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One Piece 912 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第912

2018 July 19
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One Piece 912 Spoiler: The last Chapter end with Great Adventure in Wano Starting…!!! So what happens next..? find out story on One Piece 912 Spoiler Discussion 「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第912話 at Mangaspoiler.com. if you would like to discuss the Spoiler or prediction, please leave a comment below.

One Piece 912 Spoiler Summaries

Luffy tells Otama that Ace has passed away. Otama is shocked and loses her consciousness. Tengu gets mad at Luffy saying that even if it’s the truth, he shouldn’t have told her now. Tengu is a swordsmith. He too has been waiting for someone for a long time. The place they are living in right now is called Amigasa village and it used to be a normal village, but one year ago, Kaidou’s army’s headliner Drake destroyed the whole village. The only place that is flourishing in Wano right now is where Orochi is living, the flower town.

All other places were turned into a wilderness by Kaidou. 4 years ago, the Amigasa village was so poor that people were starving to death, and one pirate ship arrived. As the pirates were weakened, the people from the village, tied the pirates up and took their food away. Once everyone from the village have finished eating, one pirate was able to easily untie himself. And that pirate was Ace. He intentionally let himself tie up and shared the food with them. Once they realize that, they thank Ace, and Otama especially was attached to Ace.

Once Luffy finished hearing that story, he takes Otama to see a doctor. Tengu tells him that he will stand out like that, so he gives Luffy his own clothes. Luffy wants to take the Katana that he found in the house with him, but Tengu doesn’t allow Luffy to take it with him. The katana that Luffy tried to take was “Nidai Kitetsu”. So Luffy suggests that he will exchange this with the katana Tengu is carrying. But Tengu says the Nidai Kitetsu is cursed so he doesn’t want to touch it. Although Tengu tries to stop Luffy, he still takes the Nidai Kitetsu with him. He rides on the Komainu, and Otama wakes up. Otama accuses Luffy of being a liar and rampages.

Ace promised her that once Otama becomes a great Kunocihi, she is allowed to go out to the seas with Ace. Once they get out of the bamboo groove, it’s exactly as Tengu said, it is wilderness. Beyond the wilderness, there are several factories, and in the wilderness, there are ferocious animals fighting against each other. Luffy wants to beat the animals and eat them, but apparently those animals also have drunk from the poisoned water, so he can’t eat them. On their way, there is a bad guy chasing women, but that bad guy gets easily beaten by a swordsman. Once Luffy looks carefully, he realizes that the swordsman is Zoro. They are happy that they were able to meet again, but at that moment, Hawkins appears with his underlings.

CHAPTER END
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Color page: Mugiwara pirates playing all kinds of sports (a collaboration w/ Yomiuri Shimbun)

Luffy, Karate
Zoro, baseball
Nami, tennis
Sanji swimming
Usopp, Shooting
Chopper, boxing
Robin, horse riding
Franky, basketball
Brooke, Football

3,774 Responses to “One Piece 912 Spoiler「ワンピース ネタバレ」 第912”

  1. Sane - August 11, 2018 at 11:04 pm #

    Luffy and Zoro are most likely the strongest supernovas.

    I could see Oda making Kidd equal to Luffy but im not sure what Oda is planning with the supernovas so imma wait to see Kidd in action.

    X-drake most likely is beastly strong.

    Apoo and Hawkins should be around the same lvl. I would say it’s around the same lvl as Law.

    Law is a beast tho.

    • shadyman - August 11, 2018 at 11:31 pm #

      They all have almost same power l vel ryt now probably except for luffy with his future sight,, but you never know which supernova might be hiding ace in the hole like luffy was

    • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 12:36 am #

      true, oda said it after all, he inteded to bring only Kid. hes like the yonko rival wanna be to luffy so yeah he may be the strongest. also hes like the counterpart of shanks, same luffy to blackbeard. the rest will be the moria crocodile counterparts that lost their will and dreams

      • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 7:41 am #

        Yes also since Kidd was originally supposed to rival luffy unlike other supernovas

    • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 10:51 am #

      Since we haven’t seen Kidd fight post skip, we have to go purely off hype and portrayal, and so far I’ve seen no indication to suggest that Kidd is or ever will be Luffy level again. Oda had Luffy, Kidd, and Law as the strongest 3 supernova pre skip, so my assumption immediately out of the timeskip was that Kidd was at least as strong as Law and maybe Luffy. I think he is as strong as Law, but Law is obviously not as strong as Luffy anymore and it’s not close.

      Oda made that clear when Luffy was shown to be stronger than Law in just base form as he was capable of fighting Doffy in straight up brawling and also tanking his city of string attacks at the end. Law got manhandled in straight up fighting and he then got his arm cut off by 1 normal string. Using gears 2/3 Luffy went back and forth with Doffy, then Doffy got the upper hand, and then Luffy turned him into a ping pong ball and dominated him with Gear 4th. This is before growing drastically after fighting 11 hours vs Cracker, hours vs the enraged army, and then another 10-12 hours vs Katakuri.

      It’s not even close anymore, as Rayliegh said you grow stronger when fighting stronger opponents. Luffy has clearly left all of the supernova far behind, because he was already the strongest and he’s the only one who has been constantly fighting these difficult fights and constantly surpassing his limits to grow stronger.

      • Sane - August 12, 2018 at 11:17 am #

        The gap between Law and Luffy grew for sure.

        But as i said, im not sure what Oda intends to do with supernovas like Kidd. Does he want him to be an antagonist in the future? Well then he has to be able to tango with Luffy to some extent. Or does he simply want them to ally against a common enemy? Well then i don’t see any need for him to be at Luffys level. Maybe at Laws level or slightly stronger.

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 11:23 am #

          Kid was the he only supernova who Ida originally intended to create and give him importance, law wasn’t supposed to be this important originally, and most of the other s weren’t even sposed to exist

        • Mad not 19 any more - August 12, 2018 at 11:34 am #

          @shadyman

          source?

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 12:15 pm #

          Google it it’s legit, m on phone it’s too much trouble to look for the source

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 12:48 pm #

          https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/aminoapps.com/c/one-piece/amp/blog/oda-didnt-imagine-law-would-be-a-important-character-and-kidd-is-a-important-character/WmEZ_KDTXuL25wa1WB4g5Rm0wYr1raW4mn
          Here it is from sandman , the dude who gave us ace stories

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 12:51 pm #

          Kidd is the most important supernova, and he sure went wild in nw , losing arm and shit, not bowing down to anyone ,all that without training!!! Dude is a sureshot candidate for conquerors haki

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 1:09 pm #

          @ mad 19 look at the source now,

    • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 12:28 pm #

      It’s not most likely, it’s what it is.

      Luffy / Zoro never held back to face an Admiral. Luffy has already demonstrated he is strongest when compared with Supernovas.

      Illustrations for Zoro is been done on indirect when he confronted Fujitora & later when he buckled up to take Fuji head-on. How Zoro low diff Pica puts him over the pedestal as I can’t imagine any of the supernovas defeating golem in a low diff range.

      I feel the gap between Luffy & Zoro is minimal to none. The only distinguishing factor here will be the Haoshoku Haki which Luffy has enabling him to top Zoro as a whole.

      • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 1:38 pm #

        law beat trebol while missing an arm and in critical condition and trebol was stronger than pica, who zoro was panting and out of breath against and needed a fodder’s help to beat.

        • Sane - August 12, 2018 at 1:49 pm #

          Where was it stated that trebol is stronger than pica?

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 1:56 pm #

          it isn’t stated, but he is

        • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 2:42 pm #

          BS & CWOT

        • Sane - August 12, 2018 at 2:45 pm #

          @Bob
          Why is he that though? Anything implied that you can refer to?

        • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 2:53 pm #

          Yes it’s derived from his BS assumptions.

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 3:19 pm #

          yeah, the captain always fights the strongest, so the usual order changed when luffy and law allied.

          on punk hazard, law (captain) fought the strongest, luffy (captain) fought the second strongest, zoro (subordinate) fought the third strongest

          on dressrosa, luffy (captain) fought the strongest, law (captain) fought the second strongest, and zoro (subordinate) fought the third strongest

          furthermore it was trebol who gave doflamingo his devil fruit, trebol who is seen near doflamingo the most and trebol who was tasked with the most important job, so important in fact that usopp was given the highest “bounty” for messing this up, even higher than luffy and law.

          trebol was also the second to last to go down, before only doflamingo himself.

        • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 3:54 pm #

          Lol, what you wrote doesn’t prove shit about Trebol being stronger than Pica.

          Pica was guarding Dofli himself, from your logic, Pica should be stronger than Trebol now.

        • Sane - August 12, 2018 at 4:19 pm #

          Those points are not strong enough to claim Trebol is the strongest executive. Streusen was the one who raised Big Mom into a pirate, but doesn’t mean he is the strongest.

          Trebol is most likely weaker than Pica. Trebol displayed nothing that could show that he can defeat pica.

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 5:15 pm #

          streusen’s strength is currently unknown, though if his task is the most important it’s only because he’s the cook, not because of his combat ability. so yes, these points are strong enough to claim trebol is the strongest executive. pica not seen near doflamingo the most, pica not the one who gave him his power, pica not the one tasked with guarding sugar which was the most important job, and pica was not the one who was fighting the other captain in the allied crew when in the previous arc both luffy and law fought the strongest. pica was a squeaky voiced clown who had no important role — he’s weaker.

          pica seems to have better feats because he’s bigger, but that doesn’t matter. kaku’s attacks were of a larger scale than lucci’s and yet he was still much weaker because they were nowhere near as powerful.

          t-bone had better feats than wanze and yet wanze was still stronger because of his combat ability.

          with all the story elements I’ve listed that suggest trebol to be stronger than pica, pica has displayed nothing that could show that he can defeat trebol.

  2. Sane - August 11, 2018 at 11:06 pm #

    I was hoping Oda would keep Sanji covert post timeskip, that he would be the underground broker of the Straw Hats but hey, maybe he will still be able to like Doffy was able to.

    • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 10:38 am #

      What? Why?

      • Sane - August 12, 2018 at 11:14 am #

        Would have been cool for the Straw Hats to have a broker in the underworld. I always would have liked it to be Sanji since he used to be more under the radar. Do the Straw Hats need a broker? Probably not, but it would be a cool imo.

  3. Sane - August 11, 2018 at 11:11 pm #

    Oda has been keeping the pace really high in Wano thus far.

    We have already come across:

    The Shuusui plot
    The Ace recollection
    The Nidai Kitetsu
    A supernova

    This in just a few chapters. Usually starts of arcs are slower than this. My guess is that Oda wants to spend as many chapters as possible on the actual fight/battle/war.

    After all this is the first arc a yonko will go down.

    • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 12:21 am #

      Actually no xD
      these things exist to slow down the important things like: whats legend that has connection to whitebeard,what will happen to strawhats vs beasts pirates, the big fight vs revo is this fight or no. what will happen to marco and weevil. what about moriah??..Thats the main plot.
      the things you mention above we didnt even know before, expect the part about the sword that kinemon bring it up.
      including the fcking breaks its about 1 month and kaido doesnt even know that luffy is on the same island.

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 12, 2018 at 7:25 am #

        Not even a day has passed since Luffy have arrived on Wano.

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 12, 2018 at 7:26 am #

          Has*

        • Mad not 19 any more - August 12, 2018 at 11:53 am #

          Oda could drag that day for 50 chapters. Pacing is about real world time not one piece time lol

    • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 10:38 am #

      I agree, the pace has been pretty awesome. He’s included a bunch of really cool scenes, and some cool fights, introduced new characters and kept flashbacks being short and sweet. All while giving information and building the Wano world with hype and expectation.

    • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 12:31 pm #

      I am also under the same impression.

      If you happen re-read Dressrosa or WCI arc, there are hell out of filler elements like Rebecca, Dwarves, Colosseum fighters which should had been minimized to pick the pace & make it more interesting. In WCI too much chase & Germa snatched the awesome things.

      I hoped Wano not to have any of the filler elements which existed in Dressrosa or WCI, I sincerely wish this will continue.

  4. Bob - August 12, 2018 at 12:39 am #

    @controlminds ok dude and luffy is stronger than shanks because he’s done more in 2 weeks than shanks has. totally legit argument

    • Controlminds- no mi - August 12, 2018 at 7:00 am #

      Yea shanks is a supernova. Thumbs up 4 U

      • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 1:41 pm #

        oh I forgot this imaginary logic you invented only applies to one group of people and everyone else’s strength doesn’t depend on their spotlight. lawl

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 12, 2018 at 2:42 pm #

          No you forgot we were talking about supernovas and shanks is one of the yonkou who Luffy went into training for. Smh

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 3:15 pm #

          no it’s what I said, I forgot your imaginary logic of exposure = power only applied to one group of people instead of top tiers who would logically have more of an influence anyway, to say nothing of the fact that zoro has done nothing post time skip

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 12, 2018 at 4:01 pm #

          Yea yeah whateva bob. That’s all you ever do is to add poison to sound arguments to make your bs look better. It’s still bs.i made my point you can interpret it how you wanna.

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 5:17 pm #

          no need to add anything your argument is nonsense to begin with

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 12, 2018 at 5:23 pm #

          Coming from someone with your level of understanding that means a lot. Lol

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 5:26 pm #

          lmao even the guy who admits his english is bad called you out on your shitty comprehension

          trust me when I say everyone understands your argument, it’s just bad

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 12, 2018 at 5:41 pm #

          Lol I’ve had conversations with that same guy where he disagrees with me only to agree with me later in that same topic. Talk about shitty comprehension.
          Just because you’re unable to understand it doesn’t make it bad. That’s says something about your comprehension not about my argument.
          Plus this has nothing to do with manga anymore so from now on I’m done responding to your BS.

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 5:54 pm #

          knowing your comprehension he probably disagreed with you both times lawl

        • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 6:38 pm #

          @control bro no offense, i like to discuss about one piece and not arguing about pointless things
          so let me explain about one piece, and what i wanted to tell you.

          -luffy>kid imo= both agreed

          -imo luffy isnt stronger cos of this better training cos we dont know anything about kids power level and haki knowledge pre-timeskip, like bob said haki got better through battles and kid got super scars posttimeskip= we disagree, if i remember it was your first comment.

          -luffy > kid because of feats? we cant tell even that.
          ill give an example:
          luffy fight agianst buggy,smoker,sentomaru and got 3 wins
          Kidd fight against kaido shanks bigmom and got 3 looses
          so that means luffy>>>kid? (remember its examble) for this one early we disagreed but somehow we found out and agreed

  5. Bob - August 12, 2018 at 1:30 am #

    “While Bob’s argument was that because Luffy would also lose to Kaido as Kidd did, they’re on the same level.”

    no, that wasn’t my argument at all. it’s fine if you don’t agree with me but don’t straight up lie

    • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 2:19 am #

      no he didnt lie. he did the same to me.
      i think he cant get the point and he jump to wrong conclusions.
      he just need to read more carefully and forgive those who dont speak so good english(like me xD)

      • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 2:37 am #

        i said Kid fought kaido and probably hawkins and apoo at same time all 3 of them and i gave an example that even for gold roger is hard to take on those 3 and he gets that my point was roger=Kid
        my point was that kid due to plot armor got a bad match up and he is not that weak as it seems. luffy may accomplished more but thanks to friends , luck and match ups not for his superior and better training.
        i dont say kid is stronger than luffy i just comment how the story is..
        also we dont know anything about the training of the rest supernovas and their haki knowledge.
        Eustass kid the youngest supernova is about 4 years older than luffy, may all could use haki even before luffy learnt its existance most likely like croco jinbe kuma and moria but saved after timeskip the use of haki

        • Controlminds- no mi - August 12, 2018 at 7:08 am #

          You yourself admitted your english isn’t that good so you probably didn’t even understand my point. you’re entitled to believe what you want to so feel free.

      • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 4:05 am #

        your english was fine, he’s just a moron

    • Controlminds- no mi - August 12, 2018 at 7:18 am #

      Oh yea your point was they had kinda similar bounty pre TS because Kidd was killing innocent people so they’re still on the same level post TS, even though Luffy’s bounty is like more than 3 times Kidd’s now. Lol

      • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 1:41 pm #

        actually it wasn’t

  6. Bwahahaha - August 12, 2018 at 3:20 am #

    http://www.mangaspoiler.com/2018/07/19/one-piece-912-spoiler%e3%80%8c%e3%83%af%e3%83%b3%e3%83%94%e3%83%bc%e3%82%b9-%e3%83%8d%e3%82%bf%e3%83%90%e3%83%ac%e3%80%8d-%e7%ac%ac912/comment-page-20/#comment-988663

    Where is Jinbei now? I agree that Jinbei took Sanji’s position as Number 3 but that would only happens when Jinbei is officially on board the SHs and fight along side them. As of now, due to some unforeseen circumstances, Jinbei is still missing so that is subject for debate. @kouhei

    http://www.mangaspoiler.com/2018/07/19/one-piece-912-spoiler%e3%80%8c%e3%83%af%e3%83%b3%e3%83%94%e3%83%bc%e3%82%b9-%e3%83%8d%e3%82%bf%e3%83%90%e3%83%ac%e3%80%8d-%e7%ac%ac912/comment-page-20/#comment-988682

    @sane Your comments really are impressive as always. Probably the only person or one of the few who are unbiased on this site. Someone who believes in Logic and Fact rather than Subjective Fanboyism. At the very least you are someone who’s not making fun of any other people.

    • Big dick johnson - August 12, 2018 at 3:51 am #

      Here is my theory.

      The reason jimbei hasnt officially joined as in he isnt with the crew right now is because oda doesnt want him to be above sanji I.E the monster trio. So this means that he wont show up untill sanji surpasses jimbei. So id say later in wano or towards the end. In terms of bounty, once he comes to officially be with the SHs his bounty will only be higher than zoros and sanjis untill the new bounty posters show up.

      It could also be that oda might use jimbei as a way to lead the SHs to Elbaf.

      • Bwahahaha - August 12, 2018 at 4:23 am #

        I don’t know why Oda keeps on delaying Jinbei’s official joining on the SHs.

        • Big dick johnson - August 12, 2018 at 4:34 am #

          I think its cause of that. He wants sanji to get or surpass jimbei level. And also use him as a way for SHs to transition to the next arc.

        • kingkaidou - August 13, 2018 at 8:52 am #

          cus he ded

      • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 9:42 am #

        i thought also that jinbei will upset the balance of the crew.
        here what its said:According to Oda in a discussion with Mayumi Tanaka, Luffy’s voice actress, ‘no matter who joins, he always wants Usopp to be the weakest’ since it would upset the balance of the story.
        same for the strongest ones(monster trio) so its kinda confirmed the reason

      • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 10:34 am #

        Sanji is not going to surpass Jinbe anytime soon. Oda has delayed Jinbe joining because he’s going to form a new Monster Trio with Zoro and Sanji. But he had to allow Zoro and Sanji’s bounties to catch up, and also for them to get stronger. Keeping Jinbe out of the crew kept him at just above $400 million, while he was able to increase Zoro and Sanji into the $300 million range just below him. So now the trio is more comparable in bounty. Jinbe’s feats are still much better than Zoro or Sanji, however Sanji will get his Raid Suit and Zoro will get new Swords and Samurai techniques. This will make them comparable in strength as well. It’s not some coincidence that all of this happened just as Luffy’s strength was drastically boosted after constant tough fights against Doffy, Cracker, the enraged army, and Katakuri. And then his bounty leap frogged to $1.5 Billion. Oda was creating a gap between him and these 3 because Luffy is now the 5th Emperor and just like all the other Emperors he will have a Monster Trio of his own.

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 1:44 pm #

          “Jinbe’s feats are still much better than Zoro”

          No, they aren’t.

    • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 4:04 am #

      he’s definitely not unbiased and is a fanboy, but he is right about zoro fanboys being consistently biased toward the character

    • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 10:24 am #

      Why is this still a question? Jinbe is in the crew and he’s coming to Wano. Luffy ordered him to do so, and so Jinbe will be there. Also Oda literally just confirmed this recently in an interview saying the only reason why he hasn’t drawn Jinbe in the color pages since then is because he has changed something about Jinbe and he doesn’t want to spoil it.

      • Bwahahaha - August 12, 2018 at 10:56 am #

        “Why is this still a question?”

        Well, there’s nothing wrong with asking. First, Jinbei was invited on FI. He refused because he has something to take care of. WCI. Jinbei already cut ties with BM and declared Luffy as his captain. By the time I thought everything will be okay. But then again, SHS are in pinch so Jinbei has to stay and let the crew move forward. Still no Jinbei as of now.

        “Jinbe is in the crew and he’s coming to Wano. Luffy ordered him to do so, and so Jinbe will be there.”

        That’s easy to say. But what are the chances of Jinbei et. al. in surviving BM? What are the plot armor that Oda has in order for them to survive?

        Who would help them?
        1. Revos?
        2. Germa Secret Weapon? (Zord type of weapon like what Antarus says)
        3. After effect of Sanji’s cake? (Haters will laugh at me.)
        4. Whale Sharks?

        Or could Jinbei reach Wano as BM’s hostage since the discussion of BM and Kaido seemed like BM will head to Wano to hunt Luffy?

        • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 1:32 pm #

          Like I said, Oda has already spoiled and confirmed that Jinbe survived and will be in Wano. How that will happen, we’ll just have to wait and see. But

          If I had to take a guess, I’d agree that it’s possible that Jinbe is a hostage of Big Mom to lure Luffy out. But I don’t think Big Mom will actually make it into Wano at all. It’s also possible that Jinbe was turned into a homie and will need to be freed. However it’s also possible that Jinbe and the Sun Pirates simply swam away and escaped with some injuries. Don’t forget that they are fishman and so not only is their powers amplified but also no one in Big Mom’s crew could keep up with them if they simply dived into the depths. Not even Big Mom could do anything about that. They would only need to take care of Oven who has massive water attacks, but Aladine was shown being able to hold off Oven solo, so that wouldn’t be a problem.

    • Sane - August 12, 2018 at 10:38 am #

      Thanks dude.

    • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 12:32 pm #

      There’s Nick & Wickbert in the list. Even Maddy too.

      • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 1:48 pm #

        all three of them are biased fanboys who dismiss facts in arguments lawl

        • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 2:43 pm #

          BS.

          They have FUCKED your case very badly & you are still tending to your wounds. You were cornered & defended yourself as a troll to save your punched face.

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 3:14 pm #

          that’s an interesting perception of reality you’ve got there

        • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 3:55 pm #

          It happened for real back in the past. You were proven wrong by Wickbert, later you came up as trolling.

  7. kizaruuu - August 12, 2018 at 8:46 am #

    Let’s say the straw hats will face off Big Mom again
    Who will have to fight against Katakuri? He is after all, the strongest son among the siblings..
    There is no decent swordsman in her crew who would be able to face Zoro IMO that’s why matchup wise it won’t make sense for the Straw hats to face her again

    • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 10:21 am #

      Oda isn’t going to re-use an arc boss in another arc fighting the Strawhats, they only come back as allies or having small roles. So no one is going to fight Katakuri because he won’t be in Elbaf at all. Plot wise someone has to stay behind to protect Totto Land and be in charge while Big Mom leaves. Katakuri and Cracker will stay behind.

      Also the whole idea of the Zoro’s opponents having to be the swordsman went out the window after they gained haki. Anyone with haki can fight a swordsman and Zoro can likewise have an opponent that is not a Swordsman if they have haki. However in this case I do expect Zoro will fight Smoothie on Elbaf.

      • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 1:50 pm #

        “Also the whole idea of the Zoro’s opponents having to be the swordsman went out the window after they gained haki.”

        No it didn’t. Zoro wants to be the world’s strongest swordsman, so he will continue fighting swordsmen. Hyouzou and Pica, both swordsmen, both post time skip.

        “Anyone with haki can fight a swordsman and Zoro can likewise have an opponent that is not a Swordsman if they have haki.”

        So can anyone without haki. Zoro didn’t fight swordsmen because he was the only one who could, he fought them because they’re related to his dream.

    • antarus - August 12, 2018 at 12:00 pm #

      None.

      think at it this way.

      katakuri in elbaf will eb the new pekoms, or the new bellamy. he will he half ally half enemy, so to speak.

      none will fight him. BM will own him for befriend ing luffy and luffy will step in to save him

    • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 2:44 pm #

      I am doubtful that Katakuri will face anyone as an opponent when he is supporting Luffy on inside.

      If at all Zoro faces Katakuri then too lame IMO.

  8. pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 9:55 am #

    guys, really believe that sanji will get his power up by wearing that suit? only in a comedy way i can see this comming…

    • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 10:02 am #

      You really don’t ? kinda strange !any normal sense of logic says he would

    • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 10:15 am #

      Dude, what? Of course it’s an upgrade, Oda literally made a chapter(898) specifically just to show that Raid Suit powers would upgrade Sanji. He’s the only Strawhat without a weapon and now he’ll finally get his.

      • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 10:29 am #

        also he claims that he doesnt want his power comes from this suit.
        dont know, we ll see

        • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 10:35 am #

          That’s just plot so that Sanji will refuse to use it until he is forced to do so. The Strawhat crew ALWAYS chooses to do things they may not want to do if it’s for the sake of becoming stronger for their captain.

  9. Mad19 - August 12, 2018 at 10:56 am #

    In a few weeks Luffy has achieved more things than Kidd did in 2 years. Not that this alone is proof that he’s stronger, but i saw some discussions here and there comparing the performance of the two so far in the new world.

    • Mad19 - August 12, 2018 at 10:59 am #

      Actually there’s no proof that Luffy and ofc Zoro are stronger than the supernovas except Law, however that would be an educated guess to make. If Luffy and Kidd were pretty much on the same page before the timeskip and so they stayed after it, Oda would have separated the SHs for nothing. That would be awful story telling on his part.

    • Mad19 - August 12, 2018 at 11:03 am #

      Moreover, Law’s improvement over the timeskip should be somewhat indicative of Kidd’s progress as well. Kidd may have progressed a bit mpre because he jumped straingth into the action while Law was waiting patiently for his chance, but even so, the difference between Kidd and Law shouldn’t be as massive as the one between Luffy and Law.

    • Mad19 - August 12, 2018 at 11:05 am #

      My post was originally meant to be in one piece however there is a problem with my phone apparently which prevents me from writing long posts in one comment.

    • Mad19 - August 12, 2018 at 11:10 am #

      *more
      **straight

    • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 12:33 pm #

      No Supernovas are in the league of Luffy / Zoro.

      • Mad19 - August 12, 2018 at 1:00 pm #

        That’s what i think too.

      • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 6:53 pm #

        imo ill wait and see what Kidd can do. if its the rival yonko wanna be of luffy then he is also in the same league. or he may end up like crocodile when fought whitebeard or when moria fought kaido.

    • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 1:54 pm #

      and Zoro hasn’t done anything in these few weeks. there is no evidence that zoro is stronger than law.

      luffy trained for 2 years so that he could be ready for the new world as soon as he entered. kid was not ready as soon as he entered which is why he’s missing an arm and was defeated a year ago by big mom’s crew, but he had to get stronger to survive. that’s not bad writing, luffy wanted to be ready for the new world as soon as he entered so he didn’t have to worry about losing his friends.

      • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 2:46 pm #

        Zoro trained himself to support his captain’s objectives which in prime is to save the crew.

        Get real by coming out of your fantasized world.

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

          “Zoro trained himself to support his captain’s objectives which in prime is to save the crew.”

          when did I say otherwise?

        • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 3:57 pm #

          That’s where the real deal is about. Luffy & Zoro have grown strong together than any other supernovas.

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 4:40 pm #

          “Luffy & Zoro have grown strong together than any other supernovas.”
          While luffy has surpassed other supernovas in terms of accomplishment s , what has zoro done exactly for you to put him up in the Same pedestal apart from Ur fantasies exactly??? Nothing

        • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 4:47 pm #

          You’re not worth of my time.

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 4:54 pm #

          U r truly an idiot

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 5:19 pm #

          “That’s where the real deal is about. Luffy & Zoro have grown strong together than any other supernovas.”

          proof?

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 6:45 pm #

          Don’t expect proofs from the mentally retarded @ bob

      • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 6:44 pm #

        as zoro fan i strongly believe zoro is stronger than law. law is just tricky to beat cos of his devil fruit.
        but if we talk about facts then yes ill agree with you that we dont have evidence that zoro is stronger.
        if we talk about feats then law seem stronger but also that isnt 100% true like i said to @controlmindsnomi above

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 7:07 pm #

          But devil fruits are a part of one’s power, saying they aren’t is like saying zoro can’t do shit without swords

        • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 8:51 pm #

          no i said hes tricky to beat him, it will take hours. especialy for a straight forward fighter like zoro its hard. he has to see how ope ope work out like he did with pica,same if he battles hawkins ecc. i didnt say zoro is stronger law if law didnt have this fruit. obviously devil fruit is his weapon

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 9:03 pm #

          First of all it goes for almost every other ability user that you have to understand their powers in order to defeat him/her not just law , almost every accomplished devil fruit user is tricky cos they evolve their strength wrt df( mingo pica trebol and that’s just from dressrosa) , that’s why zoro and Sanji lost their short duels with lingo /hawkins so easily despite having considerable strength
          another thing is zoro is a fighting genius and a he’ll lot smarter when it comes to battles than you give him credit for so law would be as tricky for zoro as he would be for Sanji in combat , in fact zoro is pretty smart when it comes to trusting / testing people and battles , he’s straightforward in other things like directions for one and sometimes solving hidden puzzles like 3d2y but if it’s battle he is as good as anybody in figuring out the enemy’s powers
          And if zoro is gonna be pk s right hand man he has to be strong not just against straightforward brawlers and swordsman and Doan but against anyone and everyone, his main goal now isn’t world’s strongest swordsman, his main goal is that of his captains

    • Sane - August 12, 2018 at 1:58 pm #

      I think Oda could pop up incidents that happened during the timeskip that we dont know of yet. For example the payback war. Jimbei didnt mention it in FI but mentioned it in Zou.

      We might find out that some supernovas did bih things during the timeskip.

      • Controlminds- no mi - August 12, 2018 at 3:04 pm #

        Doesn’t matter how big of a thing they did,it isn’t bigger than what Luffy has done up untill now, otherwise the bounties would speak for themselves.

        • Sane - August 12, 2018 at 3:13 pm #

          Thats true, i am simply refering to incidents that will boost strength, such as fights. Luffy did more than just fight to get his bounty up. He was involved in an assassination plot and did much damage to a yonko territory/subordinates. He also defeated a warlord who has ties to the goverment and the yonko. So ofc his notoriety is greater.

          But Kidd and the other supernovas could have definitely defeated commanders/underlings of yonkos and powered up from such fights. Like Mad Monk recently did.

        • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 6:59 pm #

          i kinda agree but bounty doesnt matter. considering bounty=feats, luffys bounty would be over 500 pre timeskip

      • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 7:02 pm #

        thats what i was talking about pace that you mention ;) may pop up interesting things but the main story will slow down a bit

    • Doflamingo - August 12, 2018 at 6:14 pm #

      That’s just the baggage that comes with main character. Luffy has as much info on raftel as BM or Kaido (if not, more) and they’ve been there for over 20 years.

  10. antarus - August 12, 2018 at 12:02 pm #

    about katakuri

    if bm pirates return in elbaf as villains, katakuri won’t be villain anym,ore. he will be the new pekoms, oe bellamy.

    bm will kick his as and luffy will step in to defend him.

    there will ne new sweet commanders.

    zoro will take on swordman smoothie

    jimbe takes new sweet commander oven

    sanki takes on new sweet commander Perospero

    • antarus - August 12, 2018 at 12:06 pm #

      cracker will be new comedy villain. he will ru naway when he sees luffy and neevre return

    • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 12:34 pm #

      I wished Zoro vs Katakuri. Zoro will stomp that second commander whose name I don’t even remember.

    • kizaruuu - August 12, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

      I don’t see any meaning in the straw hats fighting against BM pirates
      They will defeating the beast pirates this arc which will let them evolve into Yonkou crew level therefore as an example Zoro vs Smoothie would just be a step back since he will most likely defeat the Shogun who is expected to be at least yonkou 1st mate level
      Hence Luffy will just deal with Big Mom without her crew being involved

      • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

        I think so too luffy might b eat bm individually

      • goldroger - August 12, 2018 at 2:24 pm #

        what you said ‘they’ here is an alliance.not strawhats.so they are not yonko crew level.even if they are yonko crew.all yonko crew are equal and on the deadlock.so even after “they” defeating beast pirates,it will be still matter.

      • antarus - August 12, 2018 at 2:44 pm #

        kaidou is more about the supernovas takeing down kaidou.

        big mom will be more about Straw hats alone taking down a yonkou. and unlike kaidou where luffy will get law and kid, he will solo bm

      • antarus - August 12, 2018 at 2:45 pm #

        shogun strength expectations are jus tthat

      • Billy - August 12, 2018 at 3:19 pm #

        Shogun strength should compete with Yonkou given the hype about Wano military force.

      • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 3:45 pm #

        …I guess we have no info yet, so everyone is entitled to their own guesses about the Shogun’s strength. However I find it particularly interesting how some people’s estimation of his strength keeps going up for no reason. At the end of Dressrosa when Luffy defeated Doflamingo, some people declared that the Shogun was for sure as strong as Doflamingo. During Zoue when people thought Luffy would fight Jack at the end of that arc, people said the Shogun was definitely as strong as Jack. Now after Luffy defeats Katakuri, some are saying the Shogun is definitely at least 1st mate level. And even beyond that some are even saying he’s Yonko level…

        …?

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 5:20 pm #

          it’s mostly just zoro fanboys

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 7:08 pm #

          No way shogun is Yonkou level, commander level for sure maybe even frst mate but Yonkou is just a fantasy of zolotards

    • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 3:36 pm #

      Snack lost his position because Cracker easily beat Urouge, so that means Big Mom probably decided that Snack was just too weak. But if the enemy is so strong that Big Mom herself is necessary to defeat them, then you can’t fault the Sweet Commanders for losing. And so demoting Cracker and Katakuri for losing to Luffy, who is now called “the 5th Emperor” would be pointless and stupid, and probably also harm the moral of your army.

      However if there was new Sweet Commanders, I would expect it would be chosen from among Perospero, Compote(the 1st Daughter), Oven, Dai. Since all 4 were called monsters alongside the Sweet Commanders.

      • antarus - August 12, 2018 at 5:27 pm #

        they both lost to the same guy and allowed him to escape. And the moral was already afected in totland end.

        everyone used ot think katakru iis perfect yet based on flambe, he was shown hsi flaws and don’t hold him highly anymore.

        they will still be part of the army and strong force, but they have to keep the sweets undefeated for the image. or else now that all yonkous know they got defeated before, even more by same guy, they will Always got for bm lands and attack

  11. antarus - August 12, 2018 at 2:45 pm #

    smoothie vs zoro could be interesting since every slash can suck the liquid out of someone.

    • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 3:26 pm #

      It will be interesting for sure, and I’m sure there is a lot more to her ability as is always the case.

    • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 4:56 pm #

      Zoro will lose another sword and maybe his life if he fights smoothie the way he is right now being the weakest supernova and all, he needs to grow stronger in order to fight commander level when all he’s done is beat an underling of a schibukai who was weaker than the third sweet commander

      • antarus - August 12, 2018 at 5:29 pm #

        now I’m convinced that smoothie> shogun.

        • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 5:40 pm #

          Smoothie > shogun >/=zolol

  12. antarus - August 12, 2018 at 3:12 pm #

    dragon tattoo and hair is similat to guys from Wiper’s tribe.

    • antarus - August 12, 2018 at 3:13 pm #

      or red hair one from norland

    • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 3:25 pm #

      I wonder if Oda will keep that a mystery forever or actually tell us what that tattoo is for? …I feel like back then he just did it to make Dragon look cool, but it will probably end up having to do with Luffy’s mother.

      • antarus - August 12, 2018 at 5:30 pm #

        in the anime, dragon doesn’t have the tattoo in roger execution flashback. so he got it from oen of his adventures…

  13. antarus - August 12, 2018 at 5:51 pm #

    anyway, so far wano is wasteland with spring theme in flower country.

    but kaido, drake, and cyborg guy were on winter island after dressrosa.

    so is that part of wano or another island?

    final battle seems to be there if it’s kaidou’s favorite place. final battle witll have winter theme. I wonder if it’s reference to something. maybe there is mountain where is winter theme in wano. where luffy will ahve to climb

  14. antarus - August 12, 2018 at 5:56 pm #

    and found it!

    in the fiest picture that shows the big picrure of wano you can see tall mountai nwith snow on top. that is likely the lication of kaidou

  15. antarus - August 12, 2018 at 6:04 pm #

    Lol wait for luffy climbing the mountain to get to kaidou.

    you think climbing the dressrosa castle to get to doflamingo so they can get kicked out and have to climb again was long?

    wait for this

  16. antarus - August 12, 2018 at 6:23 pm #

    people used to think marco will show up to help luffy in wano.

    as i said before, theory was unlikely. he has to saty behind and defend from weevil and only send massage to luffy.

    so the bird from momotar ustory is someone else. if even bird and not bird hair KIdd

  17. antarus - August 12, 2018 at 6:25 pm #

    kiji bird zoan ninja. could also be the bird from momotaru story

    • Doflamingo - August 12, 2018 at 7:01 pm #

      Aokiji is also a kiji.

  18. antarus - August 12, 2018 at 6:28 pm #

    in case you don’t know yet, this is the momotaru story momonosuke is inspired from and will likely the the theme in wano

    https://newsok.com/article/2479513/momotaro-peach-boy

  19. antarus - August 12, 2018 at 6:32 pm #

    reading the story, with how monkey, dog, bird were enemies at first and they fight eachother before they allis. it sounds just like the supernovas.

    so monkey is luffy, bird is kid, dog is law.

  20. Doflamingo - August 12, 2018 at 7:00 pm #

    DRAGONS will also appear in Wano. Notice this tree in the intro page for the country:

    https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/one-piece-2/en/0/909/page/9

    It has the shape of a typical bonsai type tree but it could also be depicting an asian style dragon. This is especially true if you look at it in the smaller image on the right side.

    We know Ryuma slayed a dragon, Momo has fake dragon fruit. We’ve seen lots of different creatures be introduced it could be possible that Dragons retreated due to the pollution created by the factory and haven’t been seen for years. Maybe they will show up at the end of the arc by then the pollution will be cleared. They are a symbol of luck and most likely very rare so I don’t think anyone would be killing one although it is very possible.

    The lady playing the shamisen? will be very important too. She seems to possess CoO.

    • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 7:05 pm #

      also :Orochi means Snake or Serpent in Japanese. Yamata no Orochi (Eight headed Serpent) is the name of a legendary Japanese dragon with eight heads and eight tails. maybe its this

      • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 7:06 pm #

        i mean hes the shogun orochi kurozumi

    • nickname - August 12, 2018 at 7:22 pm #

      like @poko explained above, after learning the shogun’s name I think he’s the one who has the dragon zoan and most likely an eastern version considering his name and the whole set up of the arc.

      Kaido might also have some dragons similar to the one PH under his control, since he’s obsessed with zoans and beasts.

      • Doflamingo - August 12, 2018 at 7:40 pm #

        Where was the shogun’s name mentioned?

        • nickname - August 12, 2018 at 7:51 pm #

          https://readms.net/r/one_piece/909/5187/13
          right here

        • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 7:54 pm #

          in the manga

        • Doflamingo - August 12, 2018 at 7:54 pm #

          Oh that’s right…. I remember thinking of orochimaru when I read that lol. However I thought he would have another model of the hebi hebi.

        • nickname - August 12, 2018 at 8:02 pm #

          he definetely might, but since eastern dragons have similar designs to snakes I figured it’d fit as well

    • Sane - August 12, 2018 at 9:08 pm #

      Kin’emon showed a lot of grudge against the Dragon in Punk Hazard. That must have been because of some traumatic incident previously in Wano with some Dragon. This Dragon must have something to do with Kaido and his crew ofc.

      • shadyman - August 12, 2018 at 9:15 pm #

        Not just kinemon, even mono hated his Dragon form

  21. Doflamingo - August 12, 2018 at 7:26 pm #

    Luffy’s viver card could be with the octopus. Maybe the octopus took it on purpose so that the SH could find him later.

  22. nickname - August 12, 2018 at 7:50 pm #

    just wondering, what kind of abilities do you expect Kaido, Shogun and his top commanders to have? zoan DFs seem most likely but Oda could easily throw in other kind of DFs or ofc non fruit users, who knows.

    my guess:
    Kaido – Hito Hito No Mi: Model Devil/Demon (opposite of Sengoku)
    Shogun – Eastern Dragon Zoan DF
    King calamity: Gryphon Zoan
    Queen calamity: either a (female) fishman or some kind of snake zoan

    reasoning for the other calamities: I still like the idea of the calamities being based on the 3 beasts of the jewish mythology: behemoth, leviathan and ziz.
    Jack’s mammoth is already similar to behemoth and its theme of earth fits Jack being refered to as “drought”.
    Ziz is the beast of the sky, so I think a gryphon would be a cool fit and the designs of gryphons and Ziz also have similarities.
    Leviathan could also be represented by the shogun’s eastern dragon zoan because sea beast DFs don’t make much sense, so that’s where I’m the least sure by far.

    • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 8:01 pm #

      there’s an axolotl devil fruit for some reason

    • Bob - August 12, 2018 at 8:03 pm #

      I think king might have a pterodactyl ancient zoan

    • antarus - August 12, 2018 at 8:44 pm #

      kaidou – momonosuke’s original

      jack- Mammoth

      king- long neck dinosaur

      queen- triceratops

      shogun: fox tail or serpent with 9 heads and sword in each one

    • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 8:45 pm #

      if we consider that Oda gives to strong people/commanders lame fruits like mochi candy biscuits .. i think calamities are after ice age xD
      3rd commander jack-mammoth/manny
      2nd commander-sabertooth zoan/diego
      1st commander-megalonyx zoan/Sid
      *ice age 3 also has a t-rex(drake) xD

      and kaido i think it has a special zoan that can turn his body parts into different part of animals.
      while luffy name his attacks like kong/snake/leo, kaido can turn his arm into kongs into snake ecc

      • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 9:09 pm #

        if Orochi is indeed swordsman the only fruit that i can think of its one that gives him extra swords. but dont you think its boring already?
        hyozu hatchi kaku onigumo cracker.
        zoro has to fight a swordsman that has 2 swords now if he indeed fight shogun

    • Sane - August 12, 2018 at 9:16 pm #

      Kaido – i agree

      Shogun – either Shogun has it or someone from Kaidos crew

      King – i believe he has a carnivorous ancient/mythical zoan. Chopper mentioned that carnivorous zoans are the most violent. I also believe that will fit Kaidos right hand man. A vicious ancient/mythical zoan.

      Queen – im not to hyped about a snake zoan, ever since Luffy beat the boa sisters. I could imagine some flying zoan tho.

      • pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 9:29 pm #

        drake has the best, what better than a t-rex zoan? most carnivorous animal

    • GomoGomoNo - August 12, 2018 at 10:12 pm #

      Kaido – Snake DF, Model: Dragon God. Chinese/Japanese style “snake” Dragon. He has Dragon Scales and the body of a Dragon God even while in human form. This is why it’s so difficult to hurt him and why even he himself can’t figure out how to die. He can also fly, he has enhanced senses, and water control.

      King – Barbarian King recruited by Kaido after Kaido defeated him. But Kaido wants all of his commanders to be “beast” so he gave King a DF that is some mythical Japanese creature.

      Queen – Fishwoman who married the Barbarian King. Legendary practitioner of fishman Karate. No DF but being a fishwoman counts as a “beast”.

      Jack – He is the son of King and Queen, making him half fishman. Kaido gave him the Ancient Mammoth DF.

      Shogun – Orochi is a legendary 8 headed snake in Japanese mythology, so that’s most likely his DF.

    • Wickbert - August 13, 2018 at 2:05 am #

      Kaido – chimera fruit (special zoan): allows the fruit user to mutate their parts of their body into different animal limbs (for example: turtle torso, owl head, cheater legs and bear claws) this is the most suitable for the strongest zoan fruit theory, also if kaidou was a dragon fruit user then surely the
      navy would called him “kaido the dragon” instead of “kaidou the beast”
      Shogun orochi – dragon fruit model hydra: i just cant imagine oda calling a guy orochi then making him a literal orochi but a serpent devils fruit that grants the user a few extra heads would not be out of the question. After punk hazard zoro has been foreshadowed to fight a dragon user, and since im one of the “zoro will fight the shogun” subscribers it all fits nicely.
      King – neko neko no mi model lion: king of the beast pirates, i mean come on its in, odas been dancing around the lion fruit for years and considering the yonkou were some of the first villains he designed then there are enough puzzle pieces to spin a conspiracy. I just really hope king and queen do exist for this 1 platant pun
      Queen – tori tori no mi model swan: did you know queen Elizabeth II owns all the swans in england? Its a water animal with a long leviathan like neck. They are rather feminine and elegant animals that are fit for a queen and if you are like me and have ever tried to drunkenly fight one then you understand just how dangerous those mother fuckers really are.
      Jack – half tiger shark fishman: i just googled shark species and this seems appropriate to me, literally no basis for this

      • nickname - August 13, 2018 at 7:38 am #

        I really like those ideas as well, especially the ones for the shogun (Zoro’s santoryu vs a 3 headed swordsman fits so nicely) and king (lion zoan really is overdue).

        Chimera was actually one of my fav theories back when we only had Kaido’s title, so definetely can see this one too.

        didn’t know the queen owned all the swans in gb but I had a run in with one of those as a kid and yup those fuckers are dangerous lol. It might be a bit too “elegant” to fit the theme of Kaido’s crew even if it fits the queen title.

  23. pokopikos88 - August 12, 2018 at 9:30 pm #

    drake has the best, what better than a t-rex zoan? most carnivorouss animal

  24. shadyman - August 13, 2018 at 1:31 am #

    So any of you guys reading kingdom,,,,, have yall read the actual history ,how it takes place???

    • Wickbert - August 13, 2018 at 2:07 am #

      Roughly, it does not go well in chu.

      • Titus - August 13, 2018 at 3:00 am #

        you guys think kingdom could use a section here?

        • Lawliet - August 13, 2018 at 8:30 am #

          We had Kingdom sections a couple of times, it wasn’t active.

        • shadyman - August 13, 2018 at 10:08 am #

          Yes kingdom section bring it back, kingdom is quite popular these days and rightly so
          !!!
          And history spoilers coming so read at your own risk
          Yeah the chu thing man I don’t get why shoheikun would betray shin??? And qin and. Sri? And ten???

        • Titus - August 13, 2018 at 1:34 pm #

          hara actually made a one-shot about the chu incident

          when it came time to conquer chu he just couldn’t betray his chu blood

        • shadyman - August 13, 2018 at 2:21 pm #

          It’s a shame , for someone like shouheikun

        • Titus - August 13, 2018 at 3:38 pm #

          have you read on what war is meant to come after this current one?

        • shadyman - August 13, 2018 at 4:32 pm #

          Kingdom spoilers historical beware

          They won’t be able to completely destroy Zhao and next campaign kanki vs riboku ,might have some minor thing here and there before that but major war should be kanji vs riboku

        • shadyman - August 13, 2018 at 4:35 pm #

          Historucal kingdom spoilers

          The thing is with shouheikun betrayal , what he does directly results in shins 7,8 commanders gtng killed, mouten and shin narrowly escape and ousen gets an army of 600000 and moubu will be like vice General against chu

        • shadyman - August 13, 2018 at 4:36 pm #

          Earlier sei asked ousen how many men he needs to beat chu and when he says 600000 sei ddnt trust him with such army and shin says he cud do the job with 200000

        • shadyman - August 13, 2018 at 4:38 pm #

          Shouheikun creates rebellion in one of the cities shin conquers in chi alongside mouten and then he gets trapped between chu and shoehikun

        • Titus - August 13, 2018 at 5:26 pm #

          history spoilers

          the next battle in 235 b.c. is actually an allied qin/wei war against chu. the kan ki and ri boku stuff doesn’t happen until after.

        • Titus - August 13, 2018 at 5:30 pm #

          and they never intended to completely destroy zhao in this war anyways.

        • shadyman - August 13, 2018 at 6:39 pm #

          That is true about zhao, but we I/qin thing I had no idea of

        • Titus - August 13, 2018 at 10:21 pm #

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_You_of_Chu

  25. Big dick johnson - August 13, 2018 at 6:17 am #

    I would really like to see more NW pirates like Cavendish. Pirates who were making a name for themselves in NW before worst get. Pirates whose bounty range from 400-800 mill. And it would be awesomr for SHs or Kidd to fight them and beat them