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One Piece 912 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第912

2018 July 19
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One Piece 912 Spoiler: The last Chapter end with Great Adventure in Wano Starting…!!! So what happens next..? find out story on One Piece 912 Spoiler Discussion 「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第912話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoiler or prediction, please leave a comment below.

One Piece 912 Spoiler Summaries

Luffy tells Otama that Ace has passed away. Otama is shocked and loses her consciousness. Tengu gets mad at Luffy saying that even if it’s the truth, he shouldn’t have told her now. Tengu is a swordsmith. He too has been waiting for someone for a long time. The place they are living in right now is called Amigasa village and it used to be a normal village, but one year ago, Kaidou’s army’s headliner Drake destroyed the whole village. The only place that is flourishing in Wano right now is where Orochi is living, the flower town.

All other places were turned into a wilderness by Kaidou. 4 years ago, the Amigasa village was so poor that people were starving to death, and one pirate ship arrived. As the pirates were weakened, the people from the village, tied the pirates up and took their food away. Once everyone from the village have finished eating, one pirate was able to easily untie himself. And that pirate was Ace. He intentionally let himself tie up and shared the food with them. Once they realize that, they thank Ace, and Otama especially was attached to Ace.

Once Luffy finished hearing that story, he takes Otama to see a doctor. Tengu tells him that he will stand out like that, so he gives Luffy his own clothes. Luffy wants to take the Katana that he found in the house with him, but Tengu doesn’t allow Luffy to take it with him. The katana that Luffy tried to take was “Nidai Kitetsu”. So Luffy suggests that he will exchange this with the katana Tengu is carrying. But Tengu says the Nidai Kitetsu is cursed so he doesn’t want to touch it. Although Tengu tries to stop Luffy, he still takes the Nidai Kitetsu with him. He rides on the Komainu, and Otama wakes up. Otama accuses Luffy of being a liar and rampages.

Ace promised her that once Otama becomes a great Kunocihi, she is allowed to go out to the seas with Ace. Once they get out of the bamboo groove, it’s exactly as Tengu said, it is wilderness. Beyond the wilderness, there are several factories, and in the wilderness, there are ferocious animals fighting against each other. Luffy wants to beat the animals and eat them, but apparently those animals also have drunk from the poisoned water, so he can’t eat them. On their way, there is a bad guy chasing women, but that bad guy gets easily beaten by a swordsman. Once Luffy looks carefully, he realizes that the swordsman is Zoro. They are happy that they were able to meet again, but at that moment, Hawkins appears with his underlings.

CHAPTER END
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Color page: Mugiwara pirates playing all kinds of sports (a collaboration w/ Yomiuri Shimbun)

Luffy, Karate
Zoro, baseball
Nami, tennis
Sanji swimming
Usopp, Shooting
Chopper, boxing
Robin, horse riding
Franky, basketball
Brooke, Football

3,774 Responses to “One Piece 912 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第912”

  1. Tipdrill - August 10, 2018 at 2:09 am #

    I think zoro is the gai sensei of one piece.

    Post time skip he hasn’t been challenged properly. Just like when pain attacked konoha gai was conveniently out of town.

    I believe zoro is almost on par with Luffy.

    • shadyman - August 10, 2018 at 7:38 am #

      No he’s not , this is a ridiculous comparison no offence , they are both beasts I agree but that’s it, zoro has Waaaayyyy more screen time than guy , guy actually never really had more than one or two decent fights!!! And his screen time was mostly limited aswell

      • shadyman - August 10, 2018 at 7:40 am #

        Problem with kishi was that he created a lot of well drawn and interesting characters but did not find enough space to give them, wasted a whole lot of breath on sasugay and not enough on other characters

    • GomoGomoNo - August 11, 2018 at 3:09 pm #

      Guy would have been wrecked by Pain. He was conveniently out of town because he would have gone 8-gates and died for no reason.

  2. antarus - August 10, 2018 at 8:12 am #

    something interesting I saw someoen point out about this new girl character

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banchō_Sarayashiki

  3. pokopikos88 - August 10, 2018 at 11:19 am #

    repost

    ok guys what do you think about new OP devil fruits in one piece world that missing? is there an ability that we have to see? what ability do you want to see? name the devil fruit powers that you want oda to bring in the manga:D

    also i believe the 3rd admiral ryokugyo will be the user of the ENERGY fruit.
    marines’ admirals powers have to do with laws of physics…like gravity, light… The energy fruit suits well the admiral trio.also there is a power ‘energy metabolization’ this explains the 3 year no food for ryokugyo

    for me fruits that i want to see are:
    -time control paramecia fruit
    -nature control paramecia
    -plasma control paramecia
    -oil/pertoleum logia
    -sense paramecia (can control all 5 senses of all beings)
    -nerve paramecia (pain inducement/fear)
    -mass manipulation fruit

    what do you think?

    • pokopikos88 - August 10, 2018 at 11:40 am #

      organic manipulation fruit would be OP also.

    • GomoGomoNo - August 11, 2018 at 3:18 pm #

      – Wind Logia
      – Metal Logia
      – Various Ancient Devil Fruits
      – Mythical Zoans based on Norse Mythology for Elbaf
      – Mythical Zoans based on Japanese Mythology for Wano
      – Kaido > Snake DF: Model Dragon God, Mythical Zoan(Toughest Body because it’s Dragon Scales, Flight, Water Attacks)
      – Greenbull > Forest Spirit, Mythical Zoan(Nature Control and Energy Absorbtion)
      – Dragon > Storm DF, Special Paramecia (Wind, Lighting, and Water manipulation, but not a logia)

      • pokopikos88 - August 11, 2018 at 7:48 pm #

        green bull may have energy related fruit.

        im wondering if there is a special class of zoan instead of mythical and ancient if yes i would like to see kaido have a zoan physiology fruit and can turn his body into different animal feautures like a fruit version of absalom body.

        metal logia also would be cool but i think there is a non cannon character that uses this.. hes name is graydle or something like that

        • pokopikos88 - August 11, 2018 at 7:50 pm #

          ah also i think the wind logia is the gas gas fruit or it has to be.

          dragon may have a mythical zoan related to heaven or sky that control the weather

  4. devriz99 - August 10, 2018 at 11:25 am #

    Just to ask my fellow pirates. Is there a holiday in Japan at the moment? When can we expect a chapter?

    • pokopikos88 - August 10, 2018 at 11:47 am #

      next week chapter .. we got break again

      • devriz99 - August 10, 2018 at 12:28 pm #

        Thanks for the info.

  5. antarus - August 10, 2018 at 12:01 pm #

    I forgot about carrot.

    So it has to be 2 supernovas at the same time to take on sanji, brook, nami and zeus, carrot, monster chopper. apoo and xdrake

    unless it will be just 1 calamity that has a broken power

    • GomoGomoNo - August 11, 2018 at 3:19 pm #

      1 Calamity would take all of those people solo.

  6. antarus - August 10, 2018 at 12:01 pm #

    Btw germa gear some have heaphones. that coudl be used to counter apoo’s singing power. if sanji has that type of suit

  7. Doflamingo - August 10, 2018 at 12:34 pm #

    150 page one punch man coming it today

    • Bob - August 10, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

      which one was the last chapter, it feels like forever since it came out unless I missed it

      how did it end

  8. Nico olvia - August 10, 2018 at 4:54 pm #

    this is what i think, zoro is above killer but lower than hawkins,law and kidd though the difference is not much, sanji on the other hand is on par with killer or lower
    Zoro didnt try to protect the girl, he told luffy to protect her while he take on that puppet, zoro is not the guy who tries to protect his friends while fighting. in dressrosa he asked someone to take care of the trash while he cut down pica,he told kinemon to take care of law while he attack doffy. zoro took damage cos he is not as fast as sanji or luffy. sanji or luffy will dodge those nails.

    This is my ranking
    G4>>>kidd>=hawkins=law>=zoro>g2>killer>=sanji.

    Though sanji is the least but only G4 could be faster than sanji

    • antarus - August 10, 2018 at 4:56 pm #

      for sure the captain supernovas are above the underling supernovas.

      Even capone and urouge should be above zoro

      • shadyman - August 10, 2018 at 5:06 pm #

        Maybe even Bonney should be above zolo

        • antarus - August 10, 2018 at 5:12 pm #

          it’s kinda confirmed with urouge how he beat sweet commander ,yet zoro never beat someone on that level

      • pokopikos88 - August 10, 2018 at 10:20 pm #

        wtf :D guysyou completely ignore the story :D :D or your hate is on another level..rly cant tell

    • Mad19 - August 10, 2018 at 5:18 pm #

      “zoro is not the guy who tries to protect his friends while fighting”

      https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/32/14

      ..Ussopp hadn’t even joined the crew at the time.

    • nickname - August 10, 2018 at 5:26 pm #

      I think Zoro is the strongest of the worst gen, after Teach and Luffy ofc. not trying to take anything away from guys like Law, Kidd and Drake though, imo many underestimate them and I expect them to be pretty close to current Zoro at least.

      • Sane - August 10, 2018 at 7:23 pm #

        ^ +1

      • pokopikos88 - August 10, 2018 at 10:04 pm #

        agreed. at least EOS zoro will be stronger. if not , kid drake and law are stronger than mihawk as well

    • 10 - August 11, 2018 at 8:06 am #

      Well, he took all the damage from Kuma to protect Luffy

    • GomoGomoNo - August 11, 2018 at 3:49 pm #

      Sanji would never have dodged those nails, he would try to deflect them just the same and intentionally get hit with any that he missed before he ever let one get near Tama or Tsuru. Infact Sanji would have sensed Tsuru inside the tail and probably fly forward to meet the straw monster before it got close to them. He wouldn’t have been able to destroy it as easily as Zoro, but the end result would be the same.

      1a. Kidd = 75.4
      (I think he’s slightly stronger than Law based on expectation of his portrayal of being one of the 3 main supernova with Luffy and Law)
      1b. Law = 75.3
      (Defeated Vergo after getting his heart back and was able to fight Doffy for a bit, but Luffy in just G2/3 did far better than Law)
      3. Urouge = 75.1
      (Defeated the weakest Sweet Commander, but still a Sweet Commander)
      4. Apoo = 73.9
      (Has been Rivals with Kidd since they were introduced together on Sabaody 2 years ago and was still challenging him post skip. Oda also gave him the third highest known supernova bounty post skip at $350)
      5. X-Drake = 73.2
      6. Zoro = 72.7
      (Defeated Pica, Countered a gravity burial by Fuji, had a relatively even exchange back and forth with Hawkins)
      7. Hawkins = 72.6
      (Was promoted to a Headliner right away and ^fight with Zoro)
      8. Bonney = 71.1
      9. Capone = 70.9
      (weak normally, however he fights with his whole crew inside his body, thus the name “gang” bege. His castle mode is also strong enough to tank some basic Yonko level attacks)
      10. Killer = 70.3
      11. Sanji = 69.6
      (Hasn’t really been all that impressive, however he did speed blitz a distracted Oven and blocked a massive genie of Dai.

      • pokopikos88 - August 11, 2018 at 8:06 pm #

        killer for me is the weakest of all. he got a 162 m bounty cos he attack civilians like kid did. in the new world his bounty raised to 200. the least impressive raise ive heard. oda gave his name out of pure boredom. Sanji is way stronger than him.

        apoo till now has no feats at all cant put him over drake zoro and hawkins.
        no name in the new world like kid drake, no win over someone important like urouge. Even law took a shichibukai status that intended to go for hawkins like oda stated. capone conquer west blue before became pirate and bonney is so important that admiral akainu gave her credits

  9. Mad19 - August 10, 2018 at 5:23 pm #

    Lmao at people saying Zoro stands below the captain supernovas.

    Dude could hold his ground against Fujitora when Law was getting wrecked by Doflamingo.

    Only supernova who’s up there with Zoro is the future pirate king.

    • antarus - August 10, 2018 at 5:32 pm #

      what?

      you forgot fujitora and foflamingo team up on law and yet he still escaped?

      fujitora send zoro in a hole to the pits of hel then send some lame as slash and fujitora lost interest in him.

      even luffy without gear 4 had a much longer battle with fujitora then fodder zolo

    • Bob - August 10, 2018 at 5:33 pm #

      if by hold his own ground against fujitora you mean crushed underground by fujitora

      kid is probably just as strong as luffy, stop underestimating the supernovas

      • shadyman - August 10, 2018 at 5:57 pm #

        Hes not underestimatingt he supernova , he’s simply overestimating g zoro

        • Bob - August 10, 2018 at 7:05 pm #

          it’s both, since he said that kid isn’t luffy’s level

        • Mad19 - August 10, 2018 at 7:21 pm #

          Or maybe your estimations are just wrong.

        • Bob - August 10, 2018 at 11:08 pm #

          no, that would be yours

        • Mad19 - August 11, 2018 at 2:22 am #

          That’s the epitome of ignorance. Acting like you know stuff when there’s no actual evidence to support it. Keep it up dude, i hope this makes you happy somehow lmao

        • Bob - August 11, 2018 at 2:31 am #

          “no actual evidence” well except for the fact that kid was the only supernova with a higher bounty than luffy pre-time skip, and the fact that kid was the only other supernova who had a subordinate that was also a supernova, and them fighting outside the auction house together. those things weren’t done for no reason.

          more like, the idea that luffy is much stronger than kid has no actual evidence behind it. it was nothing more than an admiral fanboy notion after kid was beaten by kaido, oda was clearly trying to hype up the villain by showing how well someone around luffy’s level did against him and kaido even said “look what happened to someone else of your generation” yet admiral fanboys insisted that it was actually just showing the gap between luffy and the rest of the supernovas and–surprise–luffy was no match for big mom and was weaker than her first commander at the beginning of the fight.

        • Mad19 - August 11, 2018 at 2:37 am #

          I stopped reading the moment i saw the phrase “an admiral fanboy”

          I’ve seen many fanboys of certain characters but why would anyone bs a fan of the admirals in general? “Admiral fanboys” is like saying “police fanboys” and trust me i hate police Lmfao

        • Bob - August 11, 2018 at 2:42 am #

          “I stopped reading the moment i saw the phrase “an admiral fanboy””

          and that is the problem, learn reading comprehension and then we’ll talk

        • nickname - August 11, 2018 at 2:42 am #

          ngl imo, it’s pretty impressive how you managed to make this about admirals and their fanboys instead of just the worst gen like it was supposed to.

          I sincerely hope you keep this up and we might actually reach the point where everyone is so tired of the topic that it actually stops coming up.

        • Bob - August 11, 2018 at 2:45 am #

          what’s pretty impressive is how you routinely tell everyone to just ignore me even though most people don’t even care to begin with while you’re one of the few people to keep replying to my posts when most of them aren’t even directed at you

        • Mad19 - August 11, 2018 at 2:49 am #

          Admiral fanboyz need Zoro to be stronger than the rest of the supernovazzz LMAOOO

        • nickname - August 11, 2018 at 2:53 am #

          it’s not really about you personally, I’m just trying to help to get some conversations going that are actually interesting and engaging instead of rinse and repeat

        • Bob - August 11, 2018 at 2:57 am #

          well that’s fine but I’m actually not trying to re-ignite that debate. what I was saying is, the notion that luffy is much stronger than kid never had any evidence behind it. it was mostly just a bunch of admiral fanboys who thought big mom was going down in whole cake island, who thought that kid losing to kaido was showing the gap between luffy and the supernovas when it was actually showing the gap between the supernovas and emperors.

          and right after saying our “estimations are just wrong” he has the audacity to say that we’re the ones not using any evidence when there is literally no evidence that proves that luffy is much stronger than kid

        • nickname - August 11, 2018 at 3:11 am #

          you still seem very fixiated on this though, considering how often you mention those two groups or reply to posts about them, but not every power level estimation someone makes is connected to admirals or emperors.

          in the case of Luffy vs Kidd, there’s the comparison to Law (who many expect to be around Kidd’s level), who did worse than Luffy on dressrosa vs Doffy for example and also Luffy having much better accomplishments, like vs the BM pirates (they see Kidd as a brat who sunk some of their ships while Luffy did way more)

        • Bob - August 11, 2018 at 3:20 am #

          I am referring to a particular period of time when people were saying how luffy was clearly much stronger than the rest of the supernovas because kid lost to kaido and they thought luffy would beat big mom that arc and that didn’t happen. that’s all

          as far as law goes it’s worth mentioning that he had already used a lot of energy after fujitora and doflamingo teamed up on him. when he escaped fujitora’s gravity trap doflamingo even said “he still had this much energy left?” and luffy wouldn’t have beaten doflamingo if it wasn’t for law.

          aside from that I don’t know why people would compare kid to law but not luffy. kid was the only supernova with a higher bounty than luffy pre-time skip and he was the only other supernova who had a subordinate that was also a supernova. that giant fist move he used next to luffy’s gear third also looked similar and implied that they were the same power.

          luffy has much better accomplishments than kid, but he also has much better accomplishments than zoro.

        • Doflamingo - August 11, 2018 at 5:37 am #

          @nickname
          You just can’t avoid it around here lmao

  10. antarus - August 10, 2018 at 5:32 pm #

    Please use the official translation ”zolo”. zoro is in another universe, the mask of zoro

    • Suki - August 11, 2018 at 8:28 pm #

      No, that would be “Zorro” with a double r.

  11. Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 5:38 pm #

    Actually Luffy and Zoro were the only 2 supernovas that stopped and trained for 2 years.. I think they’re the ones on top.

    • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 5:45 pm #

      I think the fact that they were on the brink of extinction and realized they were too weak was their motivation to surpass their limitsand to stand on equal ground with the top dogs. Even though Zoro is below Luffy he still stands on top of the other supernova. But that’s just what I think.

      • shadyman - August 10, 2018 at 5:56 pm #

        Well zoro got lucky , he got the perfect master a swordsman cud ask for at his then level, but still real life near death experiences matter a lot too , so it’s debatable at best , look at kid he’s as reckless as luffy having that damaged body and what not , and he was the only supernova who ddnt bow to kaido back then m guessing he cud even compete with luffy for the strongest supernova

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 6:21 pm #

          Yea but the show already had their near death experience and trained so hard that they would never get in such position again. You train for 2 years with such a mindstate and you will make great improvements so that’s the reason for my claim.

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 6:27 pm #

          The show= the sh’s

        • shadyman - August 10, 2018 at 6:37 pm #

          Ok man frst of all, luffy had several near death experiences , and he is the only an who had any real fights post ts and shs are gna have near death experiences if they wanna reach the top , it ain’t gonna be no cakewalk
          And in past they had near death experiences but so did other supernovas m sure,,, they all fought either kizaru or kuma bots ,,,
          Training doesn’t really give them an overwhelming edge , look at Sanji , he cud have accomplished that much in new world but with more risks to his life than in training , same goes for other strawhats , maybe not , ussop , frankly( coz they got some plot boost much needed still maybe they would have developed in a dfrnt way) but all others cud have done it just with more risk , or some of them cud have died against stronger wnemies

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 6:53 pm #

          When I say that they trained to never get in such position again I clearly meant that the sh wouldn’t get in such position like they were in in SA, where they could’ve done nothing but to run. And I agree that NDE is of great importance when it comes to improving, still if you don’t have enough training you wouldn’t be in a be position to overcome those NDE anyway. Like if Luffy fought against Katakuri without training and just relied on experience, he would’ve gotten fucked. He even had a flashback of his training. So training is of great importance in I think you guys underestimate the 2 years of training.
          Law was surprised when he saw Luffy curbstomping doflamingo where he was planning to die fighting him. The difference in level is like huge..

        • shadyman - August 10, 2018 at 7:29 pm #

          “When I say that they trained to never get in such position again I clearly meant that the sh wouldn’t get in such position like they were in in SA, where they could’ve done nothing but to run”
          Well they did run most of the wci so I don’t get what you are saying really!
          Law wasn’t surprised it was Cavendish I think, law simply said he’s Losin g haki too fast
          And m sure if Kidd fought katakuri he wud have as much a chance as luffy
          It’s simple : training made their path less risky while other supernovas took more risks like kidd while some just used brains and stayed out of major powers way until otherwise , of course if they fought katakuri two years ago all would lose , against g4 luffy at dressrosa law could just run around using room and hide till g4 runs out and bam kill him but luffy right now is strong as fuck simply thanks to the plot of him having to fight cracker frst and then katakuri step by step unlike Kidd who got kaidou

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 7:49 pm #

          “Well they did run most of the wci so I don’t get what you are saying really!”

          They already accomplished their goal, they literally stated their plan before WCI even began, and it’s not like Luffy didn’t try to fight big mom. He did and got stopped everytime by either making or sanji. They weren’t running away because they were helpless but because it wasn’t the moment to fight BM.

          “Law wasn’t surprised it was Cavendish I think, law simply said he’s Losin g haki too fast”

          Law was surprised that Luffy still had something like that up his sleeve. Those were his words iirc.

          “And m sure if Kidd fought katakuri he wud have as much a chance as luffy”

          Nothing in the manga suggest that.

          “against g4 luffy at dressrosa law could just run around using room and hide till g4 runs out and bam kill him”

          Law almost got slaughtered by doffy but doffy got wrecked by Luffy. Do the math.

          “simply thanks to the plot of him having to fight cracker frst and then katakuri step by step unlike Kidd who got kaidou”

          Kidd had 2 years to fight lots of yonkou commanders before facing a yonkou but in those 2 years he didn’t face no one of importance from what we know.

        • shadyman - August 10, 2018 at 8:22 pm #

          If luffy fought big mom back then he would die , how easily she blocked g4 and luffy went fussssss
          They accomplisshed their goal but they almost died and then got saved thanx to main character plot safegueards , they had no chance of winning or getting out alive if they clashed head on with big mom army and not counting bigmomnhere
          In the end they were still running
          Law knew luffy s weakness asap
          And luffy only fought dodgy after law damaged him with gamma knife so dodgy wasn’t at full strength besides law had been fighting Fuji and dodgy all along
          And since law knew g4 s weakness all he had to do was wait for the timeout , with his ability it’s hardly a challenge , fights are not always won with brawns but brains behind brawns

          “Kidd had 2 years to fight lots of yonkou commanders before facing a yonkou but in those 2 years he didn’t face no one of importance from what we know.”
          Luffy didn’t fight commander willingly but out of compulsion ( that too it was after a fight with dffy as good training for cracker and then against dogtooth, if it had been dogtooth frst he had to fight it would be a dfrnt story)so why would Kidd, besides he did try to pickup fights with strong pirates. Including bm pirate ship
          And nothing suggests Kidd didn’t fight any commanders from other crews it’s just your assumption, it could go either way, besides Kidd ddnt runagainst a yo kou , much respect!!!
          Also the wounds Kidd suffered explain his recklessness , probably the most reckless supernova after luffy but without his luck !

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 12:51 am #

          “If luffy fought big mom back then he would die , how easily she blocked g4 and luffy went fussssss”

          Assumptions. We think he would’ve died but like you yourself stated: “got saved thanx to main character plot safegueards” so there is a probability that Luffy wouldn’t have died fighting big mom if they clashed in wci. But even that is also an assumption.

          I’ve stated in my previous post that the show trained so that they never end up in that particular situation again where all they could do is to run, and wci isn’t like the SA situation so it doesn’t make sense to compare them.

          “Law knew luffy s weakness asap
          And luffy only fought dodgy after law damaged him with gamma knife so dodgy wasn’t at full strength”

          Neither was Luffy.

          “besides law had been fighting Fuji and dodgy all along”

          No, he wasn’t fighting them, he was trying to escape.

          “And since law knew g4 s weakness all he had to do was wait for the timeout , with his ability it’s hardly a challenge , fights are not always won with brawns but brains behind brawns”

          Assumptions again. You assume Luffy would give him space to wait for a timeout. And if law knew the weakness of G4 doffy knew it too and even do it didn’t help him much now did it.

          “Luffy didn’t fight commander willingly but out of compulsion”

          Luffy willingly went to WCI and willingly challenged Katakuri to a mano a mano. He had a chance to trap Katakuri in the mirror world but he didn’t. He went back to fight him.

          “And nothing suggests Kidd didn’t fight any commanders from other crews it’s just your assumption”

          No I’m not the one assuming things. You saying he did without any proof are assuming. The burden of proof lays on you to prove me something that wasn’t even suggested in the manga.

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 1:06 am #

          “And since law knew g4 s weakness all he had to do was wait for the timeout , with his ability it’s hardly a challenge , fights are not always won with brawns but brains behind brawns”

          Also would like to add, Law df itself drains a great amount of stamina so saying it would hardly be a challenge is untrue.

        • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 2:20 pm #

          Listen man m not gonna argue with you on this , too much energy is wasted !!!
          Here’s my point in the least lengthy way possible :luffy without future sight had drawbacks like stamina ok so he wasn’t much stronger than law and others
          The training was useful in the sense that it made their period in New world less risky unlike Kidd who lost his body parts and he didnt have to bow before an emperor unlike drake so that was the entire point of training , he still can’t beat yonkou but he can beat commanders but only after a couple of near death battles like against mingo and then cracker did he reach a level enough to chalwenge dogtooth whom he initially wanted to avoid but had to fight to protect his crew and then later madness took over and he wanted to win and if he fought bm back then he would have lost surely !!! His strongest form attack was stopped by bm casually like it was not a big deal

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 2:45 pm #

          I agree that this discussion went on for way too long. So I’ll just agree to disagree. I’m of the opinion that the 2 years of training put Luffy and Zoro above the other supernova. That’s just what I believe and could be wrong. But I’m pretty sure I’m not. I just don’t want to keep on writing long post to respond to you and then another one to respond to Bob. So just agree to disagree until Oda proves us wrong.

        • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 4:00 pm #

          Ok we have both made our points and there’s an element of truth to both,,, so let’s respectfully agree to disagree

    • antarus - August 10, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

      the rest of supernovas got trained in the NW, where it counts.
      not fighting monkeys and some animals lol

      they got trained beating yonkou crew veterans

      and reminder that you can only improve haki in extreme battles, not just having some teacher show it to you

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 6:15 pm #

        They got trained in the NW but in just a couple of weeks in the NW Luffy wrecks more havoc than they did in 2 years. Yea, Kidd got raped by Kaido, apoo turned bitch, Hawkins turned into a bitch. Law was a bitch of the world government. Drake turned into a bitch. Urouge could defeat 1 sweet commander before he got fucked. Bonnie is constantly in hiding. Capone was BM bitchand wouldve been killed if he didn’t carry out the execution plan with Luffy. Dude for the 2 years of expierence they have they all turned into bitches or they got wrecked.

        • antarus - August 10, 2018 at 6:19 pm #

          luffy has the main chaarcter syndrome, so that will Always make him more succesful. zoro doesn’t have that.

          and while in OP verse time stands still, luffy strated his adventure 21 years ago, oda an say whatever he wants about OP time

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 6:22 pm #

          The SH’s are the main characters. And Zoro is one of them.

        • antarus - August 10, 2018 at 6:30 pm #

          the is only 1 main, reason it’s called main character, not main characterS.

          everyone else is secondary character

        • shadyman - August 10, 2018 at 6:31 pm #

          Luffy is the main character not strawhats , and if strawhats become overwhelmingly powerful , they will not have rivals and shit!!! Besides this ain’t naruto or bleach or dbz where the gap between main characters and others is sky high
          Power level is closeby

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 6:42 pm #

          Even if it’s like that, my other points still stand. Plus Zoro is bound to have special treatment not only because he is the main character’s first man, but also the author’s favourite character iirc.

          @ shadyman
          I don’t understand what you are trying to say with your comparison.

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 7:08 pm #

          Just searched it, Oda favourite character is Gaimon so scratch that part.

    • Bob - August 10, 2018 at 7:09 pm #

      nah, rayleigh said the only way for haki to reach the top was with actual battle experience, not training. sanji trained for 2 years and yet he’s still fodder tier.

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 7:12 pm #

        Sanji’s cooking skills improved because that’s what he trained. -__-

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 7:17 pm #

        Plus I already agreed on that part you mentioned. And it’s not like Zoro was training while the other supernova were battling. They all either bend over or they get raped… lol

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 7:34 pm #

        Plus you say Rayleigh said the only way to improve was through battle experience but you forget that Rayleigh was the one to suggest that Luffy stopped and trained before entering the NW, I’m sure if training wasn’t that big of a deal he wouldn’t have suggested it to begin with.

        • Bob - August 10, 2018 at 10:52 pm #

          I didn’t say he said that was the only way to train I said that was the only way for haki to reach the top level according to rayleigh. the training was important because most of the other supernovas who rushed into the new world ended up having to work under emperors or in kid’s case he lost an arm. luffy trained so that he was ready to enter from the very beginning but that doesn’t mean he’s stronger now. luffy and kid are probably equal

          also, sanji trained in fighting too, not just cooking, that’s how he was able to learn haki

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 12:55 am #

          ” the training was important because most of the other supernovas who rushed into the new world ended up having to work under emperors or in kid’s case he lost an arm. ”

          Okay so Luffy wont work under no emperor because he trained to go against them but the other supernovas who didn’t train ended up being yonkou bitches.

        • Bob - August 11, 2018 at 1:03 am #

          whether or not they work under an emperor or were beaten by an emperor is irrelevant, we are talking about fighting ability not their successes, neither luffy nor kid stood any chance against kaido.

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 1:16 am #

          It becomes relevant because they can’t/don’t oppose the yonkou whereas Luffy does .

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 1:17 am #

          Neither Kidd nor Coby stands a chance against kaido does that mean they’re on the same level? Lol

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 1:24 am #

          Plus Sanji didn’t train for 2 years. He was improving his culinary skills most of those 2 years. And did a bit of training but it was mostly his cooking skills that he trained.

        • Bob - August 11, 2018 at 2:14 am #

          not sure what retarded logic you’re using here with coby and kid. I was responding to your point that kid ended up being “kaido’s bitch” and luffy not, that has nothing to do with him not training for 2 years that has to do with his base being under the exact cloud of the exact sky island that kaido decided to jump off at that exact time.

          kid did oppose the emperors, he was forming an alliance to fight an emperor and if he hadn’t tried to oppose kaido he would’ve probably ended up as a headliner like hawkins and apoo.

          sanji trained for 2 years by defeating okamas and stealing the recipes from them that was the extent of him improving his “culinary skills”

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 8:21 am #

          I used that retarded logic cause u seem to understand that better than my regular explanation.

          Kidd went against a yonkou and failed while luffy went against a yonkou and succeeded because of his training. Thats all there is to it. Anything else you say is just headcannon and if you want to believe that then thats your problem but dont go saying it as if it was a fact. Saying kidd and luffy probably around the same level without any evidence is just absurd. That would mean luffy went into training to come out as strong as kidd. Well then the training was invain since he came out on kidd level.

          Sanji didnt train for the 2 whole years as he was also im0roving his coocking skill, while luffy and zoro trained their battle skills for 2 whooe years. Sanji is a cook, while luffy and zoro are just fighters. Thats the difference.

        • Bob - August 11, 2018 at 1:39 pm #

          I’m not sure how to make this any simpler for you. I’m the one using headcanon yet you say luffy succeeded against an emperor which never happened? you say if luffy was under that sky island at the time he would’ve won? yeah, no.

          the evidence is there because of parallels drawn pre-time skip. the evidence for luffy being much stronger than kid is non-existent. luffy tried to clash with big mom and she blocked his strongest form effortlessly then he spent the rest of the arc running away from her because she was unstoppable without a cake.

          the training was not in vain because luffy was able to enter the new world without joining an emperor’s crew or losing any limbs or losing to emperor subordinates so he was actually somewhat prepared after entering. kid entering as early as he did caused him to lose an arm. that doesn’t say anything about their power difference now.

          no, sanji did not train cooking over the time skip. he trained in fighting and happened to steal new recipes over the time skip. that’s it.

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 2:28 pm #

          “I’m not sure how to make this any simpler for you. I’m the one using headcanon yet you say luffy succeeded against an emperor which never happened?”

          Luffy told big mom that they would be the ones to win in the end and they did just that. If that’s not succeeding then I don’t know what’s succes in your eyes.

          ” you say if luffy was under that sky island at the time he would’ve won? yeah, no”

          Yea I never said that he would win. Never mentioned Luffy and sky island in one sentence. It’s you who said he wouldn’t have won , but that’s just a what if scenario.

          “the evidence is there because of parallels drawn pre-time skip. the evidence for luffy being much stronger than kid is non-existent”

          Lol how about the fact that Luffy is already being called the fifth emperor, or the fact that he defeated 2 yonkou commanders. Lol you wanna use pre-TS bounty as evidence but what about post TS bounty? Lol your point gets even more sillier when you realise that Kidd’s bounty was because he was killing innocent civilians. Whereas Luffy was protecting them.

          “Luffy tried to clash with big mom and she blocked his strongest form effortlessly then he spent the rest of the arc running away from her because she was unstoppable without a cake.”

          Luffy used his strongest form but didn’t use his strongest attack. And he made it clear like 10 times in WCI, that he would beat big mom after he defeated kaido because that’s was the plan.

          “the training was not in vain because luffy was able to enter the new world without joining an emperor’s crew or losing any limbs or losing to emperor subordinates so he was actually somewhat prepared after entering. kid entering as early as he did caused him to lose an arm. that doesn’t say anything about their power difference now.”

          Actually, to me, it does say a lot.

          “no, sanji did not train cooking over the time skip. he trained in fighting and happened to steal new recipes over the time skip. that’s it.”

          No he trained his cooking skills too, that’s it.

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 3:01 pm #

          “Luffy tried to clash with big mom and she blocked his strongest form effortlessly”

          Also, there were beast on Rusukainu who took Kong gun as if it was nothing and Luffy defeated them all so this point is invalid. Lol

        • Bob - August 11, 2018 at 3:52 pm #

          alright let me use your logic and maybe you will see how stupid it is. luffy lost to aokiji, kizaru, and akainu while kid never lost to any of them. therefore pre-time skip kid >>>>> luffy.

          do you see how retarded that sounds? what would’ve happened with luffy isn’t a “what-if” scenario it’s an attempt to show you how your logic makes no sense. kid losing to kaido does not prove that he’s weaker than luffy because both of them are weaker than kaido. and if you’re saying zoro is much stronger than kid then that still makes no sense since zoro did not “succeed” against an emperor nor did he take down any commanders.

          sanji didn’t train in cooking, he trained by fighting and defeating the okamas to steal their recipes, he learned haki, he learned sky walk and blue walk, he got stronger, if you want to prove that he mainly focused on cooking when there is no direct statement that he trained in cooking at all then you will need to prove this.

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 4:22 pm #

          “alright let me use your logic and maybe you will see how stupid it is. luffy lost to aokiji, kizaru, and akainu while kid never lost to any of them. therefore pre-time skip kid >>>>> luffy.”

          If you understood that from what I wrote then you’re the retard. I’m sorry bob.

          The rest of your post your just rambling bs. I’m done with this.

    • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 7:22 pm #

      Luffy with his 2 year training already defeated doffy. A schichi Ukraine that people claim to be admiral lvl.
      2 yonkou commander in one day.

      The supernova and their 2 year experience are all yonkou underlings..

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 10, 2018 at 7:23 pm #

        Schichibukai*

        • pokopikos88 - August 11, 2018 at 8:17 pm #

          @bob control

          im a little lost here but if i get it right i agree with bob on this one.
          its all plot armor.
          kid goes againt kaido and probably againt hawkins apoo at the same time.it would be hard even for gold roger.
          luffy infiltrated against big mom pirates with plan and people to watch his back and succesfully escaped. defeating 2 commanders its big thing but against kaido 1v1 is different story

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 9:51 pm #

          “kid goes againt kaido and probably againt hawkins apoo at the same time.it would be hard even for gold roger.”

          So that means kidd and gold roger are on the same level?
          Clearly not. Second place and third place are both inferior to first place but second place is still superior to third place just because they both would’ve lost doesn’t put them on the same level.

          My point is in a couple of weeks Luffy accomplished more than any supernova did in 2 years and it’s all because of his training. Don’t put him in the same level as kidd, Luffy already being called fifth emperor, you better get your story straight.

        • pokopikos88 - August 11, 2018 at 11:52 pm #

          lol no i meant that kid had a fight that even high tier/yonko characters would probably loose. i didnt compare roger to kid..obviously roger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all til now.

          and i didnt say that luffy is as strong as kid . for me luffy is way stronger than kid, at least for what we have seen til now, i just said that we underestimated kid cos of plot armor and bad match up.

        • pokopikos88 - August 11, 2018 at 11:57 pm #

          and i agree that he accomplished more than any supernova and to tell you the truth more than any character in one piece universe. its just like what law said to doflamingo on punk hazard..

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 12, 2018 at 12:51 am #

          “lol no i meant that kid had a fight that even high tier/yonko characters would probably loose. i didnt compare roger to kid..obviously roger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all til now.”

          So that’s my point. Even though Luffy would’ve also lost against Kaido, doesn’t mean Kidd and Luffy are on the same level. While Bob’s argument was that because Luffy would also lose to Kaido as Kidd did, they’re on the same level.

          And honestly I’m getting quite bored talking about the same stuff over and over again.

  12. Luffy Sama - August 10, 2018 at 6:22 pm #

    Spoiler everybody! :
    APOO finds JACK with his underwater submarine and tears him to pieces with his music ability so he get ranked up

    • Luffy Sama - August 10, 2018 at 6:24 pm #

      what a prediction! Nice job

  13. antarus - August 10, 2018 at 6:36 pm #

    caribou pirates have same jolly roger as kaidou pirates lol.

    • Luffy Sama - August 10, 2018 at 10:56 pm #

      Caribou got captured by Kaido people but still we don`t have a clue weather he is in the same cell as kid placed or he is now part of that Dinassor guy

    • Luffy Sama - August 10, 2018 at 10:57 pm #

      `s crew

      • Luffy Sama - August 10, 2018 at 11:00 pm #

        *Dinosaur

  14. Sane - August 10, 2018 at 11:04 pm #

    I don’t understand what Connie is talking about. When did Eren laugh at Sashas death? All i remember is that he his face showed remorse and disturbance at her death.

    • shadyman - August 10, 2018 at 11:47 pm #

      Well for some reason I don’t like the present look in erens eyes, it’s a lot more darker than when he was young,, this manga might end in a dark manner for the mc atleast

      • nickname - August 11, 2018 at 2:47 am #

        yh, I think this is the kind of ending Eren should have considering how his character arc has been going. even if he will reach his goals, it will come at a huge cost, not only for himself but also countless other ppl, which has been the vocal point of the last chapters.

        • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 2:14 pm #

          Yeah true but the young eren was a bit of a badass fighting a titan with his leg cutoff and shit, now he just acts and looks like a psycho!!!

  15. Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 9:26 am #

    https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/597/10

    Luffy’s training was through battle experience, he had to fight beasts stronger than himself. Beasts that could take a kong gun like it was nothing.

    https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/790/10

    Even doflamingo got sent flying by Kong gun, and people underestimate luffy’s 2 years of training.

    • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 9:59 am #

      Or Zoro’s 2 years of training through battle experience.

    • Billy - August 11, 2018 at 11:06 am #

      Finally you of all, I never imagined would get enlightened & give the right credit for Luffy / Zoro two years of training.

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 2:29 pm #

        Oh noo, Billy agreed with me, I might be wrong this time..

        • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 2:31 pm #

          Maybe u r a little wrong not entirely though

        • Billy - August 11, 2018 at 3:19 pm #

          Credit is to be given where it’s due.

    • pokopikos88 - August 11, 2018 at 8:23 pm #

      no one underestimated luffys training even after oda said it wont be another timeskip.
      BUT like always luffy grows stronger and stronger arcs after arcs. so that training means nothing from now on. luffy has to be stronger to defeat stronger enemies. luffy after his training was weaker than katakuri but got power up to surpass him, same for kaido same for blackbeard and Imu-sama till he becomes the pirate king. end of story. so no point to bring back the 2y training

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 9:55 pm #

        When comparing Luffy with other supernova who entered NW right away I think it’s pretty fair to bring up the 2 years of training. You’re clearly not just a little lost.

        • pokopikos88 - August 11, 2018 at 11:45 pm #

          the other supernova maybe aware already some important things that luffy needed to learn durring the 2years timeskip like haki. most of them are much older as well…

  16. Billy - August 11, 2018 at 11:01 am #

    Sane,

    http://www.mangaspoiler.com/2018/07/19/one-piece-912-spoiler%e3%80%8c%e3%83%af%e3%83%b3%e3%83%94%e3%83%bc%e3%82%b9-%e3%83%8d%e3%82%bf%e3%83%90%e3%83%ac%e3%80%8d-%e7%ac%ac912/comment-page-19/#comment-988502

    Firstly I am surprised to see you tagging me as a Zoro fanboy. Secondly I am not comparing the power levels here.

    My only point here is the performance of the respective characters when they saved their comrades / needy. Sanji risked his life in saving SHP’s against a fearsome opponent, failed to counter & later he failed. Zoro risked his life to save against a noteworthy opponent, countered effectively result, he succeeded.

    I know this is not a fair comparison considering Dofli >> Hawkins.

    If you consider Sanji who lost to Kalifa gained respect from reader for his chivalry whereas when he lost to Dofli he received destructive criticism because Sanji has been ridiculously shitted each & every time by the Author right after Enies Lobby. This was the reason why I addressed it to you about Sanji developments.

    • Bob - August 11, 2018 at 1:45 pm #

      zoro wasn’t trying to risk his life to save luffy from hawkins he was saving himself and he was attempting to block the attack but was too slow. so let’s not compare this to sanji intentionally not hitting kalifa

    • Bwahahaha - August 11, 2018 at 2:22 pm #

      “Sanji risked his life in saving SHP’s against a fearsome opponent, failed to counter & later he failed. ”

      As far as I know, in terms of goal, he succeeded. His goal is to save SHs not to 1up Doffy. He lost in the clash but he manage to save the crew.

      • Billy - August 11, 2018 at 3:20 pm #

        There is no doubt that, Sanji saved his crew.

    • Sane - August 11, 2018 at 10:51 pm #

      The word “fanboy” doesn’t have to have a negative connotation. I call myself a Sanji fanboy because Sanji is my favorite character.

  17. Billy - August 11, 2018 at 11:03 am #

    Uchiha Itachi,

    http://www.mangaspoiler.com/2018/07/19/one-piece-912-spoiler%e3%80%8c%e3%83%af%e3%83%b3%e3%83%94%e3%83%bc%e3%82%b9-%e3%83%8d%e3%82%bf%e3%83%90%e3%83%ac%e3%80%8d-%e7%ac%ac912/comment-page-19/#comment-988469

    My response above will answer for the part of Dofli & Hawkins, followed by Zoro’s stats when compared with Sanji’s.

  18. Billy - August 11, 2018 at 11:05 am #

    Uchiha Itachi,

    http://www.mangaspoiler.com/2018/07/19/one-piece-912-spoiler%e3%80%8c%e3%83%af%e3%83%b3%e3%83%94%e3%83%bc%e3%82%b9-%e3%83%8d%e3%82%bf%e3%83%90%e3%83%ac%e3%80%8d-%e7%ac%ac912/comment-page-19/#comment-988470

    Hawkins to the least should be capable enough to give mid-diff for Zoro or Luffy. I would be surprised if he will be fodderized by either of them.

  19. Billy - August 11, 2018 at 11:07 am #

    This Oliva or something is as good as Dumbass HEIKI & BS Bob when drawing the power levels for supernovas.

    • pokopikos88 - August 11, 2018 at 8:28 pm #

      supernovas level for me AT THE END OF STORY
      luffy
      kid
      zoro(kids fruit also counters zoro, make zoros swords hard to control)
      law
      drake
      hawkins
      urouge
      bonney
      apoo
      capone
      killer
      for now im not sure about drake law zoro power level

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 10:47 pm #

        “kids fruit also counters zoro, make zoros swords hard to control”

        That would mean Kidd>> any swordsman even Mihawk. Does that sound reasonable?

        • pokopikos88 - August 11, 2018 at 11:42 pm #

          said hard to control not impossible. for high tier swordsmen with high mastery over buso haki its possible.. counter match up doesnt mean stronger person

  20. Billy - August 11, 2018 at 11:09 am #

    Shadyman,

    You remind me one kid here by name, Onyx. Whenever certain someone praised Zoro, he would get butt hurt & reply back to downsize Zoro.

    I can you are alter image of that KIDDY. In every post I can sense your rage & hatred towards. I will be very happy to see the reaction of people like you when Zoro defeats Shogun in an epic way like never before lol.

    • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 2:12 pm #

      Haha no hatred to zoro , he’s my top 3 fab shs , but m not immature enough to be fanboy brat that I would call him strongest right now, he’s got a long way to go!!!
      And you are so fixated on zoro I bet u fap to the image of zolo chan

      • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 2:23 pm #

        “I can you are alter image of that KIDDY”
        Wtf are you talking about brat?? Talk to me when you grow up a little!

      • Billy - August 11, 2018 at 3:19 pm #

        You were in the verge of entering in ‘thrash bin’ of mine.

        Now you have officially made it.

        Not gonna spend my precious over peasant clown like you.

        • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 4:02 pm #

          Ok maybe that wasn’t nice of me to say that but you know if you trash talk me m not gonna be patient forever, regardless I couldn’t careless about Ur imaginary trash bin.
          I still think zoro is is badass now only if his hardcore fans were a bit more respectful of others opinions it would be best

  21. Billy - August 11, 2018 at 11:12 am #

    Zoro has a special place for the author, it got intensified after TS.

    Any airtime Zoro has in a battle, he has been badass endlessly. It’s only a matter of time, when Zoro will standing at the top by owning Shogun in an unprecedented manner.

    Fufufufu.

    • Bwahahaha - August 11, 2018 at 2:25 pm #

      I think there is no favoritism here. Oda has no particular favorite. Everyone have their fair share of story. It just so happened that Sanji’s story has not been so acceptable to some, while for some it’s just okay. And also, Zoro has always been badass even without favoritism. That’s just the character he is.

  22. goldroger - August 11, 2018 at 1:58 pm #

    the zoro’s fandom have been evoluting to zolo’s fandumb.
    sanji mid diff zolo

    • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 2:22 pm #

      It’s like they worship zoro man, even if you like the character you end up not appreciating the character becoz of immaturity displayed by the fanboys can’t take criticism and start hating you instead!!! Jesus the world’s gonna be a harsh place for such a brat

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 2:35 pm #

        Really I’m trying not to troll Zoro anymore but those Zorotards make it difficult for me. I was just downsizing Zoro because of Zorotards, but that would be hating on Zoro while it isn’t Zoro’s fault that his fans are such tards..

    • Kouhei - August 11, 2018 at 4:18 pm #

      Lol Sanji fans are worst. I’m still waiting for Sanji vs Katakuri

      • antarus - August 11, 2018 at 4:48 pm #

        not katakuri since he will get removed from seets liek snack because he lost and let luffy get away, but someone will replace him as sweet commander. and sanji will fight that new sweet commander in elbaf

        • antarus - August 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm #

          and based on his germa action and interest in them, it is most likely perospero

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 5:46 pm #

        There were Zorotards who claimed Katakuri would be defeated by Zoro while Zoro wasn’t even in WCI. Lol

        • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 5:57 pm #

          The thing with most Sanji fans is they are fans not tards
          And lol they are mad the tards what can I say, how cud zoro have beaten katakuri in wci is out of this world logic

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 11, 2018 at 6:33 pm #

          Yea plus with Sanji dodging Katakuri jellybean it’s kinda understandable that Sanji fans thought they would fight. Now they know Sanji didn’t stand a chance.

        • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 6:55 pm #

          True , Sanji fans at least had a reason and sensible zoro fans didnkt think he wud fight katakauri but damn these tards

  23. Kouhei - August 11, 2018 at 6:38 pm #

    Sanji lost his position in top 3 SHs for Jinbe.

    • antarus - August 11, 2018 at 6:54 pm #

      not really, zoro lost his position to sanji based on his new bounty

    • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 6:56 pm #

      Maybe , but that depends on what zoro has actually achieved so far in the new world, which is what exactly???

    • kingkaidou - August 13, 2018 at 8:40 am #

      i agree, but I think jinbei will die or something :|

  24. shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 8:54 pm #

    One punch man English scans are outttt

    • Sane - August 11, 2018 at 11:00 pm #

      Sanj is perospero/oven/daifuku lvl, and if he gets a proper matchup might ascend to Cracker lvl.

      Zoro is around Cracker lvl and might ascend to Katakuri lvl, depending on the matchup.

      Luffy is a mini step above Katakuri lvl and might ascend to low top tier lvl (yonko, admirals, dragon, mihawk etc) after this arc if he awakens his fruit, which most likely will happen.

      • Sane - August 11, 2018 at 11:01 pm #

        wrong place.

  25. Sane - August 11, 2018 at 11:01 pm #

    Sanj is perospero/oven/daifuku lvl, and if he gets a proper matchup might ascend to Cracker lvl.

    Zoro is around Cracker lvl and might ascend to Katakuri lvl, depending on the matchup.

    Luffy is a mini step above Katakuri lvl and might ascend to low top tier lvl (yonko, admirals, dragon, mihawk etc) after this arc if he awakens his fruit, which most likely will happen.

    • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 11:29 pm #

      Sanji is oven etc level without raid suit , with raid suit he will be much stronger