is Pk then the final war or arc begins.

        • Nidai Kitetsu - January 11, 2018 at 1:09 pm #

          that’s the general consensus that most people have for what will happen.

          However for me that doesn’t explain the Marines, they can’t be idle through all of this, simple salad dressing at the end of each arc as they remain a step behind, as if Luffy can mess around so much without being putting in check. Also what about all this hinting about their capabilities, Oda clearly intends something with it.

          that’s why i think the Sakazuki vs Shanks thing will happen, there’s also the factor of Mihawk being involved as a result of the Shichibukai abolition, the Marines would want to get rid of 2 birds with 1 stone.

      • Kouhei - January 11, 2018 at 12:43 pm #

        I agree. Luffy is already facing BM and it’s a matter of time for him to face Kaido. BB, Shanks and Akainu can’t sit idly while the supernovas are shaking the New World.

        BB vs Revos and BB vs Marines / CP-0 is a solid proof of big names moving. The only one left to move is Shanks. His actions so far shows a bit of his personality. Shanks is calm, he likes to party and he only gets into action as a last resort. But he is keeping track of everything that’s happening, like he did when he visited WB to warn him about Ace and Teach.

        Shanks went to Marineford to end the war, to spare many lives. I think he will move again when Luffy confronts Kaido. It’ll be too late for Shanks to stop this fight. And knowing Akainu, he will seize this oportunity to take down the winner and to clean the mess. Another possibility, exactly in the same situation, is the BB going to Wano as many here already predicted. But BB already did his move recently. So, I think Akainu will go to Wano with at least one Admiral by his side, and Shanks will stop the marines. My prediction is it’ll be again an offscreened fight and Shanks will not die in this fight.

        If we have Luffy vs Kaido, Shanks vs Akainu and maybe Marco vs Weevil happening at the same time, it’ll be the most epic moment so far!

  2. nickname - January 10, 2018 at 9:31 pm #

    @tomo http://www.mangaspoiler.com/2017/12/20/one-piece-889-spoiler%e3%80%8c%e3%83%af%e3%83%b3%e3%83%94%e3%83%bc%e3%82%b9-%e3%83%8d%e3%82%bf%e3%83%90%e3%83%ac%e3%80%8d-%e7%ac%ac889%e8%a9%b1/comment-page-13/#comment-958284

    true, it could just be an other more or less unnecessary detail that took too many panels, not like we didn’t have that before.

    I just think BM’s empire falling is the only way for her to be driven out of Totland and head to Elbaf, where it was kinda forshadowed that she’ll play a part as well and give Luffy the rematch he wanted.

    Oda could also go an entirely different route though, who knows.

  3. antarus - January 10, 2018 at 9:49 pm #

    the 15 age thing is legit.

    and you can get married in japan at 16 years.

    also remeber oda defending toriko mangaka for having sexual with underaged girl

    • Cp3.14 - January 10, 2018 at 10:22 pm #

      Are you freaking seriously saying goes having sex with a 15 or 16 year old by an adult is “legit” and cool? Cause if so your a pedo and I hope to god of a doesn’t think the way you say he does cause that make him one too

      • Cp3.14 - January 10, 2018 at 10:23 pm #

        *Oda

      • Bob - January 10, 2018 at 10:27 pm #

        one piece takes place in the 1500s, when that type of thing was normal. kyros also married scarlet, kyros was like 25 and scarlet was like 16

      • antarus - January 10, 2018 at 10:32 pm #

        nope, if you talk about me, then i come from the zone where it’s WTF to amrry at 16

      • Wickbert - January 11, 2018 at 1:20 am #

        Up until 2006, the legal age of marriage in france was 15, the catholic church officials can marry girls as young as 14 it just wont be recognised by law and in a lot of European countries you can be married at any age with court consent.

        I’m not defending it I’m just saying that its more common in western society than one might expect.

      • goldroger - January 11, 2018 at 8:26 am #

        you need to see the context.one piece not occurs in this current age.just like others said,on the previous age,13 is legal.

        • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 11:23 am #

          still sick.

        • Goldroger - January 11, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

          For us who live on this age yes,but it’s normal for ppl at that time and it isnt not even sick.
          Time changing ppl and everything always change over time.
          Who know 100 years from now, the ppl will call us pedo and sick mofo for marryin 20 years old girl,bcause adult for them is over 25+

  4. antarus - January 10, 2018 at 10:12 pm #

    the only yonkou that is undefeated is BM.

    kaidou got defeated and captured many times

    wb defeated in marineford

    bb defeated by magellan

    shanks defeated by seaking and bb left scars on him

    bm undefeated. even roger only tricked her

    • antarus - January 10, 2018 at 10:12 pm #

      sanji gets to defeat with is cake the undefeated yonkou

      and he also beat up future PK luffy

    • Bob - January 10, 2018 at 10:56 pm #

      kaido and blackbeard were never defeated as emperors and shanks was never defeated period. whitebeard was never defeated in his prime

    • ~7OPofD.w0rld - January 10, 2018 at 11:41 pm #

      funny thing about Kaido, it was said he was defeated 7 times in his life as a pirate and then it was said if it’s a 1 on 1 you bet on Kaido witch could mean he was only defeated in a 1 vs many battles…then again at least 1 of those battles should be against Roger and 1 against WB, ..maybe prime Garp

      • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 12:44 am #

        it would be interesting if he lost to roger because that would be more foreshadowing of luffy fighting him. similarly big mom states that roger tricked her and left rather than beating her, which might foreshadow that luffy won’t fight her even in a future arc. but I don’t see luffy not taking her down when he promised that he would kick her ass all over the new world and claim fishman island as his own territory, so I think luffy will probably challenge big mom again on elbaf

    • GomoGomoNo - January 11, 2018 at 11:29 am #

      We don’t actually have complete details though, we don’t know if Big Mom lost any fights when she was younger. Nor do we know how and when Kaido’s fights happened. Maybe all in his young pirate days.

  5. antarus - January 10, 2018 at 10:13 pm #

    power levels:

    seaking> bb>shanks=buggy=mihawk>zoro

  6. devriz99 - January 11, 2018 at 1:29 am #

    Captain? A Chapter this week?

    • F234K - January 11, 2018 at 2:20 am #

      Yap

  7. F234K - January 11, 2018 at 2:19 am #

    The things will be much complicated and interesting if Luffy ended up eating the cake that Sanji made.

    • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 2:35 am #

      actually it would make sanji’s already pointless, retarded “redemption” and even more pointless and retarded

    • Tomodachi - January 11, 2018 at 5:45 am #

      This would be priceless. Especially the reactions that follow. But seeing how the cake is so delicious that it literally knocks people out, Luffy eating the cake is one of the worst things that could happen to them at the moment.

      • Persona - January 11, 2018 at 7:48 am #

        But it’s Luffy. He’ll be knocked out from the most delicious meat ever, but cake? He may not.

      • Oda on Hiatus - January 11, 2018 at 9:59 am #

        That would be so cool if Oda does the same thing with Luffy in the upcoming arcs … where he gets to eat the most delicious meat ever and gets a new DF Gear :)))

    • GomoGomoNo - January 11, 2018 at 11:26 am #

      I’m on board with this happening for sure, not necessarily the whole cake but at least some. It would totally be like Oda to do something ridiculous like having an eating contest with Big Mom with both of them eating the cake from opposing sides while releasing Conquerers haki with each bite, lol.

      I’m not certain though, because of Big Mom’s changing consciousness, which was just noted by Perospero that she is far more aware than normal in this state. I’m starting to be more convinced with the theory going around that while Big Mom’s body is weakening, her mind is becoming sharper. And this will eventually result in her memory coming back specifically because she does not eat the cake. Alternatively her mind will reach a point that it clears almost completely but it’s the cake that is so delicious it serves as a shock therapy which brings her memories back.

      • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 2:48 pm #

        perospero was saying the opposite, he was surprised big mom was still conscious at all when she was in this eating fit. in any case if luffy eats the cake I think big mom will end up starving to death

        • Jay - January 12, 2018 at 1:27 pm #

          Big Mom & Luffy both will eat the cake!

  8. Da ROCK - January 11, 2018 at 4:32 am #

    what happened to the site, no new thread?

    • Amashi - January 11, 2018 at 5:20 am #

      admin got lazy

    • Tomodachi - January 11, 2018 at 5:35 am #

      Admin is angry that people on this site didn’t click on that BTC mining link.

      • Da ROCK - January 11, 2018 at 8:50 am #

        Mangaspoiler X Hiatus

  9. Leptor - January 11, 2018 at 6:41 am #

    Pretty good chapter for Nanatsu No Taizai.

    The series’ power levels often don’t make a lot of sense. Lady Merlin is bad ass though. I like that the Mangaka is giving her character a lot superior portrayal compared to some previous Arcs. But I’m not sure why Lady Merlin doesn’t simply fix a lot of the situations that the protagonists are in. Lady Merlin does seem to like toying with other characters but her character can easily counter a lot of the antagonists. Awesome confrontations throughout the chapter.

    I give this chapter a 7/10.

  10. Leptor - January 11, 2018 at 6:42 am #

    @ burnhotspot.

    Nah. Lol

  11. The Brak - January 11, 2018 at 10:02 am #

    So do you predict Luffy will beat katakuri or fight will be interrupted again ?

    • The Brak - January 11, 2018 at 10:03 am #

      I personally think Luffy coming back to kata and whole fight with kata is to give luffy ability to predict future so he can use it in the future fights

      • The Brak - January 11, 2018 at 12:32 pm #

        Yeah I share same thoughts. The only thing that bothers me is the fact that Luffy never before beat 2 commanders or 2 top tier right hand man of main antagonists. He usually thought minor commander + boss. Now it seems he will fight minor commander and major commander, this is just not Oda style – but well everything is possible and you kinda convinced me he will beat him.

    • Oda on Hiatus - January 11, 2018 at 10:08 am #

      It sure has that purpose but Luffy will probably twist that ability to suit his fighting style. He isnt the defensive type anyway and Katakuri isnt a “bad guy” in One Piece terms even though he is Luffy’s antagonist this arc. I predict that the fight wont be concluded exactly, but they will fight each other till the last breath or so.

    • GomoGomoNo - January 11, 2018 at 11:08 am #

      The only reason Katakuri was so intent on fighting Luffy was because he sees his potential to one day challenge Big Mom. Think about all the crazy shit going on in the outside world(he’s also listening on a den den mushi), and yet Katakuri, who is by far the most intelligent of the Big Mom Pirates, has decided that his most important and only priority is killing Luffy. …and he already F’d up once.

      Like almost every really strong guy in this series who has defeated Luffy the first time, Katakuri did not kill Luffy when he had the chance to. Luffy recovered and then accidentally outsmarted Katakuri by grabbing Brulee and running out of the mirror world. It was over at that point, while Luffy lost the fight, he won the battle, because Katakuri was trapped inside. He could have simply held on to Brulee until they had escaped Totto Land.

      However Luffy went back because he understands the importance of top tier haki skills he will need. And according to Rayliegh he can only gain that by fighting stronger haki users. They literally are only fighting again because Luffy wants to Surpass Katakuri. And in Luffy’s own words that means defeating Katakuri at his strongest, not running or waiting for his haki to weaken. Meaning both of them have no intention of doing anything except defeating the other, and thus there is only one result possible: Luffy must win the fight.

    • Bipolar Bear - January 11, 2018 at 11:42 am #

      I think Luffy will see the end of the tunnel in this fight, how to win it, get into the position to finish it but it will be interrupted at the last second.

      I feel Katakuri has nothing to propose except is bounty and strenght. He is only usefull to be bitten by someone so you have a comparison reference of Luffy vs the world. For that reason it has to be bitten (easily?) by another main vilain to hype drastically the next part of the story.

      For example, if we have a future journal announcement about a random Blackbeard crewmates who beat Katakuri with an unkwown power, everybody in this forum will **** their pants and will talk about it in every future chapter. They will even dare to include it in the neverending Zorro’s strenght discussion.

    • The Brak - January 11, 2018 at 12:32 pm #

      Yeah I share same thoughts. The only thing that bothers me is the fact that Luffy never before beat 2 commanders or 2 top tier right hand man of main antagonists. He usually thought minor commander + boss. Now it seems he will fight minor commander and major commander, this is just not Oda style – but well everything is possible and you kinda convinced me he will beat him.

      • Goldroger - January 11, 2018 at 2:36 pm #

        2 commanders as redemption for not beat down bm And bcose nobody can beat the commander except him

  12. antarus - January 11, 2018 at 11:25 am #

    pre ts arcs mirror posts arcs

    marineford mirrors the final war, even oda made comparison between the two.

    impel down mirrors raftel.

    amazon lily or sabaody mirrors the final Island that all roads lead to

    • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 11:25 am #

      and thriller bark mirrors wano because of moria

    • GomoGomoNo - January 11, 2018 at 11:34 am #

      All Oda said about the final war was that it would be better than Marineford. He also just said the same thing about Wano.

      Although I do agree many arcs mirror one another.

  13. Itch-Ni-Sanji - January 11, 2018 at 2:18 pm #

    I hope there’s not more than 5 chapters left of WCI arc. Oda, plz stop dragging this for any longer…

    Luffy VS Katarina has to be decided, because next time SH crew will meet BM pirates (many assume at Elbaf) it’s Boss VS Boss and nothing else. No more fighting the ‘small fry’ (at the time they meet again, Luffy will be able to face BM – it still won’t be easy though)…

    • Itch-Ni-Sanji - January 11, 2018 at 2:21 pm #

      *Katakuri (damn auto correct)

      • Jay - January 12, 2018 at 7:14 pm #

        Nope. WCI arc won’t end in just next 5 chapter’s.

  14. Sane - January 11, 2018 at 4:03 pm #

    @Bob

    Yes i guess you could say that forms are techniques. But i think you know what i mean. I mean techniques used on the offensive.

    That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a new technique for him. It just means it’s a new technique for us viewers. My point is that most of these Straw Hats have stronger techniques “up their sleeves” which they haven’t showcased yet. G4 wasn’t a new technique, it was a technique “up his sleeve”.

    Yeah Katakuri is definitely strong because of his CoO. But my entire premise was about specific offensive techniques “up their sleeves”. Not about the overall strength of the characters.

    That argument was already refuted by clearly showing you Luffys showcase in FI. He did things like Elephant Gatling Gun and Red Hawk to showcase improvement, but used his strongest in Dressrosa. Yes i am comparing Luffy because it’s refuting your point about Fishman Islands purpose being to showcase their strongest, which it wasn’t. The point of the argument is that FI was indeed a place of showcasing strong techniques, but not necessarily showcasing the strongest techniques. Which Luffy clearly proved wrong even tho he was the one struggling the most in FI. He was underwater and was loosing blood, which is all the more reason to finish it quickly with g4 kong GUn. Just one Kong Gun would probably be enough. But thats not Odas style.

    You are blaming me for using Luffy and Zoro even though i gave you clear proof from the manga, that a member of the Straw Hats weak trio, has a stronger technique up her sleeve that she learned in the timeskip and still hasn’t used. And fyi, the term “weak trio” is from the manga:

    http://kissmanga.com/Manga/One-Piece/One-Piece—598?id=320034#13
    Usopp was bragging and saying “i’ve graduated from the weakling trio”.

    So if Nami, who is from the weakling trio has stronger techniques up her sleeve, that she learned during timeskip, then how much more so the stronger crewmembers? Especially a member of the moinster trio, Sanji. Which is also backed by the manga fyi:

    http://kissmanga.com/Manga/One-Piece/One-Piece—606?id=320048#5
    “The monster trio who fought with the kraken are all long gone!”

    Of course that would not makes sense and wouldn’t go with Odas way of doing things. Oda always potrays Luffy, Zoro and Sanji to be the main fighters of the crew. So it makes perfect sense that Sanji has stronger techniques that he has yet to use.

    kissmanga.com/Manga/One-Piece/One-Piece—833?id=320613#16
    You are incorrect in saying the flames don’t matter anymore, but you are correct in that the real strength is behind his brute force. The flames add additional burn damage. Judge did not block the attack, he infact deflected it with his anti-inflammatory cape. Then he grabbed the fire leg with his hand which surprised Sanji. Sanji was surprised because he was unharmed by the fire as you can see by his saying “Huh?!” after Judge grabbed the fire leg. And even if Judge wouldn’t have deflected the kick and would have taken it head on, it wouldn’t have been impressive. Because collier shot is one of Sanjis WEAKEST kicks. Sanji > Judge, preiod.

    Exactly, which goes to show that new techniques don’t need to be shown in fights that even might make the character tired and fatigued. Oda perserves strongest techniques usually to be exposed during prolonged and tough 1v1 fights.

    ———————————————————————

    I agree with you that mangapanda is crap translation. But i had no other website to use anymore after mangastreams archive website stopped working.

    But the good news is that while i was writing this reply i found another website to use. Which is kissmanga.com. I don’t know how legit Kissmangas translations are but thats all i have right now so lets look what it says:

    kissmanga.com/Manga/One-Piece/One-Piece—793?id=320524#5
    “To hear that that enormous power has joined with Blackbeard… that is truly a punch to the gut of the marines”.

    If this translation is legit then it seems to go with your interpretation. But that doesn’t change the fact that he refered to Kuzan as an “ENORMOUS power”. Which is no small matter. And as i said before, the strength in a yonko individually isn’t the thing that the goverment fears the most. It’s the entire network they control.

    Claiming Akainu is unfazed is an overstatement. Regarding the yonkos individual strength, i don’t see them to be to the level were you put them. A single yonko or admiral being added to another yonkos crew is a strong boost. As the gorosei called it “ENORMOUS power”. But that doesn’t mean they can take over the world now. It simply means that they will have a bigger chance at winning.

    And we don’t know were blackbeard is heading next. He might be planning an invasion of another yonko. We haven’t even seen the guy yet. And as i told you before, BB pirates don’t completely trust Aokiji yet. Even Doffy sensed something fishy with Aokiji. So even if Blackbeard has a great asset like Aokiji, he is not someone he can trust completely.

    I don’t think the navy can rival all the four yonkos. Thats why they made the schichibukai to balance it. I think the combined forces of four yonkos is > the navy. But individually i think Yonko>=<Admiral. I.e, some yonkos are slightly stronger than some admirals, and some admirals are slightly stronger than some yonkos. But either way the fight would reach very high diff.

    • Sane - January 11, 2018 at 4:07 pm #

      I forgot to add the burn damage proof. But it’s the hell memories attack on Wadatsumi. Wadatsumi was burning and that was the additional damage on him. And wadatsumi was in FI, which is after Jyabura. So your point about flames of DJ being pointless after Jyabura is wrong.

    • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 6:25 pm #

      1. there’s no evidence to suggest that Chopper would have more powerful moves in monster point or any reason to believe that they would be much stronger than any other moves in the same form.

      2. yes, but I don’t think chopper would lie for the sake of tricking viewers. luffy didn’t say that he only had 2 gears

      3. When I said improvement I’m talking about new techniques or powerups after the time skip. Usopp getting Haki in Dressrosa was a new ability, not learned during the time skip. Red Hawk and Elephant Gatling were learned during the time skip.

      4. I never said they weren’t the weakling trio. Either way, if she couldn’t use the technique at the time because of her weapon, then that new technique would be a post time skip powerup.

      5. I never said they weren’t the monster trio.

      6. That’s actually not true, as Sanji stated that he tried to bring down his captain to the best of his ability.

      7. Sanji uses a weaker technique (according to you) and Judge blocks it effortlessly so that means Judge is weaker? Anyway, it surprised him because the force of the attack did no damage.

      8. No, it goes to show that new techniques don’t need to be shown in fights where the character hasn’t been pushed to their limits. Sanji lost against Vergo, Luffy did not lose to Doflamingo by being restrained and knocked to a lower floor in the same way that he didn’t lose to Monet.

      9. Yes, it seems that they’re saying one of their strongest forces leaving their ranks and joining the ranks of an emperor makes them look bad. The government fears an emperor and their entire network, but the government also has an entire network.

      10. Well, the four emperors are balanced because they’re equally powerful. Adding another commander here and there isn’t necessarily going to do much, but adding another emperor level power would shift the tides enormously. So yes, two emperors in one crew would take over the rest and become pirate king. There’s a reason why the government fears two emperors coming in contact so much, because they wouldn’t be able to maintain the balance against that level of power.

      11. Hell Memories is not Diable Jambe, it’s a completely different technique.

  15. antarus - January 11, 2018 at 4:08 pm #

    pudding is like 13

    gg sanji

    • ~7OPofD.w0rld - January 11, 2018 at 5:24 pm #

      Now that you mentioned it she is the 35th daughter witch would make her younger than Furenpe….hmmmm not sure how to feel about this though it would more or less explain some of her childish actions

      • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 6:01 pm #

        ever since i saw pudding’s outfit the first time, they boy like one i knew she is Young. that is what 13 years old wear back at my place XD

        • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 6:30 pm #

          really? I’ve always thought she looked like an adult, or at the very youngest an older teenager

  16. antarus - January 11, 2018 at 6:50 pm #

    sanji was officially turned into complete joke.

    • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 7:15 pm #

      been that way for a long time now

    • ~7OPofD.w0rld - January 11, 2018 at 8:46 pm #

      Damn, I also think we’ve been waiting for to long for something great from him so at this point it seems like anything he does is simply unsatisfactory…

      But well, to much negativity…let’s say that attack on Oven was cute, and his moment is knocking on the door so let’s not lose ALL hope…damn I wrote this halfheartedly …

  17. The Brak - January 11, 2018 at 7:42 pm #

    I was thinking what if Luffy went MIA after this arc ? I mean we will see him unlock prediction CoO and start winning with Katakuri but then no news from Luffy. SHs will escape WCI and Luffy wont be there.

    He will rejoin them somewhere later. The only problem I see with it that Oda rarely skip main protagonist for more than 3-4 chapters

    • GomoGomoNo - January 11, 2018 at 9:49 pm #

      I’ve read theories about Luffy going to the Reverie using the mirror world and then regrouping with the Strawhats later. But for this to be the case Brulee’s powers would have to be world wide, but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t reach that far. That would make her powers a little too broken and give the Big Mom pirates a ridiculous advantage.

      • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 10:07 pm #

        you know I thought about this earlier but didn’t navy hq relocate during the time skip to the new world? and that’s why sabaody archipelago is now a lawless zone?

        • GomoGomoNo - January 11, 2018 at 11:05 pm #

          Yeah, Marine HQ is now in the New World, but it was noted to be close to the Redline. So that’s still a pretty broken range if her powers can reach that far across the New World.

        • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 11:08 pm #

          nah I was just thinking sailing there might make a little more sense now or maybe they accidentally get swept there by a storm or something

  18. antarus - January 11, 2018 at 9:03 pm #

    so will now sanji get Bounty increase for pudding13?

    • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 9:09 pm #

      that is how he will suprass zoro in bounty

    • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 9:49 pm #

      for the 4th time considering one piece took place in the 1500s and that wasn’t illegal back then probably not

      • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 10:06 pm #

        1500 yet their cyborg technology is way better then what we have today

        • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 10:09 pm #

          well vegapunk is considered so intelligent that he’s apparently hundreds of years ahead of the rest of scientists but it still lacks a lot of modern inventions

        • antarus - January 11, 2018 at 10:11 pm #

          franky self cyborg himself too

        • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 10:31 pm #

          that wasn’t from advanced technology that was just from scraps on a ship, one piece is a fantasy world don’t forget

  19. antarus - January 11, 2018 at 10:50 pm #

    pics are out with the new girl, she looks younger then pudding

    • Bob - January 11, 2018 at 11:08 pm #

      maybe it was an error, kind of hoping it was

    • paiseha - January 12, 2018 at 1:44 am #

      looks like she possess devil fruit of chewing gum :o

  20. Savage - January 12, 2018 at 12:07 am #

    If you watched Devilman Crybaby why does Miko sound like a fucking horse? LMFAOOO I couldn’t find anything about this on the internet, does anyone know? I don’t think it was just a gag, it at least deserves an explanation after the guy with the yellow glasses askes her about the sound and we see it again lol wtf

  21. goldroger - January 12, 2018 at 5:10 am #

    no break next week confirmed

  22. goldroger - January 12, 2018 at 5:19 am #

    korean scan
    http://wasabisyrup.com/archives/yxCypySB7PU?_adtbrdg=e#_adtReady

    • controlminds- no mi - January 12, 2018 at 5:30 am #

      Luffy is getting wreckd

      • goldroger - January 12, 2018 at 5:50 am #

        yeah bro lol.for sure he is one tough mofo.built like a tank

      • Controlminds- no mi - January 12, 2018 at 5:50 am #

        Are people still sayin’ dofly>katty?

        • goldroger - January 12, 2018 at 5:53 am #

          lmao i though they say doffy>kitty

        • Controlminds- no mi - January 12, 2018 at 6:42 am #

          Lmao!!!

  23. warriors_not_winning_in_2016 - January 12, 2018 at 5:53 am #

    891 raw
    http://www.mangatail.com/ch/one-piece-891

  24. kizaruuu - January 12, 2018 at 6:39 am #

    I’ve never seen Luffy getting his a** kicked like that before .. What kind of uber power up is going to save him from this situation … c’mon he isn’t like a saying that we can expect some kind of transformation if he’s near death state -,- …

    • kizaruuu - January 12, 2018 at 6:39 am #

      Like a Saiyan*

    • burnhotspot - January 12, 2018 at 6:58 am #

      Luffy can wreck Katakuri with Gear4, he just need to figure out how to deal with Katakuri Foresight.

      Once luffy improved his CoO or figured out a way, he can beat him.

      • goldroger - January 12, 2018 at 7:05 am #

        Once luffy improved his CoO or figured out a way, he can beat him.

        that “Once” cost us 12 chapters already

        • burnhotspot - January 12, 2018 at 8:39 am #

          wouldn’t be much of a challenge for luffy if he didn’t have to push beyond extremes to obtain new power.

          right now, we’re looking at full power luffy vs Katakuri.

          When luffy wins, he’ll be ranked higher/equal to Yonko 1st commander tier. only then he’ll have “chance” against Yonko or Admirals.

        • goldroger - January 12, 2018 at 8:47 am #

          agree.he doesn’t just get better coo but also he made improvement on his raw strength,better coa,managed to prolong g4 timelimit and has better endurance post g4.this deathmatch meant to be to break his limit to go next level and worth like year of training.while some dumbass think he can take down yonko already.

      • Triple-X Drake - January 12, 2018 at 7:38 am #

        I agree, which is why Luffy is still in his base form

        • goldroger - January 12, 2018 at 7:55 am #

          bcause he will get wrecked again like last time he use g4 without future seen

          g4 completely useless against calm katakuri.

    • 10 - January 12, 2018 at 7:25 am #

      According to spoilers, Luffy already starts to foresee Kata’s movements. So it wont be transformation, however, I wonder how the fight of two future seeing paramecia will resolve.

      If any of them will be able to land a hit… This is where we will get an answear to the question who is stronger here.

      • burnhotspot - January 12, 2018 at 8:48 am #

        For normal abilities, Katakuri is superior to luffy in every way.

        But for gear4, katakuri is inferior in terms of speed and power. but brute force here is useless bcos katakuri is intercepting every move luffy is making.

        This is a huge example where it shows having powerful brute force doesn’t always guarantee a win.

  25. Xcalibur100 - January 12, 2018 at 7:39 am #

    I was waiting to see what Nami does with Zeus… but apparently nothing happened..
    So basically the next next chapter would be BM eating a cake or something of that sort..

    • kram - January 12, 2018 at 7:59 am #

      nami still cant use zeus as he is still closer to big mom. he can escape anytime. basically big mom should eat the cake. if she will be stopped by her sons/daughters thinking that it is not safe for big mom to eat, then we will see pandemonium on big mom crews as she will kill anyone who stops her. those are the only scenarios i can see. but i’ll just leave it to oda.

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